Defining "BE PREPARED" - An ATS Survival Kit?

ATS might as well be nicknamed the true champion of doomsday scenarios. Therefore, I ask all members to begind drafting what I would logically see a must have survival kit. So here is a question to all of you:

How do we prepare?

[Please include items per person including duration for the stockpiles to last, location changes (if you consider necessary), any mandatory actions to be taken by each individual, etc. etc.]

The LDS Prepardness Manual is a good read.
www.abysmal.com...

For survival skills and prepping, search Youtube, there are many great videos on survival
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Danjya


me and my fiancee each have a similar bag with similar supplies.

Bug out Bag- remington camo pack (internal frame)
bug out pack- remington camo "fanny pack"
sleeping bag/ thin warm blanket
small section of tarp 6'x 8'
2 gallons of fresh water
vitamins, carbs in a can.
5 MREs, lots of mac n cheese, some canned fruit, top ramen, dried food etc.- enough for 1.5 weeks 3 meals a day.
full field surgeon kit- neccessities for critical first aid/ minor surgery
mess kit- pan,pot,cups, fork,spoon,knife etc.
collapsible fishing pole, hooks, line, sinkers, slamon eggs, artifical bate
full camo fatigues/ ghilly suit/ good boots/ tennis shoes
2x extra change of clothes
5x socks
hand crank radio
machette, small axe,small shovel, demolishing hammer (good for all purposes)
Winchester 1200 12 ga shotgun- 50 rds #7 bird shot, 100 rds 00 buckshot, 100 rds .70 cal rifled slugs (heaviest things in bug out bag)
fiancee carries the ruger 10/22, extended mags, 1500 rds of various .22LR
flashlights/ LED lantern
firestarting fluid
water purification tabs
extra batteries
100ft of rope
binoculars
50 extra nails (never know what youll need to build)
good sharp knifes- boowie, filet, swiss army, leatherman tool, steak knife, and a butter knife are all in my BOB.
sewing kit, some aluminum foil, plastic bags (large trash bags), and a couple rain ponchos

this is pretty much EVERYTHING i have in my BOB. i know im forgetting stuff. my bag weighs 58lbs exactly, fully loaded (not icluding firearms).

my fiancees bag weighs in right at 40lbs.

I think a good start would be setting up a BoB..

It should contain at least 3 liters of water..
Some kind of water purification system.. Link
A collapsible water bottle (for extra water)
For food pack high calorie energy bars.. (these will take up the least amount of room)
Extra clothes
Extra pair of boots
Some type of tent or tarp
a well put together first aid kit
matches
Solar flashlights
A crank radio
A good weapon
A swiss army knife
A compass

These are just the basics.. I'm sure there is a lot i'm leaving out..

EDIT: WJ beat me to it..

reply to post by Danjya


1. Me

2. My house

3. My friends

4. Weapons:

-----1. Sharp pointy objects

-----2. Guns

-----3. Bats/ pipes

-----4. Throwing Knives

5. Entertainment:

-----1. TV

-----2. Netflix

-----3. Books

-----4. Computer with ATS on it

6. Food:

-----1. Oreos

-----2. Bread

-----3. Condiments

-----4. Pepperoni, cheese etc.

Not much, but I'll survive

reply to post by xShadow13


Your survival is not very probable in a SHTF scenario..

no, hes got it covered... he'll be on ATS

Originally posted by Danjya

How do we prepare?

The very first thing you need to do is come to terms with your own mortality.
Realize that there is only so much you can do, but, do it.
Mental preparedness is the first step.
It is all in the mind.

There is no point in preparing for anything if your head isn't in the game.
Are you prepared to take the ridicule from friends and family once they find out what you're doing?

Are you brave enough to do what you know needs to be done even though everyone else seems to be content
watching American Idol?

Are you serious enough to make sacrifices or is this just going to be a very casual affair?

You must train the way you'll fight
because you WILL fight the way you were trained.

You will only get out of it what you put into it.

i would also suggest finding a good remote location to bury things when SHTF. it will cut your carrying weight WAY down. and you can also stash a lot of food, ammo, etc. for later.

my survival method is simply staying hidden 24/7, hunting large and small game in my area (lots of deer, rabbit, squirrel, etc.) plenty of streams to fish and a few select wild fruit and vegetable (onions, berries)

i will relocate every week or so. my shelter is a 5' x 7' hole dug down 2 - 3 ft. next to large trees. the shelter has a fire pit which channels the smoke into a vent that dampens smoke a little.

i may also ad a lightweight hammock to my bug out bag.

