File in U.N General Assembly that admits HAARP can manipulate weather and act as a Nuclear Weapon.

reply to post by Tonosama


As far as I remember from other threads on HAARP the theme is the same, in that it is the use of ELF waves that can be damaging. The "simulation" only, of a nuclear blast is then a moot point whether you relate it to radio disruption or earthquakes or not...it still hurts. This link is if true is quite evidential of that, apologies if anyone has posted it elsewhere,

catastrophist.wordpress.com...

It seems that physical damage can also done to the person, maybe this is also an area that could be enlarged apon.

Nowhere in the link does it state that HAARP's technology can create a nuclear explosion.

The website doesn't link to the original U.N. Assembly documents.

Without those, there's no need to jump to any sort of conclusion. The wording was vague and for all we know it was taken out of context.

The heating of the ionosphere by HAARP to simulate a "nuclear detonation" shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. That doesn't mean the test could produce any sort of explosion or mushroom cloud. It's simply to simulate the effects that a nuclear detonation could produce.

The linked site goes on to mention a facility in Puerto Rico to produce nuclear weapons. Which, most of us know, is against the Non-Proliferation agreement. Also the site mentions containment and testing facilities being built as well.

And that's the real story here. Not some wild speculation that HAARP can magically create a nuclear explosion.

Originally posted by HazyChestNutz
www.un.org...

ALEDIA CENTENO RODRIGUEZ, Frente Patriotico Arecibeño, said her organization had spoken last year on the United States strategy to authorize a nuclear weapons production facility in Puerto Rico, in violation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. She explained that Arecibo was home to the Arecibo National Astronomy and Ionospheric Centre (NAIC), which was used as an “ionospheric heater” [an array of antennae which are used for heating the uppermost part of the atmosphere]. Arecibo was also mentioned as a test-site for the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme (HAARP), in a patent filed by an individual in the United States, to conducted experiments related to ionospheric manipulation. HAARP could function as an anti-missile and anti-aircraft defence system, permit interception and disruption of communications, weather and submarine and subterranean communications, among other things. The HAARP patent papers also stated that the invention could “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”. She said Arecibo was also mentioned in connection with the Puerto Rico Karst Conservation Act, which included authorization for the deployment of a nuclear weapons production facility. Aerial photos taken in the region showed antenna-like devices directed towards the ground, present since the mid-1990s. The citizens of Arecibo had not been made aware of the consequences or possible effects of those atmospheric experiments. Statements found in the literature regarding those experiments admit to the use of laser rays aimed at the atmosphere and there have been witnesses to the use of such rays for decades. There was a high rate of cancer cases of unknown origin in that region.

Not sure why anyone would think this is a big deal. This is just what this lady said, its not as if it is some decleration of truth. The fact that she says "Statements found in the literature regarding those experiments admit to the use of laser rays aimed at the atmosphere and there have been witnesses to the use of such rays for decades." shows that she has an incredibly poor grasp of the concepts behind HAARP. HAARP doesn't use laser beams...so it is incredibly bizarre to bring up laser beams as if they have something to do with HAARP. Although she does have some facts right....yes it can “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”.....except taking that quote out of context gives it a much different meaning than what it is saying. In context the quote is talking about how heavy type nuclear devices cause EMPs which shut down communications.......HAARP does essentially the same thing without the nuclear BOOM aspect, or the radiation. The patent literature says nothing of HAARP being used to create Nuclear-Like explosions...however you could jump to that rather silly conclusion if you read that one line out of context.

Originally posted by Maluhia
This is testimony by this Rodriguez person. So who is saying :

HAARP could function as an anti-missile and anti-aircraft defence system, permit interception and disruption of communications, weather and submarine and subterranean communications, among other things.

The HAARP patent papers also stated that the invention could “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”.

Is she saying that first sentence - it is not attributed to anyone or any formal document.

Not really strong proof.

Read, my friend:

The HAARP patent papers also stated that the invention could “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”.

Meaning, whoever filed the patent papers, assuming a member of the U.S. government, put that information in them.

So the government, for their super-secret device, listed what it could do in patent papers?

Why do I get the feeling it doesn't do what you think it does based on the wording.

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Michiko says type 2 Alien Species:

reply to post by fleabit


That means nothing. They also brought out reports that they would be owning the weather in 2025, and it seems they are also actively pursuing this.

The gov also made the PNAC report publically available, it basically told what they wanted to happen for America in the next decade and it pretty much did.

Anyone think, like me, that The U.S. having this technology, and the rest of the world knowing about it, might be the only reason that the rest of the world has NOT insisted on The U.S. Dollar being retired as the world's reserve currency?

Maybe HAARP is The U.S.'s muscle that is being flexed at the moment, because if the Dollar goes bye bye as the worlds currency, we, in America, are screwed.
As some of you may suspect, I recently viewed the "End Of America" video.
Just a theory of mine.

