HARRP causes Japans 9.0 w/Proof???

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Which is why I started with "FWIW", knowing full well you wouldn't accept it.

It seems that you're happy to blindly believe what someone wrote on a blog though, so...good for you.

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In this post, you sneer at the idea that true information can be found at the HAARP site.
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In this post, you use info from the HAARP site to support your argument.

You do see how silly that is, don't you?

Originally posted by subject x

Originally posted by Tecumte
If this is true...

That's a pretty big "if" there. I would have to say it's not true at all. You source is long on speculation, short on science. If you could show me some actual, scientific evidence that it can do any of this, I'd be happy to look at it. Until such time, I have to go with BS.

Well, obviously like you I am researching as well, I'm simply responding to your 5watt lightbulb comment. Not to unfairly put it back on you but where in the world did you come up with that? By your comment I assumed you were already familiar with the research, no offense but the way you posted made it sound like you knew for sure.

Just a gut feeling, and I plan to look more into it, but I would have to speculate, and I think reasonably so, that these multi-multi- million dollar investments, and so many advertsied as being parked all over the country and much of the world, especially the one we saw out on the ocean platform that reportedly gets escorted around by a fleet of warships are able to do a bit more weapons wise than power a 5 watt bulb. Just a hunch.

That's a great article sweetheart BUT... your threads ? Leave much to be desired in the op. Do you realise and I know a mod should be telling you this BUT.... There is a standard at ATS that one liners with links and/or vids?
Just do not adhere to. Please, in the the nicest way I can ask ? Don't be shy? Tear off your cap and give us some substance from what is you. It is what matters in your thread as much as the story it is about. You bring it forward So your opinion and your insights matter to us as much as the story. I hope this helps.

With respect. Randyvious

Originally posted by tracehd1
omg ATS'ers... most probably already knew it.. is this proof???

HARRP causes Japans 9.0 Proof

OMG!!!!! UFO Blogger
say no more

EDIT: Chadwickus

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No...? we're looking at Data and collecting data off their own site that proves our point? Such as the Graph... right?

geezz U guy's... I guess the point I'm trying to make is this... You have you're idea's.. I have mine... we come together to throw those ideas in the pot. I can get facts straight from the horses mouth if it supports my claim. I may not be right. We have to examine everything. I don't agree with CHAD's assessment or facts..because I have gone to the same site and found my own set of facts that may support my claim. For anyone to act as if I'm an idiot for posting this is ridiculous. I thought I was doing exactly what ATS is here for... presenting facts and ideas.

Chad made it quite apparent that me, starting this HARRP thread was ridiculous. My evidence or what I thought to be evidence or could be evidence doesn't amount to beans because he's studied it relentlessly? come on now...

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I apologize for starting this thread.. your right. I will go back to reading the rules... I just thought this was great info.

thanks for the headsUP.

I don't know how to find a Staff Member to take this Thread down and all the S&F's I got with it.. (there's not much..probably from the same people that don't know the rules like we should)

I was wondering if you could find a Staff Member for me to take it down? thanks

Originally posted by tracehd1
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I apologize for starting this thread.. your right. I will go back to reading the rules... I just thought this was great info.

thanks for the headsUP.

I don't know how to find a Staff Member to take this Thread down and all the S&F's I got with it.. (there's not much..probably from the same people that don't know the rules like we should)

I was wondering if you could find a Staff Member for me to take it down? thanks

edit on 26-3-2011 by tracehd1 because: requesting thread to be taken down.. I have broken all rules in participating

You have in know way, put up a thread comparable to some my bombs lady. Don't be discouraged, cause you have some fight in you that's obvious. And attractive. IMO.

Randyvious

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Why would you want to take this thread down, I commend you on posting it, and I would say never be deterred by others who see things differently, there are many motives out there as to why people try and steer you away from your quest. (not always from the best of intentions).

I think already if you look back through this thread there has been some good info surface in the exchanges that might not have come to light for the participants or any happenstance readers had you not posted it, and too it's YOUR thread so I would say if YOU like it and find it useful that's good enough. (look how many 'disinterested' people showed 'interest' too lol)

Also, I think the info of the magnetometer is absolutely worth looking at, in fact I saw it posted and discussed on George Ure's urbansurvival site and I would imagine it's being discusssed on others as well. Ignore the naysayers and any trolls, and use their naysayings and distractions as fuel to further the search.

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I thot the earthquake was at 02:45 UTC on the 11th? But the same frequency is there at that time (before and after).

Almost everytime when I look at haarp site there's around 2,4 - 2,5 Hz. Maybe not such clear. This frequency is worth of little more brainwave research.Where is it comming from? What I have found - it' is used to - sexual stimulation (few times), and it can cause mind confusion.
Can EQ cause this frequency in ionosphere (measurable by haarp)?

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well Im sure glad we have an expert on Haarp amongst us. Boy I never knew you were the designer of it. Quite impressive that you designed Haarp, and still have time to grace us with your presence

since you say it hasn't the ability the cause the quake, I'm sure we'll all sleep better.

personally I am unsure (key word) Haarp caused the quake. But "never let a good crisis go to waste" and "order out of chaos" leads me to think that the nuke disaster may have been sabotage by some group, since the quake would give perfect cover.

As there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly what a magnetometer actually measures I have posted a wiki link to a general definiton and descriptive uses to try and get a better handle on it:

en.wikipedia.org...