Originally posted by WJjeeper
no, hes got it covered... he'll be on ATS

No electricity = no ATS

EDIT TO ADD: You need to be more prepared then this.. Assume the worst..So you can be prepared for your best.

reply to post by TechVampyre


if you were a TRUE survivalist you would have a generator and satellite internet... wait, i dont have either of those

eveyone on ATS would be more worried about whats happening across the world than actually getting the hell out of dodge.

reply to post by WJjeeper


i would also suggest finding a good remote location to bury things when SHTF. it will cut your carrying weight WAY down. and you can also stash a lot of food, ammo, etc. for later.

With the amount your carrying it will need to be a big hole (joke) just incase you dont have a sense of humour

On a serious note though what would I do when TSHTF, I am in london what do I dine out on when the dry stuff has run out rats and pigeons?

Originally posted by WJjeeper
reply to post by TechVampyre

 

if you were a TRUE survivalist you would have a generator and satellite internet... wait, i dont have either of those

eveyone on ATS would be more worried about whats happening across the world than actually getting the hell out of dodge.

HAHA, Thanks for the good laugh. But seriously..If we could find away to archive ATS for off-line use..This would be great..

And a ipad would be more acceptable if you wanted to pack it in a BoB.. Even if the net is useless, I'm sure The Ipad, Or something similar would still be useful..

Originally posted by TechVampyre

Originally posted by WJjeeper
reply to post by TechVampyre

 

if you were a TRUE survivalist you would have a generator and satellite internet... wait, i dont have either of those

eveyone on ATS would be more worried about whats happening across the world than actually getting the hell out of dodge.

HAHA, Thanks for the good laugh.

But seriously..If we could find away to archive ATS for off-line use..This would be great..

And a ipad would be more acceptable if you wanted to pack it in a BoB.. Even if the net is useless, I'm sure The Ipad, Or something similar would still be useful..

im one of those wierd paranoid survivalists, anything with a microchip in it gets thrown. im hesitant to even bring my crank radio simply because the radio frequency can be traced within 5 miles or so.when i run, its just me and a few select people that i have known 2/3 of my life. (8 - 10 MAX)

if there is a large group of people, break up into groups of 4 and fan out 1 square mile from eachother. this will keep heat signature down and trace of humans to a minimum. when im walking through the woods i can tell if someone has walked in the same general direction within th elast week or so... im no expert either. im 19 years old and have been a survivalist since the age of 11, i have dedicated thousands of hours of exploration and training time in the harsh wildernesses of the northwestern united states.

Originally posted by restless genius
reply to post by WJjeeper

 

i would also suggest finding a good remote location to bury things when SHTF. it will cut your carrying weight WAY down. and you can also stash a lot of food, ammo, etc. for later.

With the amount your carrying it will need to be a big hole (joke) just incase you dont have a sense of humour

On a serious note though what would I do when TSHTF, I am in london what do I dine out on when the dry stuff has run out rats and pigeons?

I should rephrase, i have a SOB (stay out bag), if my theory is correct you wont be wanting to come back to civilization... until everything blows over. since your in london i would recommend getting the # out of there go to the woods, your primal instincts will kick in. get good at fishing, and swimming (youll be heading for france real fast).

since you cant buy guns, start figuring out how to make the most devastating weapons you can from household items. try to keep your weapon arsenal lightweight. thats the one problem with a 12ga... ammo is heavy as hell. however, it is the most versatile weapon you can get... therefore, the best for a survival situation. i love being able to pump a slug that blows a hole the size of my fist in things (accurate to 150yds), use 00 buck for spray and pray- close range combat, and birdshot for hunting small game. can you buy ammo in london/U.K.?

I'm gonna say this ONCE.

If you rely on a BOB or bag of supplies to get you through a crisis you're as good as DEAD !

Best thing is to learn Real survival skills that teach you how to use what you find around you to survive. This includes making make shift tools if need be. Yes, try to keep a bag of supplies with you at all times but don't rely on it solely to save you because it may not always be there. It could get lost or stolen, or the contents used up.

I LOVE the new tv shows that show you how to survive like Man vs Wild, Man Woman Wild, and all the rest.. I'm starting to collect those along with books, army survival manuals and the books those tv show guys above have written.

As a southerner I have been hunting and fishing all my life. After you watch enough of those tv shows you realize basic survival is not that hard.. not much to it.. just the basics stated different ways with tricks and tips. The main things are making shelter, finding food and water, knowing what to eat drink and what not to, making fire, protecting yourself from harmful animals, using what you have around you for these things and making first aid. After you know how to do each of these things 5 or 6 different ways, in different climates you have a good change to survive in the wild.

