Tell me lies, Tell me sweet little lies....

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by simone50m

 

The only solution I can come up with is half cocked. We need to find some anti-politicians. Politicians sweet talk and lie to the public, while taking lots of money for their campaign from lobbiests, then doing their bidding while in office. We need to find people that will sweet talk and lie to lobbyists, take their money so they can win the election, then tell lobbyists to go blank themselves, and do the people's bidding. I would do it, but I am not a good public personality, I would scare most people away I fear.

I will.... and I'll do whatever it takes!

Note: People are always drawn to my personality and charm! This could work!

reply to post by TKDRL


you said, "Sad, people don't seem to get it, they just look at the world through their own particular one eyed glasses, that only focuses on the bad of "the enemy party".


This is so true. The thing is I understand. My way of thinking has changed drastically in just the last few years. I use to be one of those people that took a side and I really did think of the other side as my enemy. It was the way I was raised. It was all I knew.

I'm 33 yrs old now and really just started to "wake up" when it comes to a lot of things I've always believed a couple of years ago. It's not easy, You really do have to come out of your comfort zone. I don't think there's many things that are harder on a psychological level than to start questioning your own beliefs. Especially when those beliefs have been such a part of your life for so long.

I'm still learning and I'm still questioning things. It's been tough, but I guess I decided I'd rather know the truth about things, even if the truth hurt, than to go my entire life believing and defending lies.

reply to post by jnyblujns


This last election we actually tried that with the TEA Party, and ended up with radical Republicans instead.

I would like to see ACTUAL independent candidates run, people who are centered politically and not on the fringe of one side of the political spectrum.

Really good thread, and realized this for probably 20 years or more. I finally can no longer vote, for I cannot cast an endorsement for any party, though had always chosen our peoples party, but noticed when it was in in my province that it had gone from its grass roots origins to being more conservative and punitive to the poor than the social credit had even been, and that was saying a lot. I understood then and there that it had been taken over.

However, I've thought long and hard on the alternatives, and the depth of the web that is around us in this world.
In the US, the trail of the money and who holds the purse or keys to the Federal Reserve, and we know that trail leads offshore to foreign powers in particular the Rothchild family. The US government has been hijacked and dances to the tune of international banker/mobsters but in particular one family is the Zeus/Enlil/El of them all. Or feel they are his representative. The industrial military complex also became a shadow force, a black operations and strong arm for this foreign body.

Whoever controls the money and military control the country, and that is held by a certain group of mafia henchmen on foreign soil.

There is a bank mural with protestors holding up blank signs, basically the people iwth no voice, though they still have the illusion of choice, but there is none.

The idea of electing our own, which is something their system is set up to prevent by the way, is worth considering, but the clause is real that was added. Basically the party system is a lazy mans way of not having to take responsibility.

I feel the solution would need to be really entrenched in public will to be successful, and that word has many meanings, in that it wouldn't go easy in the least, we the people would need to have the will power to sacrifice it all, put it all on the table, take the risk that they would willingly put out all the lights, ie dispose of humanity, in the world before giving up their power. They may even conceivably prefer to see earth turned into mars and devestated than lose power. Its not them, but the ones under them, that would be the factor in this.

The only way I think this would work, and it may go so far as to run our own, and then avidly protect them only to replace them with another if needed, and so on. Wash, rinse and repeat. Is to form counsels in every area with citizens realizing that the leaders aren't doing their bidding. There is still wars and world wide poverty and corruption on a massive scale, starting with all the rules and regulations there own city has regulating home based businesses, home gardens and food sharing, and the way farms or land can be used, ie. hard to get an eco farm going as most wont allow multi family dwellings unless your a millionaire putting up townhouses, for which they get some pay off money. Think of the solutions to homelessness that could be done, and yurts, gardens and volunteers to help out, if were not like this. So many solutions people could do on their own.

The first step in practicing learning that you are growing up and can solve problems is to form groups that invite all to participate all the time, even the poor and handicapped, and drive them out, mind their children and drop them off. Really strong organized community watch dog counsels that then can start to run their own locally and change bylaws.

That is when you might have a good try at always having enough to take over should they target anyone, for enough people would be flexing their empowerment muscles it would too hard to put the fire out.

Just electing an independent would solve nothing. He would be eliminated, set up, or a clone produced.

reply to post by jnyblujns


I didn't have to view your videos because I remembered everyone of those lies when I watched them at the time they were aired. The old adage "never trust a politician" is what you've proven here. Both parties are one of the same. There maybe different political platforms, but both parties are still influenced by corporate America and their self serving interests. There's a reason campaign reform was never passed. There's a reason the supreme court overturned and favored corporate contributions. There's a reason elected officials keep spending and putting this country further into debt. There's a reason why we keep sending troops into oil rich countries. There's a reason the average Joe can't run for president. There's a reason why a 3rd party candidate isn't given the same kind air time as the two major parties. There's a reason why congressional and senate candidates don't have term limits. There's a reason why elected officials have the best health care, best pensions, and high paying salaries, while they continue to vote on bills that increase tax on the working class and preventing all Americans from having health care. There's a reason why they bail out corporations and continue to let banks foreclose on our homes. Theirs a reason they spend billions of dollars annually on the military and ignore our struggling economy. There's a reason why they continue to support the Federal Reserve Bank,,, As I digress

Great thread

Carlin really had a grasp on what this country is and where it is headed. He was probably the greatest influence in my "awakening" to what goes on. Like most americans i was too blinded by events going on in my own life and the lives of people that i knew. I watched the mainstream news and thought i knew what was going on, like most other people i knew. Once you start to see the government for what it is you realize how easy it is to see.
There is no going back.

The citizens of this country have no voice in this current system we live under. I have said time and time again, the system is fixed against the citizens, and voting new politicians in will never change it. It is not just the politicians that are corrupt, it is the entire system. If you havent figured this out even after the decade of events that have taken place, you are simply in denial.

Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman

Guess what.... theirs ground troops

any proof of this...

Yeah man... CIA operatives on the ground gathering info ( Or so that's what the MSM wants us to believe.)

Plus, what is the difference really if in fact we have aircraft that can hover at low altitude while firing high-caliber rounds at ground troops?

And do you REALLY believe that we are given all the facts in a situation like this? He couldn't even run it by congress.