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Former CIA spy says Iran will use nukes against Israel an the West

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Just like the Iraqi guy who advised the west that Sadaam Hussein had WMD's. Now he's saying he lied, but glad he lied, in order to bring about regime change.

Iran does not have the capability or desire to attack Israel. They know they will be blasted to kingdom come by the Israeli's even if there was a whiff of this happening.

This is another false flag, designed to gather support for an attack on Iran. If HAARP does exist and it has caused the disasters around the world expect a massive quake in Iran any day soon.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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Maybe he got his banking bill through and realized he had been anally violated, he is a nut job but they are no saints and this is not anti jew before you bang your drum people.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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Of course they had WMD's They shipped what was left to Syria in trucks after they used the Gas on the Kurd's. We even had pictures of them loading them into the trucks and the trucks crossing the boarder. Pictures that I personally saw. Some were on the news. Given to us by Israeli Intelligence Or are your referring to other WMD's. Now was that a reason to invade Iraq? Nope not in my opinion. The current Libyan Government is sitting on 9.5 metric tons of it. As is every other third world country thanks to the Russians.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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round n round we go.
u got short memor---eees or is it your on eeeee-
i remember solid info from a scientist ,lets c oh yeah the other war ,,a guy from iraq ,, biological weapons on mobile factory trucks... remember --- big bugs bunny spiral spinin.. remeber the meber is in the orange bucket in the eu,,oops they are to the north south east n west of titrit 44dd,,, .
wow changed down a gear from top scientist to low solider of rev guard,,wonders do never cease.. change the way you cut the cloth ,but its still the same roll with moth bites...hey alice, its still a man whos maybe being paid?? how many times..you had a march on wall street hello,,no media ,,,. even the so called un sheep are still really sheep..
we are #ed plain an simple the writeing is on thee wallls every place even in the tunes..



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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I hate playing devil's advocate, but how do we know Ahmadenejad's translators are relaying what hes really saying? odd to see him shake hands with men who are clearly Jewish. unless these Jews are pulling a Hitler.

OK done thinking out loud


this whole Zionist thing is still vague to me. don't Zionist want a Jewish state and that's it? i mean if millions of your people are killed wouldn't you want them to have a safe place to live? Stalin killed a bunch of Russians, hes gone, no more Russians killed, Mao killed a bunch of Chinese, hes gone.. well china isn't really any better off.

There are books saying the Jews are gods chosen people, Anti-Zionists jealousy?

*sigh*

What are Palestinians anyway? seems like "Palestinian" is the same as "redneck" or a high school clique, or some guys who reenact the American revolution trying to become a colonial third party. (not that that would be so terrible)

Im sure that Iran is behind the uprisings, im sure that Al-qaeda, Taliban, are Iranian proxies like Hezbollah, im sure Israel is feeling the vice tighten, and im sure Israel will retaliate

anyway, im tired of the Zionist/hate Jews rhetoric, and in general... good day ladies and sirs



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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It appears that some people really don't give a rats about destroying Babylon...

But now we're focusing on destroying Persia too?

Why stop there... Lets take on the Egyptians... We have plenty of photos of the pyramids lying about.. why do we need them any more?

Hell with it, Bethlehem and maybe Damascus too...

But what ever we do, lets not conduct proper, thorogh investigations into our fears.. that would be stupid.

And lets be sure we keep the peaceful and democratic Saudis in place.. I mean we cant go around destroying everyone can we.


You Americans really make me sick... Its no wonder races, religions and regions are dedicating themselves to destroying you.

And before you bite back about be gods righteous people and the strong nation, or that this inst an American thing, BS..

all this anti Iraq BS came from America
all this anti Iran BS is coming from America, fed from Israel

Do the world a favor and hang your leaders before the world grows tired of your corporate evilness.

The world will hold you, the American people accountable and it will ultimately be you who suffer if you just sit back and let this continue indefinitely.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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If anyone touches Israel its ww3. Havent you read their Torah where it says Any nation that trys to exterminate Israel in the last days that their flesh will dissolve from their bodies and eyeballs and it specifically mentioned the Edomites Arab nations



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
It appears that some people really don't give a rats about destroying Babylon...

But now we're focusing on destroying Persia too?

Why stop there... Lets take on the Egyptians... We have plenty of photos of the pyramids lying about.. why do we need them any more?

Hell with it, Bethlehem and maybe Damascus too...

