POLITICS: Bush Asks Blacks to Go Republican

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
Then are you saying he should not have gone and talked to the Urban League? What would people say about that? They would bash him for not going just like with the NAACP.

Like I said. Double Standard. Can't have it both ways.

No, 9 months ago he should have said something like "I know this administration has not done everything for the African Americans and other minorities that we could have. I'm sorry for that, if you haven't noticed there's a lot going on in the world. I would like to introduce these programs etc..."

He should have done it in a press conference, a normal one, not one for just the "black people" like they only read the black people news or something. Had he done it that way it would have been appropriate. The way he did do it is distasteful at best.

So, like I said, no matter what he did at this point, if he did or didn't go, you would still be bashing him.

So, did the Urban League invite him to speak 9 months ago? How about the NAACP? How long were those invitations hanging out there? I don't know. Do you?

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
So, like I said, no matter what he did at this point, if he did or didn't go, you would still be bashing him.

So, did the Urban League invite him to speak 9 months ago? How about the NAACP? How long were those invitations hanging out there? I don't know. Do you?

Yes, no matter what he did at this point he would get slammed because it's to late. Do you think in the last 4 years part of his job might have been helping out minorities that are in this country? He did a good job helping ILLEGAL MEXICANS get drivers licenses. He doesn't' need to be invited to a NAACP to UL meeting to do something for americans, he's the president it's his job to do it.

Are you saying that you think this is a sincere effort to improve the African American community and has nothing to do with a election year? Given his track record on false election promises and the timing I hope you are smarter than how you are sounding. Come on he's basically saying vote for me and here's what I will give you, why not just start handing out cash to black people, wait this works better because if he's reelected he doesn't have to give them squat.

Well usually these organizations have they annual conventions every year and presidents like to attend to keep face with this groups that tend to have lots of power on the people they represent and democrats and Republicans like to take advantage of this, of political gain.

This year Bush is the first president since Hoover that did not attend the NAACP, and that is seen by this group as a slap to the people they represent.

African Americans have much more to gain by voting for Republicans than they might gain from voting for Democrats. Democrats have taken African Americans for granted. Never forget Lincoln was a Republican.

Originally posted by J0HNSmith

Yes, no matter what he did at this point he would get slammed because it's to late. Do you think in the last 4 years part of his job might have been helping out minorities that are in this country? He did a good job helping ILLEGAL MEXICANS get drivers licenses. He doesn't' need to be invited to a NAACP to UL meeting to do something for americans, he's the president it's his job to do it.

Are you saying that you think this is a sincere effort to improve the African American community and has nothing to do with a election year? Given his track record on false election promises and the timing I hope you are smarter than how you are sounding. Come on he's basically saying vote for me and here's what I will give you, why not just start handing out cash to black people, wait this works better because if he's reelected he doesn't have to give them squat.

So, you are saying that he shouldn't have gone to either meeting then. In other words, you are going to bash Bush no matter what he does or when. That makes this thread just another opportunity for people to show that they hate Bush, just like the hundreds of others here that people post for no other reason than to repeat how much they hate the President. Eh, crap is still crap, no matter how many times you go to the toilet.

As for those Americans with African ancestery, what exactly should he be doing for them that he shouldn't be doing for every American? The entire idea of a political group whose membership is based on race is offensive anyway and I applaud him for not going to the NAACP as I believe they are race card pimps and class warfare whores. Admittedly I don't know as much about the Urban League but I know some of what he said had them clapping today.

Originally posted by CherokeeLeader
Never forget Lincoln was a Republican.

Lincoln wanted to send the slaves back to Africa or Central America. He didn't believe blacks and whites could live together. Not all of history is as easy as black and white.

(Reads Ambient Sound's post, clicks on way above)

Couldn't have said it better myself!

And, JohnSmith, 'just start handing out cash to black people" is Kerry's platform, not Bush's.