Thoughts?
Thanks.

Check out what I said day's before this thread and all the other HAARP threads since my post...


"I thought of way's to create Earthquakes. I always thought it could be done with nuke's. What's keeping us from disposing our nukes at the bottom of the ocean on a fault line? Kind of like giving it an extra push to happen, then say it was natural."


And now UN says H.A.A.R.P can be used to make explosions..... Prob doing exactly what I stated....Cept without Nukes.

At the bottom of the page you linked.

For information media • not an official record

If the U.S. government is this sneaky, sinister organization that so many people think it is, then how does something like this get leaked? Surely they could do a better at keeping this stuff secret. All this is missing is a youtube video then it really super official!!

reply to post by HazyChestNutz


The thread title is completely bogus.

1) The UN documents do not "admit" anything. They were not written by HAARP scientists, or their funders. They were written by complainants against HAARP.

2) The documents do not claim that HAARP can manipulate weather. Or did I miss something here?

3) The documents most certainly do not say that HAARP can "act as a nuclear weapon". The point is, by detonating a nuclear weapon in the upper atmosphere, the resulting electromagnetic pulse can interfere with radio transmissions, which might be an advantage if you wanted to block your enemies' transmissions.

Since the nuclear test ban treaty and the ban of atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons this is no longer a viable solution.

Instead, HAARP can be used to heat the ionosphere, causing a local disturbance which might have the same effect (talk to any ham radio operator to find out why). Thus HAARP (an auroral heater) can take the place of a (dangerous) nuclear weapon, i.e. achieve the same effect, but presumably without the danger.

In other words, HAARP is able to deliver energy into the ionosphere in much the way that the sun already does.

So, I fail to see what that UN document has to do with the thread title.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Michiko says type 2 Alien Species:

Type 1 aliens he says can control weather, volcanoes, just short of calling them immortal and they mine the oceans, than he goes further and says type 2 are immortal. Now why if they are immortal would they need to live in the physical? The ones that are immortal would not have the need for the physical world except to control it for mortals, to keep everything in balance for the mortals survival. To me this kind of ideas I find very flawed. I wish I could talk with him to ask him what I have just stated. I would really like to hear what he would have to say.

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reply to post by HazyChestNutz


HAARF can not cause earth quake because its energy is not enough to cause one. It may cause limited weather changes, but that's all. I tend to think that this HAARF paranoia is a deception to divert the attention of the public from the real danger, the Brown Dwarf, perpetrated by some military sysop.

Deception is the key... here. Do not fall into it..

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Do not believe what Michio Kaku says. He is a fraud. There is no such thing as type 1, type 2 civilization.
He compares humans to ants which is extremely disgusting. He hasn't contributed to any development of the core science. Fraud, Fraud, Fraud....

reply to post by Maluhia


Cleverly you quoted two sentences, made a statement about the first sentence, deliberately ignoring the obvious weight of the second sentence. By associating the 'strong proof' of the second sentence with the (merely superficially) loosely attributable first sentence, you are aiming to reduce the weight of proof in that second sentence.

Hopefully most people can see clearly the way in which you are trying to obfuscate the reality of what this overall statement/ evidence of 'HAARP as a weapon of mass destruction' is actually demonstrating. Getting closer to 'damning evidence' by the day... Keep up the good work, all ye Truth Seekers!!!

I'll be looking deeply into this rabbit hole, as I suspect the trail will lead us uncomfortably close to recent major earthquakes (New Zealand, Japan etc)...

reply to post by tyranny22


It's quite clear to anyone with a brain/ lacking an agenda, that the wording in the statement quoted by the OP was chosen so that the reader would infer that HAARP offers secondary purpose as a weapon. Anyone that chooses to infer an abstract conclusion regarding 'simulations of post-detonation ionospheric effects' iz burying their head in the sand, or promoting a massively crucial (from the perspective of the PTB) disinformation campaign.

We're getting closer to the truth, and that makes 'them' uncomfortable. Watch carefully as the pro-debunkers & pseudoskeptics jump all over this, and any related topics.

Hi all,

I know not to trust everything wikipedia is telling but: en.wikipedia.org... where does it say anything about any weapon use?

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
It seems to be the same stuff we've been hearing about the HAARP array. Concerning the statement that it could, “simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device”, I believe this refers to the elector-magnetic pulse that comes from a nuclear blast and not the physically destructive force of an actual bomb. It depends on what function performed by a nuclear device they are referring to. Just my opinion on what was quoted.

Exactly! Which means that an MRI scanner is also a nuke! Maybe I should start a conspiracy that all major hospitals have a nuke inside intent on global destruction by stimulating earthquakes at major population centres around the globe. Fits right in there with NWO