But what ever we do, lets not conduct proper, thorogh investigations into our fears.. that would be stupid.

And lets be sure we keep the peaceful and democratic Saudis in place.. I mean we cant go around destroying everyone can we.


You Americans really make me sick... Its no wonder races, religions and regions are dedicating themselves to destroying you.

And before you bite back about be gods righteous people and the strong nation, or that this inst an American thing, BS..

all this anti Iraq BS came from America
all this anti Iran BS is coming from America, fed from Israel

Do the world a favor and hang your leaders before the world grows tired of your corporate evilness.

The world will hold you, the American people accountable and it will ultimately be you who suffer if you just sit back and let this continue indefinitely.










Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I'm American. I know America is wrong. I didn't choose to be born American, did you choose to be born where ever you were born? No.

There is nothing us as an American populace can do until we have enough people weined off of MSM. If I try to revolt, I'll surely be killed by brainwashed Americants, or imprisoned for Treason.

Either way, nothing gets done -- so why condemn myself just yet? It's quite evident that more and more American people are opening their eyes to what REAL America is, but we are few and far between plagued by propaganda and kept distracted by the powers that be.

It's really easy to sit on your highhorse, not even say where you are from and make back seat sweeping ignorant statements.... Last time I checked... this is the ENTIRE world's problem. What are you doing to help?????


Mmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmm...... ZIIIIIIIIIIP


You are just breathing fire my friend.... spreading more hate, which ends in more destruction.


P.S.

If you don't think it's the entire world's problem, then you are sadly mistaken as the outcome of this treachery surely has no restrictions of reach on this rock we call earth. Everyone in every nation will be directly effected by the outcome of the treacherous events taking place as we speak.

If everyone has to suffer the consequences of America's problem, ipsofacto, it becomes the World's problem. For America cannot be blamed for the inaction of others.

In other words, if you guys just sit back and let America do what it does you are an equal stake in the problem.... there is only so much we can do with the way our country was structured....

We don't live in a Libya... and as such, it's not as easy as just "Revolting." We can't even have peaceful protests without police aggression and mass assault... let alone a true blue revolution.

Oh and, it's not like we can make a difference at the Ballot box either.

So please do tell us, what is the mighty solution sir?
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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If you don't think it's the entire world's problem, then you are sadly mistaken as the outcome of this treachery surely has no restrictions of reach on this rock we call earth. Everyone in every nation will be directly effected by the outcome of the treacherous events taking place as we speak.


I dunno about that, America's in a bad state of decline.You've gotten to the point where you dont dictate things any more, infact, you've gotten to the point where your relying on other nations, IE China.

No doubt that if China starts refusing the US its money addiction or cheap goods addiction China will take a hit, but China's in a good position to recover, where as it would be the nail in the coffin for the USA.

Sooner rather than later your going to piss off one to many countries and allies and they will not be there when you need them.

Down here in Oz land the only thing we have tied to America is our camera happy Pm's who want a photo op on the white-house lawn.

We have enough mineral wealth, technological know-how and ties to china via trade. We wont be going down with you.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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Um I think the world is very well aware that we save their butts every time their about to be enslaved. I'm also sure your from a country that would be speaking German or perhaps Japanese right now If it wasn't for the United States Of America. On Another note the US didn't decide to give the Jews back their former homeland it was the British's Colony and their call. There is an educational link below for you. And to further educate you the USA is not a Christian state. It's a free state where everyone Christian Muslims and Jews live together in peace. A model a lot of you clowns and your countries should think about. HERE we don't care what you believe. Here you pay your taxes and obey the law Period. HERE you can protest and not get carpet bombed. It ALSO seems we are the only ones holding people accountable. Where does all these religions groups get their weapons from??? Both sides buy their weapons from Russia. That is who should be held accountable. How are they allowed to sell Libya 9.5 metric tons of mustard gas? and NOBODY complains. How many MILLIONS of Russian Mines are laying buried all over the world for children to find. Here is your link showing England and their Commonwealth giving away the Palestinians their country back to the people that originally owned it after the Nazi Gases was it 7 million Jews? NO religion advocates violence. It's these nut jobs that can't read that are told what their religions are and that are stupid enough to believe it. I truely hope the United States throws the United Nations out on their asses because it is an utterly useless teethless organization.Corrupt with a bunch of freeloaders

