Alchemy and The Philosopher's Stone is Real

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt
For the alchemist of the Middle Ages, typically a Christian, the transforming power he held was nothing less than the power as found in Genesis.

Genesis 1 - The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the void.

The fundamental information of reality is the basis for creation and creation iss the alchemist’s power. He literally walks with and in the hand of God.

The Egyptian alchemist saw this power in a similar fashion as the creation of something from nothing…where nothing was never zero but the undeveloped material from which everything sprang.

My guess is since sign00 has forecast the End Of Times, the destruction of everything...like you say, we are bumping around in Limbo like a bunch of a**clowns, that he will recreate the world for us. Surely so, would he be so cruel, so despicably and unspeakably evil, as to freely, willingly and purposefully initiate the demolition of matter and spirit without a Plan B?

I ask you?

Man, I dunno, something ain't right here and if my choice is to shoot myself now or trust some egomaniacal loser to have a Plan B after he turns our everything into a void of bottomless nothingness...where's the gun.

Originally posted by WillowToad

Man, I dunno, something ain't right here and if my choice is to shoot myself now or trust some egomaniacal loser to have a Plan B after he turns our everything into a void of bottomless nothingness...where's the gun.

I agree, every known maker of the Stone who is worth following is not anonymous like sign00. Take for instance the Inglese's who made the Stone (yeah I know sign00 said it has been 300 years but WTH is a few hundred decades between friends anyway?) in the 1920ish. Local folk too!

Alchemist Team Inglese

Except for one problem. Minor detail.

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Okay, I'm calling on the Mods for help here. Come on, please clean up this thread, for those of us who honestly want to learn!

One of the trolls is a PROVEN plagiarizer and the other is just riding his coat-tail. Neither of them are offering anything to the discussion.

I don't want to stoop to their level, but they leave me no choice... get ready for pwnage round 2.

Everything that I have learned about being a decent and upstanding member of ATS I have had to learn the hard way. I will give an example in a moment.

One of the things that I learned the hard way is that when I begin to experience a particular level and quality of frustration, that I have found is peculiar to ATS, I have to back off and just let God. I realize that there is something at work that I do not understand and last time I rushed in to see what it was I found a room full of moderators doing their just work. And got spanked.

This is probably one of those occasions. But I will have my final say.

I am viciously protective of this thread because it has been a life changer for me. You see, on ATS we are here to learn. Some of us come here thinking we have something to teach, but it is only ever to be taught on ATSs own mysterious terms and it never comes out the way that those folks think it will. ATS is like that for those that survive, you learn that you are here to learn, and you do it quick. Only rarely does a teacher come fully fleshed into the Twilight Realm of Above Top Secret. So I am very territorial about the threads I love and I am sorry to see such a patent case of trolling, Team Trolling, for that matter, the likes of which I have never experienced here.

That being said (we love to say that here)…

You may have noticed that this thread is still here. Could it be because Sign00s OP and other contributions are of such high caliber and are so exciting to participate in that we think of him as our own? I think so.

Frank? You seemed to have a lot to offer. Don’t you think if you had done things differently that we would have embraced you as well? Your experience here would have been so much different. For instance, we all would be surely pleased by an MKUltra thread form you. There is something in you that I like and that warms my heart, I know that you dig me, too. It’s not too late to admit that you are plagiarizing know it all and make friends. I will show you a thread where I had to do the same. I was lucky I was not banned and I am lucky that I did not get a visit from guys in suits from “New Jersey”…

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Because you see, Frank, and by default your wormtoungue-like friend WillowToad, I have handed you your head.

Your credibility on this thread has been destroyed by me and All Ur Base Are Belong To Us. Get it.

Don’t make me repost the post. I am clever and can do it without cross posting.

You two are like the losing side of a basketball team that refuses to leave the court. The spectators are all staring at you as you whoop and holler and dribble and shoot….

And miss.

So why not fess up, cut the crap, and try to make friends with the rest of us that are trying to figure this out. And we will all have a Merry Christmas.

Because we have all seen your kind of Dames meets Hoaglandesque dog and pony show before, Frank, you are starting to also remind me of Michael Aquino, You don’t want to be thought of as Michael Aquino, do you?

Originally posted by sign00
I'm getting in trouble with the moderators, since it's against the terms of the forums to advertise, and they interpret this as what I'm doing. I've already been banned, and then managed to convince them to let me back in. Now I'm no longer allowed to talk about the book.

So maybe we should move the conversation to another temporary forum.

I sure am glad things worked out for you!

reply to post by sign00


For years and years, I have been searching for the means of immortality. It was always my dream to conquer death. All the people I have told this called me stupid 'for death is something you can not evade.' And now, there's a book of it! Well, better not be hokum.

