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Perhaps Nibiru/Planet X IS travelling faster than the speed of light... (just a theory with some bac

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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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Do you know how science works? More importantly scientific evaluation?

You do not prove things to be impossible, but prove things to be possible.


Scientific Method



Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[1] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning

Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methods of obtaining knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable



So in keeping with scientific practice, prove your theory... if your theory is possible there will be supporting facts to back it up.

It doesn't work the other way around
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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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I am not interested in proving it, I already know I will not be able to. That is why its called a theory. And I have already stated that I am speculating. But you have not swayed either side, so you are more useless then the speculation itself.



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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There is a Planet called JumJackaMoBaka, it is coming to Earth in 2016 on the 3rd of March[03] at 3:00PM.

2+0+1 +3PM = 6
2016 = 6
3rd + 3(mnth) = 6

The JumJackaMoBaka Planet is the Devils vessel and if you research the bible you can find all the information about in there but it is hidden in code. It is coming, and that is when the end will be.

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Please show me that this is false. By the way TPTB have been covering up JumJakaMoBaka for over a thousand years. If you don't find anything it doesn't prove anything. And people lied to you about Nibiru to cover up JJMB.



There are no Nibiru believers that can tell me my hypothesis is wrong or invalid. Because this is essentially what the Nibiru argument is, so have fun proving JJMB doesn't exist, or maybe just go make a thread about the end of the world in 2016.



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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Ghandi
I am not interested in proving it, I already know I will not be able to. That is why its called a theory.


All good theories have sound reasoning and facts to back up the claim, what you are presenting is a hypothesis, there is a big difference between the two.

If your not interested in proving your "theory" surely that say's something no? That you know it acnnot be proved and therefore is total bunk.


And I have already stated that I am speculating. But you have not swayed either side, so you are more useless then the speculation itself.


I am not here to sway either side of the argument, all I am doing is presenting my opinion on the matter, which I believe I have made quite clear.

I'm useless? haha, do I sense some hostility here?



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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Crazy They aren't OUR laws of physics, they are THE laws of physics.


How can you say this? Have you been to where Nibiru lies in space, and scientifically tested the laws of physics there? You are going by Earth's laws of physics, and no one knows what these laws are, or how they may work in other sectors in the Universe. The theory postulated by the OP is sound, but it is only a theory, after all.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
How can you say this?


I can say it quite easily, Niburu is NOT real, I think what I say and then I type it on the keyboard



Have you been to where Nibiru lies in space, and scientifically tested the laws of physics there?


No and I don't need to, according to the Niburu "theory" it lies within our solar system and travels further into our solar system every 3600 years, Niburu believers say it will be here in 2012, next year, it was also said that we will be able to see Niburu in early 2011, yet we do not see it!

As I have previously stated the gravitational effects alone would be visible, it would massively puturb the orbits of the planets, not to mention the asteroid belt, we would be absoloutly pummeled by asteroid right NOW, I don't see this happening,

Do you really think that the laws of physics drastically alter at the edge of the solar system?

We have sent out spacecraft throughout our solar system, if our current understanding of physics wasn't sound then precision spaceflight would not be possible!


going by Earth's laws of physics, and no one knows what these laws are, or how they may work in other sectors in the Universe.


Are you seriously saying that earth has it's own set our the laws of physics and the rest of the solar system and universe uses different laws of physics? Do you know how proposturous this sounds?

It is ONLY our understanding of the laws of physics that change, the laws of physics are universal and are constant.


The theory postulated by the OP is sound, but it is only a theory, after all


No it is not, this "theory" is full of holes and it cannot even be called a theory as the OP has not actually set out a theory, only a hypothesis has been set out, so how can it be sound if there are no facts to back up what is being said?



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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So your entire argument is that I have stated a hypothesis and not a theory.

Then I agree, by definition a hypothesis would fit better for the general population, however there are those that could call this a theory, should they choose to believe the facts presented and do not require additional information for they have already read enough that the "holes" can be overlooked in some cases.

Next time ill be sure to use better words so you can understand. But perhaps remember that not everyone on here has English as a first language. And other things, go without saying.

No where does my thread say to PANIC and RUN because NIBIRIU IS DEFIANTLY TRAVELLING AT LIGHT SPEED TOWARDS US.

This thread was made for "out of the box" thinkers.

But until you can prove it wrong, it isn't wrong, and it also, it isn't right until I can prove it right. Beauty of this particular scenario is we will know soon enough. And until then I'm not worried about it, weather it is or is not coming is irrelevant, my life still works the same.




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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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So your entire argument is that I have stated a hypothesis and not a theory.


No not at all, that is only part of what I am saying, the main problem I have is the fallacies that your hypothesis has.



Then I agree, by definition a hypothesis would fit better for the general population, however there are those that could call this a theory, should they choose to believe the facts presented and do not require additional information for they have already read enough that the "holes" can be overlooked in some cases.


But the thing is you haven't actually presented any facts, only a few loose idea's you talk about tachyons and wormholes but you don't peice together your hypothesis with any logic.


This thread was made for "out of the box" thinkers.


Are some how trying to say that I do not qualify as an out the box thinker just because I am expecting some kind of logic?



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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I had an interesting theory pop into my head last week, what if the incoming object is interdimensional, and we can not see the physical object but feel the effects through a universal process related to Quantum mechanics. I will admit I am not well versed on QM but is on my bucket list of research items.
S&F

Cheers



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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If your interested in finding the logic, then look for it. Maybe it is there, maybe it isn't. Even if the possibility is 1 in a trillion, its still not IMpossible. thats all I am saying.

For me, things like this are just cool to think about. Not necessarily need to be proven or dis proven. Perhaps one day, I will see more information that will completely disprove it or maybe even shove it in the the direction of plausible. I do not know, therefore I made a thread about it to see what other people thought. You have not provided anything other then "Blah blah blah, your stupid, blah blah blah". Which doesn't help at all.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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I was also thinking along the same lines when I started looking into wormholes. I see the plausibility of inter-dimensions so why cant a planet travel through dimension?

Generally speaking everything when first thought turns out to be far more complicated or far more simple then anyone ever imagined. Perhaps Nibiru will be the same. Or perhaps it will be non-existent. Who knows, but it is fun to think about and I'm glad someone shares that with me



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