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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OH he's Australian. They were the next in line to be speaking Japanese. effective right around 1942 I bet however they didn't teach that in his history books. America's hardly in a decline thats a political sales pitch and nothing would help the united states more than to stop buying the junk they make in china. We are capable of making any products we need. Your just hearing a bunch of Liberals crying about money because they think it MAY help them retain their power. We spend 600 million dollars in 6 days helping the English and the British preventing a dictator from bombing his own people. Protecting the same people that were fighting against us in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have no interests there at all. In fact it will most likely become another home for religious nut jobs. We haven't bought their oil since 1985. I personally think America would be best served to bring all her troops home and let all these countries kill them selves. In addition cut off all the Billions and Billions of dollars handed out to all these countries that complain about us and demand payment on all of our loans that were made to other countries. We wouldn't have a deficit then. BTW if America IS in decline you might want to start brushing up on your Chinese and buy a Wok.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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I'm sorry are you having some sort of flash back or just now learning English? I'm not being rude but I can't make out your post If your referring to Mustard Gas and are looking for proof I can send you pictures of a bunch of dead and disfigured Kurds that Saddam killed with the imaginary WMD. Or you could just Goggle it.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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Sorry mate but the ANZUS treaty sorta ties Australia to the US,don't you think? The US is gone but we will be peachy LMFAO we'll have real close ties with China real close matey,sorry but i do want to learn to speak Chinese or Indonesian,I am one Aussie who's glad the US helped save our asses from the Japanese in WW2,

I do laugh at the fact your hate filled rant about the US is fine and dandy,but if you had replaced US citizen with say Muslims for example you'd be labelled a racist and a bigot,some double standards there hey?



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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May I ask what your definition of a Jew is? Do you consider descendants of Ishmael Jews? Do you consider descendants of Isaac real Jews? Are they both Jews in your opinion?



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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Firstly I am not a big fan of the yanks, but credit where it is due, they have had our back when we needed them against the Jap's especially. I am glad we don't speak Japanese and largely thanks to the US. However now figure that Chinese or could be the new Australian language.

I am wondering who is going to save us all, when China decides to make its move, after all we know when they run out of coal they will have ours. As for the lot in the middle East, I cannot work them out, you can only tell what their feeling by the way that theirs guns are leveled, in the air they are happy and leveled at you will there not.

I just wish all the governments stopped being spineless and cleansed the earth of any gun totting mongrels, that kill innocents for what ever reason. Basically do what ever that keeps them in their own countries and not mine. And from my limited knowledge the yanks save more innocents, then they kill so thats a good thing, I respect that.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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The rebels in Libya have just created
their own central bank
and oil export company
21stcenturywire.com...
if any of you are still spouting MORAL apologies
for any of these globalist occurances
I think you can stop now

It is now apparent beyond all doubt
the luciferian bankers have to subjugate the islamist banking system
in order to debt enslave the whole planet
simple

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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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If the CIA is saying Iran is going to nuke us and we don't give into their demands - I mean, listen to them - then you can be sure we'll get nuked and they'll provide us with "intel" that claims it was indeed Iran. It's a hostage situation, and the USA is being held by the CIA's agenda.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Sorry , I am the wrong person to ask that question too



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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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would this seem like this
chicago.cbslocal.com...

or the dead nuclear scientist found near taos,nm from wa...



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by phishyblankwaters


I mean, it's not like the IAEA has said many times Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, hasn't for several years, and currently in incapable of enriching uranium to the required 98% enrichment level to produce viable nuclear weapons grade fuel.


That's not true. The IAEA is pretty annoyed at Iran and has major problems with their lack of disclosure and transparency, including information on production of metallic uranium spheres (which have no use other than weaponry).



It's also interesting that one must ignore the fact that Iran is on the verge of becoming a true democracy, and has gone to great lengths, at times bending over backwards, to prove their nuclear ambitions are peaceful.


What planet on you on? In the one I know, the regime sent thugs to assassinate protestors who didn't believe the election results, which most people think were rigged.

They have done nothing of the sort to prove that their nuclear ambitions are peaceful; in many technical aspects except actual warhead production Iran's activities look like a weapons program.

Let's hear from the IAEA directly:



40. In order to confirm, as required by the Safeguards Agreement, that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities, the Agency needs to have confidence in the absence of possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme. Previous reports by the Director General have detailed the outstanding issues and the actions required of Iran,12 including, inter alia, that Iran implement the Additional Protocol and provide the Agency with the information and access necessary to: resolve questions related to the alleged studies; clarify the circumstances of the acquisition of the uranium metal document; clarify procurement and R&D activities of military related institutes and companies that could be nuclear related; and clarify the production of nuclear related equipment and components by companies belonging to the defence industries.