NASA researchers say they have found a close link between "Electrical Disturbances On The Edge Of Our Atmosphere" and impending quakes on the ground below.

Source - BBC.CO.UK

Just such a signal was spotted in the days leading up to the devastating event in China.



Spacequake :

According to NASA, researchers by using NASA's fleet of five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a form of space weather that packs the punch of an earthquake and plays a key role in sparking bright Northern Lights. They call it "the spacequake."

A spacequake is a temblor in Earth's magnetic field. It is felt most strongly in Earth orbit, but is not exclusive to space. The effects can reach all the way down to the surface of Earth itself.

"Magnetic reverberations have been detected at ground stations all around the globe, much like seismic detectors measure a large earthquake," says THEMIS principal investigator Vassilis Angelopoulos of UCLA.

It's an apt analogy because "the total energy in a spacequake can rival that of a magnitude 5 or 6 earthquake," according to Evgeny Panov of the Space Research Institute in Austria. Panov is first author of a paper reporting the results in the April 2010 issue of Geophysical Research Letters (GRL).

In general, Earth's magnetic field lines can be thought of as rubber bands stretched taut by the solar wind, which is actually charged particles flowing in all directions from the sun, said study co-author Vassilis Angelopoulos, a space physicist at the University of California, Los Angeles



Source - NASA





Note : HAARP do the exact samething to our atmosphere as well, it heated up the ionosphere and changes the shape of the ionosphere, allowing for beamed energy to be concentrated on a known spot.


Conclusion : Solar Flare & HAARP both can cause Earthquake..

Originally posted by Tecumte
Well, obviously like you I am researching as well, I'm simply responding to your 5watt lightbulb comment. Not to unfairly put it back on you but where in the world did you come up with that? By your comment I assumed you were already familiar with the research, no offense but the way you posted made it sound like you knew for sure.

I came up with it here:

ELF signals generated by the HAARP heater are also simultaneously observed at a nearby ground‐based site, allowing a comparison of the ELF power in the Earth‐ionosphere waveguide versus that detected on DEMETER. The estimated values of power onboard DEMETER at different frequencies range from 0.32W to 4W, while the values of power estimated from a ground receiver at a distance of 36 km from HAARP range from 2.71W to 4.22W.

source

Originally posted by subject x

Originally posted by Tecumte
Well, obviously like you I am researching as well, I'm simply responding to your 5watt lightbulb comment. Not to unfairly put it back on you but where in the world did you come up with that? By your comment I assumed you were already familiar with the research, no offense but the way you posted made it sound like you knew for sure.

I came up with it here:

ELF signals generated by the HAARP heater are also simultaneously observed at a nearby ground‐based site, allowing a comparison of the ELF power in the Earth‐ionosphere waveguide versus that detected on DEMETER. The estimated values of power onboard DEMETER at different frequencies range from 0.32W to 4W, while the values of power estimated from a ground receiver at a distance of 36 km from HAARP range from 2.71W to 4.22W.

source

Couldn't get your link to work (been having alot of trouble with that lately, hmmm) even went to google to plug in, all AGU links were non working for the moment, but it looks like info from American Geophysical Union. Wonder how they made their "estimate" exactly and exactly what it means in reality vs just guesstimation. Does it account for gw energy stored in the ionosphere and then bounced back, under what time frame, we really have little way of knowing exactly under what perameters this guess was made.

Anyone can 'estimate' anything and for whatever reason, without knowing under what conditions the guess applies (least possible set of energy parameters, shortest duration) we could have that as the very lowest point on the range and perhaps millions or even billions of times higher on the upper end. I find that figure not very useful all in all. I highly still suspect the DODs (and others ) multi-multi million dollar multiple systems reported to have gigawatt capacity working in unison have a FAR greater capacity, it seems only logical to me.

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Well the post started off well enough, although I don't see a link between spacequakes and earthquakes, what's the link?

I would have left out the second youtube video too, billions on watts?

Where does that figure come from?

And then they closed with the Norway spiral, a failed rocket launch, not HAARP (EISCAT).

"And then they closed with the Norway spiral, a failed rocket launch, not HAARP (EISCAT)." -CW

Are you saying that you truly believe or disbelive that the Norway spiral was a 'failed rocket launch'.

If the former, I have trouble understanding, no matter how much sophistry used in the 'official' denial, that anyone could believe that? I would say a much more rational explantion was that it was generated by use of EISCAT (or similar tech). The picture was clearly IMO a vortex, anyone who works with vortexers I would have to think would immediately recognize the virtually unmistakable double pole pattern emminating from the center.

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awww..tyvm... My cheeks are blushing... haha... I really appreciate the comment. Sometimes I let things get to me to much... but.. I guess that's a true sign I care...

again..ty xo

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You know what .. you're right. I apologize for getting all... *little girl* on everyone. I do understand the rules, and I do understand what that guy was saying. However: there wasn't much to say for me concerning the graph because I needed answer's for it and what you guy's thought.

You know what...? You made me feel 100% better. It's rare these days that I find people compassionate instead of trying to 1UP each other all the time. Maybe that's why we're where we're at right now... We forgot there is no I in team. I know we're not perfect.. but geezzzzzzzzzzzzz Everyone's offended if you look at them with your 1 good eye.............(lol)

Again.. ty it does mean a lot to me..xoxo