Edit = fix qoute

[edit on 7/23/04 by Seth Bullock]

AmbientSound,

As for those Americans with African ancestery, what exactly should he be doing for them that he shouldn't be doing for every American? The entire idea of a political group whose membership is based on race is offensive anyway and I applaud him for not going to the NAACP as I believe they are race card pimps and class warfare whores.

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Please, don't loose your temper we can all talk and disagree without insulting people.

I alive in the South and I know people that support this groups and they are not what your describe in that quote, actually most of them are from well know religious groups around here even when I don't agree with religious organizations I have to give some of them credit for taking care of some of the needs of people around here that our government has forgotten about with his spending frenzy in is pursue of war and war on terrorism.

I have done work with some of this people and used my own money to buy food and feed some of the needy where I live.

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
In other words, you are going to bash Bush no matter what he does or when.

Well READ the posts I already wrote!!! I'm not writing this stuff for you to not read it and ramble the same song at me. That question was addressed and answered. Please pay more attention in the future.

And for bush lies here is a link with days in wish he has turn his back after promising things.


www.house.gov...

No body in this forums are lying about bush lies to the nation.

Originally posted by Seth BullockAnd, JohnSmith, 'just start handing out cash to black people" is Kerry's platform, not Bush's.
[edit on 7/23/04 by Seth Bullock]

Really? What are you basing that on? Please back that accusation up with facts. Are you just taking a cheap shot here for no other reason than to support a republican point of view? I found your comments not productive to the conversation and the equivalent to someone watching a football game yelling at the screen.

Originally posted by Ambient Sound

Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Are you saying that you think this is a sincere effort to improve the African American community and has nothing to do with a election year? Given his track record on false election promises and the timing I hope you are smarter than how you are sounding.

As for those Americans with African ancestery, what exactly should he be doing for them that he shouldn't be doing for every American?

This is an excellent question. Thoose of you using this thread to bash Bush, please answer it.

Originally posted by marg6043
Well Muaddib,

Knowing your by your post for some time I have to say that not matter what I say you have your mind work out.

It is not what you say that is important, is the evidence that is important. Just like links are important to back whatever it is you want to say, it is the same with this.

Tell me where was it that he lied. You keep saying that he lied because that's what Kerry has been using, which in itself is not true due to the facts that keep coming up. Kerry was just trying to stir the election in his favour, but we have evidence from different sources "other than the US administration" that Bush did not lie, neither did Blair. Did they make a decision on some incomplete intelligence report? Yes they did, althou Saddam was a threat to the US and others and was actively seeking to get nuclear weapons and had banned missiles, rockets, and other materials.

A lie is like what Clinton said about Monica Lewenski, that's a lie. A lie is what Kerry has been saying about his military medals, in his case a lie is now called "flip-flop."
He first said back then that he had given away his medals because he was against the Vietnam war, then he said he didn't give them away and just gave away his ribbons.

Videotape Contradicts John Kerry�s Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals

Kerry has been the one who has been caught up in lies and flip-flops, not Bush, Bush has told the American public how it is while Kerry just says what you want to hear now wether or not is a lie, then later changes his opinion and says something contrary to what he first stated.

Kerry-Linked Anti-War Group Can't Bury Deceit

Yesterday we noted that John Kerry had claimed, in a Columbus, Ohio, speech, that more black Americans are in prison than in college. It turns out that KERRY LIED!!!! Blogger Clyde Middleton has the numbers (links below in PDF):

The US [Department of Justice] tells us the number of blacks incarcerated at mid-year 2002 (page 11, Table 13): 818,900 black men; 65,600 black women; total 884,500 blacks.

The US Census Bureau tells us the number of blacks in college during 2002: 802,000 black men; 1,476,000 black women; total 2,278,000 blacks.

Excerpted from.
www.opinionjournal.com...


It is simple, Kerry cannot be trusted. Oh btw, the military records of Bush were not lost but misplaced, and yes that does happen in the military, just ask former soldiers. While in the Navy I can't remember how many times they misplaced my medical records (in a folder) and other paperwork. All the Armed Forces are quite slow when it comes to paperwork. Well, at least in the Navy and the Marines.



