File in U.N General Assembly that admits HAARP can manipulate weather and act as a Nuclear Weapon.

Those peculiar cloud formations... from the previous duplicate thread that was closed...

Iv'e seen them before, on a 2010 flight, so I've seen them from the top... actually, just above the cloud level... it went as far as my eye can see up to the horizon!!!

I knew that the plane was going north generally, and it seems we were flying along the "grain" of the clouds, so I thought the pattern followed an north-south direction (I could be wrong on the orientation). This went all the way up to a few minutes before landing, and we had to go around in circles for some reason (congestion due to holidays?), so at some point we went across through the grain, and that's when you really see the beauty of it. Strange but beautiful. All the way to the horizon.

My first time to see such a cloud formation.

Seems like each lump is a couple of plane lengths thick, but since I'm not good at judging plane speed I could be wrong on this one too.

I hope I knew, then we could estimate the frequency... maybe we assume it's a standing wave? So do we compute the frequency as c over wavelength (thickness of a couple of cloud "strands")?

I don't know, just throwing out some ideas...

reply to post by XtraTL


Ah, but we should never let the truth get in the way of a good scary conspiracy

Actually, there may be theoretical ways in which HAARP, were it much, much, much stronger, might just conceivably be able to affect pressure patterns and thus indirectly cause warmer/colder/drier/wetter seasons. But don't tell anyone!

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What's peculiar about altostratus undulatus?

It's been around for billions of years.

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Michiko says type 2 Alien Species:

Type 1 aliens he says can control weather, volcanoes, just short of calling them immortal and they mine the oceans, than he goes further and says type 2 are immortal. Now why if they are immortal would they need to live in the physical? The ones that are immortal would not have the need for the physical world except to control it for mortals, to keep everything in balance for the mortals survival. To me this kind of ideas I find very flawed. I wish I could talk with him to ask him what I have just stated. I would really like to hear what he would have to say.

There is a physicality in each density. Theres 12 overall. Just that each density is spiritually different. Most E.T groups can live to 1000 to 2000 years on average. They are healed races. Certain races*

Didnt HAARP activity pick up a few days after X37 space craft was launched on March 5th, which also coincided with the Earthquake in Japan?

Wasnt it a movie called Conspiracy Theory, where the guy claimed that major earthquakes happened right after space shuttle launches

If HAARP can cause earth quakes or mass destruction then..it's a weapon of mass destruction and should be destroyed.

If you go to war because other countries SUPPOSEDLY have weapons of mass destruction then what do you do with a county that really has a weapon of mass destruction?

I don't care what you say you're using it for it's a weapon of mass destruction and should be destroyed period.

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The ability of HAARP as a weapon of mass destruction pales into insignificance compared with the humble table fork. But if you really want to worry, what about the Television? Or, far worse, the Internet?

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Yeah because the tv an internet are going to cause disasters!

Are you serious?

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Because TV and the Internet command people's attention and determine what they believe. They are the new prophets, the creators of religion. This thread proves it.

That is very worrying.

We are but a step away from torch bearing mobs storming the science labs, 2 steps away from a new Dark Age.

I'm pretty sure that weather modification is real and that haarp is behind many cataclysms that have occurred that last decades. The only thing is that it defies our current knowledge on physics. But that doesn't mean to me it isn't real. It just means it is beyond my current understanding.

Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by smurfy

 

(This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated)

Search that page then,

I think there is a link there to all of the interview in segments, cheers.

This is one segment,

www.youtube.com...

One quick observation. HAARP is heavily associated with NAVY/ ARMY interests, and as a result, what makes you think that anything being touted on the official site (as regards the capabilities of the hardware) is in fact true?

The public website, PR announcements and 'sponsored/ approved' mass-target audience articles & studies, are quite likely to be part of a sanitised, 'maintain our national-security advantage' plot - a simple argumentum ad captandum...

Why tell anyone the true capability of your most powerful weapons? That would be, quite simply, poor military strategy.

Better - if you want to maintain a position at the top of the international food chain - that you be ambiguous; allow the conspiracies to grow to a certain level, then start playing with your new toy, now that the conditions are right - saturated with suspicion and fears, kickstarting a global intimidation campaign (involving the actual destruction of unstable tectonic regions...)

Wonder whether that interesting 'jetstream blocking event' last year, causing fire in Moscow and floods in Pakistan, might have been an introductory parlor trick, designed to get the attention of those in the know at the top of each power cabal...

Moving on - to the earthquakes... Where better to test your ULF seismic hammer than upon known unstable regions, where energetic events have recently occurred. Recent seismic incidents would have led to careful analysis being conducted, generating data on the lingering stress levels in the plates.