To those who claim I one forged.

I shall admit that I failed to use quotation marks and I would gladly return and correct my error but the time has ended for me to edit it.

To quote another famous poster here who suffered a more terrible fate than I, an out and out attempt at deception

The initial reason for my posting this thread was to be able to see people's reaction to it first hand, in which it was a success. This is the reason for the lie. Then when that was established I thought it would be interesting to see how people would react to knowing they were speaking to the author. This also was successful, and lead to me being now open to talking and answering people's questions. So it was all a good thing.

So, like him, sign00, it is now all a good thing.

Thank you and best wishes, see my sig for my stance on addressing questions.


Frank

Originally posted by Narcissous
reply to post by sign00

 

For years and years, I have been searching for the means of immortality. It was always my dream to conquer death. All the people I have told this called me stupid 'for death is something you can not evade.' And now, there's a book of it! Well, better not be hokum.

Great luck in your adventure, may your wallet lighten and your years in fruitless toil fly by.

ATTENTION ALL

That will do thank you. Let's try and stay focused and let's not troll or feed the trolls.

Originally posted by Gemwolf
ATTENTION ALL

That will do thank you. Let's try and stay focused and let's not troll or feed the trolls.

but the book's methods are exactly the same as "shake and bake" meth production the book has to be trolling.

if you google shake and bake meth and read that and the book's methods it's identical except the book draws it out to sound legit

it's hilarious

So, OP, now that all that is over, I would still be really interested in hearing about what your plans are for fermentation. Have you decided yet?

Hello again,

There were some valid points made, not made very well, but made nonetheless. All of which I have previously answered, many in this thread, but repeating myself has become a common occurance so I will humor you on this one:

Firstly, the concept that the release of the Philosophers' Stone will change the world does not lend to incredibility, that is to say that although a world changing event is unbelievable that does not make it untrue. The fact that it would chance the world as we know it is not evidence against the Stone existing.

Secondly, any intelligent person can see that the release of an item that provides (1) free unlimited health, (2) free unlimited gold/silver, and (3) free unlimited power, would crash our entire civilization. These three: health, gold & energy make up the largest investments. If your money is in a bank, your money is invested in these. With the release of the Stone the stockmarkets (all of them) would immediately fall. Everyone will try to withdraw in a feeble effort to minimize their losses. This will quickly turn into a run on the banks. Any child who has watched Mary Poppins know that banks don't have anywhere near as much money as supposedly in the accounts which makes the bank go bankrupt. This causes people to panic and soon enough all the banks are bankrupt, and probably smashed up and robbed too for good measure. With no banking system all businesses that rely on bank transaction will stop. This includes energy, water and food transportation. Since businesses rely on each other, they will all stop. Everyone will be out of a job. So you know have a world with businesses, no jobs, no money, no energy, no food and no water.

Except the one thing that is left: the Stone. No need for food, no need for jobs, no need for healthcare, no need for money. Although everything is destroyed, it is found that all humans needs are met by a single substance. Meanwhile there are a few other subplots taking place, which will result in various other catastrophies, but the Stone will put an end to it all. A restart.

The end is also the beginning: a group of people who have just learnt that everything they knew and believed is now gone. They begin again in the Garden of Eden (for those who aren't following: the Garden of Eden is the world before it became corrupt, and as it will be again once civilization falls.) This is the Golden Age and the cycle has come around one full spin. It will all happen again in another 26,000 years.

As for me... I'm just trying to do what I can, as I'm sure anyone would do in my position. It is important that the Stone is being made in parallel by numerous people around the world, which is now what is happening. I'm simply attempting to facilitate this.

As for my identity... I find it strange that some people seem to think being anonymous is discrediting. Even if you knew my name you would still not know who I am. The difference between "Anonymous" and "My Name" is only letters - nothing else would change, apart from people being able to contact me. In fact, it would make no sense for me to use my name, as it would only show some kind of want for fame and that would be discrediting.

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Irrespective of what is presented in the Opening post, or follow-up posts we still remain on topic and don't resort to personal attacks. That's the ATS way. Civility.

If you want to discuss the issue with staff members, please use the complaint/Alert feature, or send a moderator a private message. Let's not derail the thread any further.

Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
So, OP, now that all that is over, I would still be really interested in hearing about what your plans are for fermentation. Have you decided yet?

Hi ErroneousDylan,

I don't quite understand your question. At the White Stage the Stone is separated into 3 parts, one to be fermented with silver, one to be kept as unfermented, and one to be raised to the Red Stone. The fermentation process is basically repeating the Second Part except with the addition of pure silver (for the White Stone) or gold (for the Red Stone).

I would love to hear from someone thats already a few months into the process..............


Anyone?