I say keep the info in your head.. obviously you cannot carry around tons of books on the lamb. Prepare and only carry what you must have. I don't see the need to sell everything you have as you cannot carry so much survival equipment with you and money may not be useful - but make sure you do have good supplies on hand in case you need to flee. Many of your survival tools will be found as you travel so don't over do it. Think practical and carry what you need to survive each day as it comes. I think in most cases when TSHIF survival on your own will be temporary. People are strong, they will band together and rebuild and start a new life. (Unless a nuke goes off and you cannot prepare for that anyway)

Originally posted by xShadow13
reply to post by Danjya

 

1. Me

2. My house

3. My friends

4. Weapons:

-----1. Sharp pointy objects

-----2. Guns

-----3. Bats/ pipes

-----4. Throwing Knives

Not much, but I'll survive

NWO death squad would have you taken over in less than 2 minutes-



im not even looking forward to fighting these guys... (just a crazy picture i saw on the net, thought it was a good representation of a NWO death squad soldier throwing a grenade in your house, while your sleeping... it goes boom and he watches your leg fly out the window)

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I'm gonna say this ONCE.

If you rely on a BOB or bag of supplies to get you through a crisis you're as good as DEAD !

Best thing is to learn Real survival skills that teach you how to use what you find around you to survive. This includes making make shift tools if need be. Yes, try to keep a bag of supplies with you at all times but don't rely on it solely to save you because it may not always be there. It could get lost or stolen, or the contents used up.

I LOVE the new tv shows that show you how to survive like Man vs Wild, Man Woman Wild, and all the rest.. I'm starting to collect those along with books, army survival manuals and the books those tv show guys above have written.

As a southerner I have been hunting and fishing all my life. After you watch enough of those tv shows you realize basic survival is not that hard.. not much to it.. just the basics stated different ways with tricks and tips. The main things are making shelter, finding food and water, knowing what to eat drink and what not to, making fire, protecting yourself from harmful animals, using what you have around you for these things and making first aid. After you know how to do each of these things 5 or 6 different ways, in different climates you have a good change to survive in the wild.

I say keep the info in your head.. obviously you cannot carry around tons of books on the lamb. Prepare and only carry what you must have. I don't see the need to sell everything you have as you cannot carry so much survival equipment with you and money may not be useful - but make sure you do have good supplies on hand in case you need to flee. Many of your survival tools will be found as you travel so don't over do it. Think practical and carry what you need to survive each day as it comes. I think in most cases when TSHIF survival on your own will be temporary. People are strong, they will band together and rebuild and start a new life. (Unless a nuke goes off and you cannot prepare for that anyway)

do you know how to make a conical percussion in obsidian to get an arrowhead with a fluted tip? hmmm, i could teach you... but my tools might et in the way. have you ever tried to take care of a family with nothing? its not very easy.

edit- ive never watched a BS survival show in my life.

So it seems that within the post-doomsday scenario there is one unspoken factor. Are you saying that humans will be hunted? The numbers will already be very small. Hunting humans would take huge resources in place.

So maybe we didn't define the event that leads to the post-doomsday era. Is it a nuclear event? A meteorite? WWIII?

All of these factors bring variable contamination issues - air, soil, water, food supplies - including your own stash.

Pollution might kill any game in the forest before you get to it. It is safe to assume that a world-wide cataclysm (man-made or not) will not only affect humans, but everything else as well. Except for a biological weapon designed to kill humans, aka a virus.

So top factors would be: 1 - radioactive pollution, 2 - ice-age like temperatures, and/or 3 - a virus with no known or widely distributed antidote.

How would preparation look like in these cases?

Originally posted by WJjeeper

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I'm gonna say this ONCE.

If you rely on a BOB or bag of supplies to get you through a crisis you're as good as DEAD !

Best thing is to learn Real survival skills that teach you how to use what you find around you to survive. This includes making make shift tools if need be. Yes, try to keep a bag of supplies with you at all times but don't rely on it solely to save you because it may not always be there. It could get lost or stolen, or the contents used up. -Snip-

do you know how to make a conical percussion in obsidian to get an arrowhead with a fluted tip? hmmm, i could teach you... but my tools might et in the way. have you ever tried to take care of a family with nothing? its not very easy.

edit- ive never watched a BS survival show in my life.

edit on 27-3-2011 by WJjeeper because: (no reason given)

YES !

I have actually seen arrow making from obsidian in those tv shows. Er.. If you have never seen one of those shows.. How do you know they are BS? I think you jumped to a conclusion without any facts.

I didn't say it would be easy. I'm saying learning the techniques are not very hard.