A relatively simple set of calculations would be all that is required if one were to correctly modulate the frequencies, thereby triggering the next seismic event.

Hence in Christchurch; the most devastating quake originated nearer the crust than the (higher magnitude, natural) quake from the year before. NB - modulated waves come in from the atmosphere, hence manmade seismic effects - at least at this stage in the development of the tech - would initiate closer to the surface than true, deep tectonic activities.) Similarly, Japan has always suffered at the hands of their geological environment, and in terms of their social-economic relationship with the West are in effect, a 'Westernised Far-Eastern' nation, and I believe they may have been held up as an example of what can be done to even a very well-prepared and seismically aware nation, using HAARP and similar facilities as weapons of mass destruction..

Psychologically devastating to the general population, the economy etc, such HAARP-powered ULF-induced quakes/ weather manipulation would be utterly terror-inducing for the people at the top of the power structure in the victim nation. It is likely that the power-brokers would be aware that they had been targeted - and yet would remain unable to overtly reveal or insist that they know this, lest they risk international ridicule and condemnation for inflammatory accusations...

Talk about demonstrations of power - if these events are indeed what I suspect them to be, then this is a serious move by the US (or the shadow state operating behind the US cover) to cement a position of authority in a Dog-Eat-Dog Superpower Chess Match.

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You are incorrect. If the science is as corrupt as the government/ mega-corporations, and works for the government/ mega-corporations, then nobody is getting into those labs.

Your comment reminded me of 'Nightfall' by Isaac Asimov...

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reply to post by HazyChestNutz This is a good site on HAARP . www.theforbiddenknowledge.com... signature:

Thanks.

I have been assured, by everyone from Ph.D.s to poets, that HAARP is: 1. An ionospheric heater 2. A research tool 3. A military test bed 4. A tax-subsidized boondoggle 5. A directed-energy weapon 6. A communication system for submarines 7. A source of field-aligned ionospheric VHF reflectors 8. A way to improve satellite links 9. A planetary x-ray machine 10. A plot to depopulate the Third World 11. A means of creating power blackouts at will 12. Electronic warfare 13. Tesla's wireless power transmission 14. Tesla's secret death ray 15. Searching for space aliens 16. Killing space aliens 17. Killing off the militias 18. Keeping them awake at night (through RF head rectification) 19. Enforcing the New World Order 20. Creating nuclear-scale explosions 21. Weather modification 22. CIA mind control 23. Brain wave modification 24. The end of HF radio 25. The end of wildlife in Alaska 26. The end of atmospheric ozone 27. The end of the human race 28. The end of Earth itself. Now, this is pretty good for one transmitter. I think the last experimental radio that attracted this kind of attention was built by Marconi. What's Up With HAARP?

pff.... wtf... how can some antenna's cause all this. Need to look into this deeply.

Originally posted by smurfy

Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by smurfy

 

(This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated)

Search that page then,

I think there is a link there to all of the interview in segments, cheers.

This is one segment,

www.youtube.com...

This is an interview with Dr Brooks Agnew about HAARP, and he explains in simple terms the capabilties of HAARP as he relates it to the knowledge he has, as to how it operates as a system.

www.coasttocoastam.com...

Originally posted by Essan
reply to post by laymanskeptic

 

What's peculiar about altostratus undulatus?

It's been around for billions of years.

edit on 5-4-2011 by Essan because: correct link

Oh... right... so I guess it's a natural phenomenon. Silly me...

I'll take off my tinfoil hat now

Well let's clear a few things up.

This is the quote from the UN report (which itself is not indicative of anything significant)

The HAARP patent papers also stated that the invention could “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”.

Note that it explicitly refers to the function performed by the "detonation". In the late 50's and early 60's both the US and USSR detonated several nuclear devices of varying yields at certain altitudes in order to create numbers of charged particles and to study artificial belts of trapped electrons and ions.

Now consider the actual purpose (or main purpose) of HAARP which is to study the ionosphere, and consider the above information one can only conclude that the statement in the UN report (which doesn't even appear in the patent) is talking about the ability for HAARP to create numbers of charged particles in order to study belts of trapped ions & electrons.

Also note that the frequency of energy emitted by HAARP is unable to be absorbed by the troposphere or the stratosphere therefor it is unable to affect the weather. The ELF (extremely low frquency) waves produced by HAARP are also very neglible, measuring in at 1 tenth of a million of the Earth's natural background field. Only in your wildest dreams will such technology be able to create an earthquake.

The aurora sometimes generated by HAARP can't really be seen by the naked eye as it's far too faint. It's usually observed by sensitive cameras within the HAARP observatory. It's also worth noting that any actual changes caused by HAARP are quickly reversed soon after transmission is ceased.