Marijuana Causes Mental illness. Use Prescription Drugs instead - Oklahoma Congressman

reply to post by NerdGoddess


Stop talking about personal use. I'd like to keep the thread going thank you.

It is against T&C to discuss personal use so please don't. Im not trying to be mean but they are strict about it and I'd like to see these topics allowed to be discussed but it never fails, people always bring up personal use.

reply to post by Pha3drus


Apparently he's taking kickbacks from big pharma. Homeopathic herbs have their place in society and anyone who tells you differently probably works for big pharma.

Unless they've found some new startling evidence about marijuana what this guy says goes against everything i learned in my drug class and the book we used. Marijuana causes LESS lung cancers according to trials, NOT more. It STILL damages the lungs, but not as badly as tobacco smoking. FURTHERMORE, tobacco smoking is the most addictive drug on their lists. It's above smoking crack coc aine. It may not be the most devastating drug, but never let anyone tell you it's not addictive! And alcohol is shown to lead harder and quicker to addiction than marijuana.

You can find out more by googling 2006 and Dr. Tashkin and UCLA and National Institute on Drug Abuse and 1200 people and marijuana smoking and lung cancer.

The book does say that marijuana harms the lungs and causes pre-cancerous lesions among other things that you wouldn't want to happen to your lungs. But the book makes it very clear that eveyr indication is that smoking tobacco causes higher rates of lung cancer.

Marijuana DOES impair the mind, but so do other drugs. That is not distinctive in my mind.

This is the book:
Uppers, Downers, All Arounders: Physical and Mental Effects of Psychoactive Drugs

I'm no advocating using marijuana, that's illegal and STILL harmful. BUT I AM going to post and rebuke what this man says because most of it contradicts what you'll read in that book.

PLEASE don't do drugs, and if you do, read up on the information out there. Most of the illegal stuff is dirty and unregulated so you never know what you're going to get.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


Okay my bad, I wasn't aware of that rule, thankyou for letting me know, and I went back and edited my previous post.

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Originally posted by NerdGoddess
reply to post by Pha3drus

 

the only thing pot is bound to do, is take away your drive to accomplish things. THATS IT. it doesn't give you a mental illness, wtf?

Well, there is evidence of some memory impairment with pot, yes younger people do seem more prone to it, logical in that brains are still forming critical pathways. But some people can get similar problems that with many Rx drugs. Mixing and matching pain pills, sedatives, sleeping pills will "not do the brain good" if you want to keep it. And a not so obvious combination, in particular; The C2/C3 narcotics plus barbiturate's plus muscle relaxants, this can be very dangerous, as in a potentially lethal case of 'the stupids". Or acting like you drank the Napa Vally dry, and threw in some happy pills for good measure. There are far to many, easy ways to have those you may not even like, get all your stuff.

reply to post by jonnywhite


Thanks for the links to the study. Found it helpful.

reply to post by SmokeandShadow


Ok, I'm a bit late but I just had to comment.

I've seen these "facts" bandied about just about everywhere online, even on a Christian site that talks about marijuana (found through a random search).

Are they true? I don't believe they are.

How Does Marijuana Affect the Brain?

Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to the brain and other organs throughout the body.

THC acts upon specific sites in the brain, called cannabinoid receptors, kicking off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the "high" that users experience when they smoke marijuana. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. The highest density of cannabinoid receptors are found in parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thinking, concentrating, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.1

Not surprisingly, marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, impaired coordination, difficulty with thinking and problemsolving, and problems with learning and memory. Research has shown that, in chronic users, marijuana's adverse impact on learning and memory can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off.2 As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a suboptimal intellectual level all of the time.

Research into the effects of long-term cannabis use on the structure of the brain has yielded inconsistent results. It may be that the effects are too subtle for reliable detection by current techniques. A similar challenge arises in studies of the effects of chronic marijuana use on brain function. Brain imaging studies in chronic users tend to show some consistent alterations, but their connection to impaired cognitive functioning is far from clear. This uncertainty may stem from confounding factors such as other drug use, residual drug effects, or withdrawal symptoms in long-term chronic users.

He's full of crap.

I know plenty of people who smoke the stuff and have masters degrees and high level jobs and occupations, families, responsibilities.... and none of them are mentally ill, stupid or forgetful.

sorry

reply to post by Pha3drus


How come this mj thread is ok?

Every time I praise mj I get closed.

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Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
reply to post by Pha3drus

 

How come this mj thread is ok?

Every time I praise mj I get closed.

massive difference between a thread on MJ and a current story, and praising it. Massive.

MJ has been proved to not cause mental problems, but to bring out any latent mental health problems that may well have been brought into life at some point in time anyway. They guy quoted in the article is blatent dissinfo/propaganda (same thing in my book) Studies have shown, time and time again, that MJ is far safer than many of the "legal" drugs (such as alchohol/tobacco/paracetamol) Yet the machine still prefers its own brand of brainwashing. This should come as no supprise to anyone who is paying the slightest bit of attention. But there it is, plain as day.

reply to post by Acidtastic


No diff.

I have posted praising mj, and those posts are always closed.

I would just like to know who makes these dumb decisions.

Originally posted by sosesose60
someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a suboptimal intellectual level all of the time.

OMG, I wish these pro-prohibitionist "studies" and "fact sheets" would just shut up...really. A sub optimal level? For doing simple math? Sure, but what about painting a beautiful painting, writing a masterpiece song or exploring abstract ideas and solving problems creatively?

Also, perhaps the largest aspect which is not explored is the psychology of those using cannabis. If you are a stressed individual, full of latent psychological problems that manifest through emotional extremes e.c.t then you shouldn't touch anything mind altering unless seated with a therapist to work through the thoughts that are going to come about. We, as a society, need to realize that these problems are coming from the environment, the values, and the perceptions that this society is breeding.

These so called studies cannot account for mental health issues with physical observation so they must conclude that it does so by statistical analysis which we all know is easily manipulated and glossed over garbage. They DON'T however touch on the psychological prerequisites that would lead to an inevitable questioning of the current state of society....