Can someone explain timewave zero in simple terms?

Everything I've tried reading seems to get too deep into material too fast.

Assume someone's been playing Rip Van Winkle, and just woke up. How would you explain timewave zero to them?

reply to post by rocketman70433


...and to me as well. I feel an overload coming on soon!

In order to understand it you first have to ingest ten grams of psilocybin mushrooms, one thousand micrograms of '___', and a high dose of '___'..

Just kidding do NOT do that. lol

Simply put, Timewave is a graph to represent novelty on a global (perhaps even universal) scale.

Novelty, simply put, is change. When the graph goes down, the CHANCES of major changes effecting a large part of the global consciousness of people (such as the incident in Japan) goes UP. When the graph goes up, people go back to their HABITS of doing things like they did after the "newness" of the event has already altered their consciousness and the way they view and experience the world around them. There is a naturally occurring cycle, or repeating fractal, that occurs in the graph, and this has drawn a lot of speculation and interest.

It is not a prophecy engine, it doesn't predict the future, it doesn't specify events that are going to happen. It lays out periods of time, or windows, where there are greater chances of big change occurring that effect more than just you, it is usually something that changes the way the conscious mind views and observes the world around them.

The subject is split 50/50 between people who understand it and believe it is "on to something" and those who believe it is total garbage or a fraud. I would highly recommend starting with some of the material on Terrance McKenna and listening to some of his lectures.... it will give a lot more insight into the ideology than I could provide. There is also a great Timewave thread here on ATS but it is long.

Obviously, you should come to your own conclusions, but make sure you base them on fact and not misleading representations from other people who only have opinion and no good argument or facts to back their claims.

Good luck!

~Namaste

I've never really understood the timewave zero thing either, this thread should be interesting. good idea.

time, is like a record. and if you let it play long enough, it will start all over. you'll come to realize that events today, resonate with events in the past. the zero point, is supposedly when the repetition of time and events get closer and closer together until it appears that time is repeating itself on a daily basis.

Atleast thats how I understood it,..

reply to post by rocketman70433


It is the culmination of all time squeezed and funneled into a singularity in time.. All things that ever happened happening at the same time as the present simultaneously..

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

Novelty, simply put, is change. When the graph goes down, the CHANCES of major changes effecting a large part of the global consciousness of people (such as the incident in Japan) goes UP. When the graph goes up, people go back to their HABITS of doing things like they did.

So the graph plots "chances"? How does it harvest data and how does it calculate the data it plots? Like, what exactly is the graph plotting is my question.

reply to post by Myendica


That's a good summary of zero point on the graph and how resonance can be viewed, but there are conflicting views on this.

Time is like a record that will repeat, and the fractal nature of the Timewave illustrates this. However, the events themselves do not repeat. The periods of time that match up or resonate are because of the same chances for change, not because of the same events happening over and over again.

Good point though, and well explained.

~Namaste

reply to post by WhizPhiz


The formula is quite complex, but is mostly based on entropy, which is a measurable force.

If I published the formula that is used to plot the graph, it would make little sense to most people and would probably intimidate or confuse them rather than clarify how it is mapped. It can be found on the last few pages of the Countdown to 2012 thread.

The formula for calculating the graph is important, but probably not as important as understanding how McKenna arrived at it. (no, it wasn't just massive amounts of drugs either) McKenna specialized in chaos theory and extremely advanced mathematics. He understood that from chaos (entropy), there is order (a mathematical pattern to the chaos or entropy) and he defined this order as novelty, being the "visible" window of changes that occur within the ebbs and flows of the Timewave.

It's an amazing subject, even if you aren't fully convinced of how it works....

~Namaste

Here is a link to the formula and how they derived it... a good primer, but if you are afraid of math, look away.

www.johnsheliak.com...

Enjoy!

~Namaste

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

McKenna specialized in chaos theory and extremely advanced mathematics. He understood that from chaos (entropy), there is order (a mathematical pattern to the chaos or entropy) and he defined this order as novelty, being the "visible" window of changes that occur within the ebbs and flows of the Timewave.

Thank you for explaining, I understand it now. It is indeed a complex but interesting theory, the whole thing about repeating/resonating of events in time is intriguing...

reply to post by WhizPhiz


My pleasure.

I'm glad that I could provide some background on it and spark curiosity because it is an incredible theory, and if it can be proven to be true, it would alter our concepts of time forever.

I really think McKenna was on the right track with this, but I'm still a pupil myself. There are a lot of people dedicated to finding answers, so at some point, I definitely recommend checking out the Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition thread.

You can scan the thread for the more important points, because there is a lot of banter, and there is a lot of good solid discussion towards the last 15-20 pages.

~Namaste

When I was using the time wave program, I didn't see anything that was meaningful. Mckenna said that the graph will spike during periods of high novelty, but at the same time he said war doesn't count as novelty, because death isn't novel. The graphs seem to contradict this, and some huge events are left out. If you want to get it, you can purchase the CD or you can find the program by other means if you search the internet.

Terence Mckenna: 2012 Timewave Zero TV Show Sightings



This video may give you some insight, or not.

Modular wave fractal eschatonics uses a combination of approaches.. the primary unit , the eschaton was
derived from the number of line changes in the King Wen sequence of the I Ching excluding 5 line changes in which
the sequence is altered from "perfect Symmetry to avoid this case of five line changes. It is postulated that
this sequence mirrors the natural waves of our DNA codons and is an inherent part of the universal geometric fractal matrix..hope that helps ps the software uses factors of 8x8 matrices to imply a framework but any other seed
number can be plugged in the software is avail for DOS and works well on windows .I have it if anyone needs it
www.1minpages.com...

Originally posted by heyJude
In order to understand it you first have to ingest ten grams of psilocybin mushrooms, one thousand micrograms of '___', and a high dose of '___'..

Just kidding do NOT do that. lol

You forgot 100 mg of alpha-methyl tryptamine, 100 mg of 4-allyloxy 2,5-dimethoxy amphetamine, and several Amanita Muscaria mushrooms.

Yers, indeed, just joking. DO NOT do that!!

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Did McKenna come up with this before or after taking "heroic" doses of '___' and contracting brain cancer? I'm just sayin.

Originally posted by grizzle2
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Did McKenna come up with this before or after taking "heroic" doses of '___' and contracting brain cancer? I'm just sayin.

It is my understanding that the experiments that Terence and his brother Dennis did with '___' was many years ago when they made a trip to the Amazon. I have no information that he was taking it at the time he got sick. There is no evidence that '___' causes cancer. You may want to check Dr. Rick Strassmans work that was funded by the U.S. Government in the nineties.

www.rickstrassman.com...

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