[edit on 23-7-2004 by Muaddib]

Well Marg, I was rasied in Alabama and have lived in the South for most of my life. Is that South enough for you?

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. That is what NAACP means, right? As far as I know everyone that has ever lived has been some color or another. Well, I'm as colored as anyone else on the planet. Currently my arms are a deep tan color and my butt is probably a pasty pale light cream color. Heh, I'm multicolored (joking). Do you think the NAACP would welcome me into it's organization with open arms? I don't, because they consider me to be white, which is inaccurate anyway. I've never seen an actual white person except perhaps in the movie "Powder". Never seen any Black people either, but here you have an orginaization that labels people and encourages division where there doesn't have to be any.

There is no difference in people unless you create the difference. Why isn't it the National Association for the Advancement of People? I think it's because their leadership is racist and if they can't keep people divided as they do, they lose their power over them. Their very name is racist and just keeps the division going.

Like I said, The President of the United States shouldn't have anything to do with a racist organization like the NAACP.

Originally posted by curme
[...]Want to see what the military thinks of Bush? Just read through any issue of Army Times.

The Army Times Publishing Company is owned by the Gannett Company, which also owns USA Today and dozens of "local" newspapers, none of which maintain a neutral editorial position.

It no more represents the opinions of members of the Army than the New York Times represents the opinions of the people of New York. It does not and should not ever be considered an authority on "what the military thinks of Bush". That is for military members to decide on their own.

Just as Americans have differing political opinions, so do members of the armed services. To suggest otherwise is to suggest a falsehood.

Bush goes to Bob Jones University, of which I could never attend, because sometimes I date black chicks, but does not go to the NAACP. That's a message to me on where his heart is.

Originally posted by marg6043
And for bush lies here is a link with days in wish he has turn his back after promising things.

www.house.gov...

No body in this forums are lying about bush lies to the nation.

If you bother to actually read that page, you will find that it is full of accusations that do not stand up to scrutiny. Supporting home ownership, for example, does not equate to supporting pork barrel programs claiming to promote housing. Praising worker productivity does not mean supporting federal job training programs.

I was unable to find evidence of a single lie by President Bush on that page, and invite you to share any genuine examples that actually demonstrate a real (versus perceived) lie by the president.

The page is dishonest in its analysis, self-discrediting and proves nothing other than the mendacity of its sponsors and the gullibility of those willing to accept lies as truth. It is also insulting to the reader.

I am not a fan of President Bush, but the attacks against him are themselves characterized by lies, demagoguery and innuendo which prove nothing, and are disgraceful.

I am still waiting for real proof of real lies by President Bush. Until some real proof comes along, I must give him the benefit of the doubt.

Meanwhile, I do not at all appreciate being lied to as an accusation of lies. Utter nonsense intended for the weak of mind.

Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by curme
[...]Want to see what the military thinks of Bush? Just read through any issue of Army Times.

The Army Times Publishing Company is owned by the Gannett Company, which also owns USA Today and dozens of "local" newspapers, none of which maintain a neutral editorial position.

It no more represents the opinions of members of the Army than the New York Times represents the opinions of the people of New York. It does not and should not ever be considered an authority on "what the military thinks of Bush". That is for military members to decide on their own.

Just as Americans have differing political opinions, so do members of the armed services. To suggest otherwise is to suggest a falsehood.

I would contend that the majority of readers of the Army Times are Army soldiers. In order make a profit, and publish more issues, you would have to cover topics that are of interest to the Army soldier, and topics that contain the majority of the readers point of view.

Muaddib,

Good for you and your links, wanted or not kerry will win the elections. If you disagree with my link about the lies oh well I can get more were that one came from, just like you.

AmbienSound,

I don�t work or neither I am a member or the NAACP, but I care of the problems of the minorities in the south and I also has worked with migrant Hispanic minorities specially with children.

Magic,

I said to you the same I say to Muaddib, and something else, believe whatever you feel to believe that is the beauty of been in US, and again Kerry will win the elections.


At least I give to the comunity to help I just don't sit in a computer and complain. Nothing personal fellow members.

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