41. The information available to the Agency in connection with these outstanding issues is extensive and has been collected from a variety of sources over time. It is also broadly consistent and credible in terms of the technical detail, the time frame in which the activities were conducted and the people and
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12 A summary of the issues was provided to the Board in Section E of GOV/2008/15, and most recently in GOV/2009/74,
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organizations involved. Altogether, this raises concerns about the possible existence in Iran of past or current undisclosed activities related to the development of a nuclear payload for a missile. These alleged activities consist of a number of projects and sub-projects, covering nuclear and missile related aspects, run by military related organizations.

42. Among the activities which the Agency has attempted to discuss with Iran are: activities involving high precision detonators fired simultaneously; studies on the initiation of high explosives and missile re-entry body engineering; a project for the conversion of UO2 to UF4, known as “the green salt project”; and various procurement related activities. Specifically, the Agency has, inter alia, sought clarification of the following: whether Iran was engaged in undeclared activities for the production of UF4 (green salt) involving the Kimia Maadan company; whether Iran’s exploding bridgewire detonator activities were solely for civil or conventional military purposes; whether Iran developed a spherical implosion system, possibly with the assistance of a foreign expert knowledgeable in explosives technology; whether the engineering design and computer modelling studies aimed at producing a new design for the payload chamber of a missile were for a nuclear payload; and the relationship between various attempts by senior Iranian officials with links to military organizations in Iran to obtain nuclear related technology and equipment.

43. The Agency would also like to discuss with Iran: the project and management structure of alleged activities related to nuclear explosives; nuclear related safety arrangements for a number of the alleged projects; details relating to the manufacture of components for high explosives initiation systems; and experiments concerning the generation and detection of neutrons. Addressing these issues is important for clarifying the Agency’s concerns about these activities and those described above, which seem to have continued beyond 2004.

44. Since August 2008, Iran has declined to discuss the above issues with the Agency or to provide any further information and access (to locations and/or people) to address these concerns, asserting that the allegations relating to possible military dimensions to its nuclear programme are baseless and that the information to which the Agency is referring is based on forgeries.

45. With the passage of time and the possible deterioration in the availability of information, it is important that Iran engage with the Agency on these issues, and that the Agency be permitted to visit all relevant sites, have access to all relevant equipment and documentation, and be allowed to interview relevant persons, without further delay. Iran’s substantive engagement would enable the Agency to make progress in its work. Through Iran’s active cooperation, progress has been made in the past in certain other areas where questions have been raised; this should also be possible in connection with questions about military related dimensions.
F. Summary

46. While the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran, Iran has not provided the necessary cooperation to permit the Agency to confirm that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.

47. Iran is not implementing the requirements contained in the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, including implementation of the Additional Protocol, which are essential to building confidence in the exclusively peaceful purpose of its nuclear programme and to resolve outstanding questions. In particular, Iran needs to cooperate in clarifying outstanding issues which give rise to concerns about possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme, and to
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implement the modified text of Code 3.1 of the Subsidiary Arrangements General Part on the early
provision of design information.

48. Contrary to the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has continued with the operation of PFEP and FEP at Natanz, and the construction of a new enrichment plant at Fordow. Iran has also announced the intention to build ten new enrichment plants. Iran recently began feeding low enriched UF6 produced at FEP into one cascade of PFEP with the aim of enriching it up to 20% in U-235. The period of notice provided by Iran regarding related changes made to PFEP was insufficient for the Agency to adjust the existing safeguards procedures before Iran started to feed the material into PFEP. The Agency’s work to verify FFEP and to understand the original purpose of the facility and the chronology of its design and construction remain ongoing. Iran is not providing access to information such as the original design documentation for FFEP or access to companies involved in the design and construction of the plant.

49. Contrary to the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has also continued with the construction of the IR-40 reactor and related heavy water activities. The Agency has not been permitted to take samples of the heavy water which is stored at UCF, and has not been provided with access to the Heavy Water Production Plant.

50. The Director General requests Iran to take steps towards the full implementation of its Safeguards Agreement and its other obligations, including the implementation of its Additional Protocol.
51. The Director General will continue to report as appropriate.



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