Elenin=Planet X, Nebiru (Mathematical proof)

reply to post by Unity_99


I don't understand what you are saying here. Despite the fact that this object should be visible to the naked eye you want to use a better instrument to view the nonexistent object? Is that the suggestion in this post?

reply to post by lestweforget


gave me a laugh, i do agree.

i hope we don't see a road closed ahead.. because you are very correct in stating how others are not having a fair non-biased chance of investigating this information and discussing the observations we have made so far.

Originally posted by CUin2013?
reply to post by Gab1159

 

You don't know this person very well. He/she never looks at videos, this claim has been made by them since they created an account here.

He/she just likes to argue and try to make others inferior.

Geez I know this character very well, having argued with him countless of times. Isn't it funny that he chooses to ignore evidence that would counter his so called facts? He still did not give his opinion on it.

When you can't counter an argument, discredit the messenger or simply ignore it. Typical.

I'm still happy he debunks so much, he made me a better debater. I thank him for that

EDIT: He might now try to show me how my use of the word "evidence" is oh so wrong!

reply to post by lestweforget


So do you think that if someone approaches the Earth from the South Pole direction all they can see is the South Pole? You're kidding right? If you approach the South Pole then you see half of the Earth. That half can also see you coming. Right?

Infrared is only required when observing objects not reflecting light. Brown dwarfs have been seen in the visible spectrum because of the light cast on their by the stars they orbit.

The only people that claim that I am "derailing" threads are those with an agenda of disinformation that are shown the truth.

It's sad that people have a dislike of facts being injection into a thread.

reply to post by Gab1159

That's really bad, debunking something without even looking at it?

Can you point out specific places in this video where there is something of interest or can you provide a synopsis. My opinion, just mine, is that videos are junk. If there had been anything worth saying it would have been written down. I think videos are a waste of time. I can look over a written document in a minute or watch 15 minutes of junk. I'm sure you too can read much faster than a speaker talks.

Ooops. Sorry read a little down in your post and saw this wonderful synopsis which I read in under 15 seconds. It's well written and saved me loads of time. Much appreciated.

She showed an alignment between Earth and ELEnin, and said she was predicting a massive quake on a fault line on the 11th, 12th or 13th of March. It happened, very close to the ring of fire. But I guess it's a mere coincidence right?

Earth and Elenin are 2 points. Two points form a line. Do you also mean the sun?

That is impossible. Elenin is currently below the ecliptic. Of course alignment is often used in a very lax manner.

Sorry. I need to go find the post with the video. Will watch the first 3 minutes and get back to you.

reply to post by Gab1159


Sorry Gab1159, I am not sure which video this is in reference to. Can you kindly point me to the video or post in question so that I can check out the beginning material.

Cheers

I think this vid might be of interest to MOST of you. Quake watch for the next few days. I keep an eye on what this guy posts.

Why do these bs threads still continue?!

Even if Nasa or Google or governments wanted to hide a planet, it simply WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE!

Withe the millions of amateur astronomers out there it would be spotted and reported in no time. You do realise the huge numbers of comets that are spotted and reported by amateur astronomers right? There is no way for any organisation or 'they' to cover up this fact.

And if you are talking about planets 5 times the size of the Earth?!! Sorry but you might want to do a little research on astronomy before you start making up utter nonsense like this, or why not go one better, go out and by yourself a little £200 telescope and see what you can see with that. You would be able to spot it even with a cheap ass telescope out the window of your living room, now consider the amount of people out there who watch the skies nightly with proper equipment. A planet that size would simply not be able to be hidden by anyone.

Move on with your lives and maybe learn something in the time you waste on this utter BS.

I find this thread very informative. It has already been established that there is "______" located at such and such co-ordinance. Because so little/or the grand scale of the situation is not being spoon fed to us, we do we find ourselves but, right here in the thick of it; those who have eyes that see...

The great unveiling or the awakening.

Interesting that a Mayan elder on youtube was saying that for three days the sun will be invisible. I seen it earlier in a thread here on ATS.

reply to post by loveguy


The OP suggests that Elenin has a mass far greater than that of a comet. Others such as myself point out that there are mistakes in the math and a planet sized object at that distance would be visible to the unaided eye.

What do the Mayans have to do with this? What does a modern claim of some sort of darkness have to do with this?

The terseness of your response did not tie these issues together. Maybe more info would be helpful.

Originally posted by loveguy
I find this thread very informative. It has already been established that there is "______" located at such and such co-ordinance. Because so little/or the grand scale of the situation is not being spoon fed to us, we do we find ourselves but, right here in the thick of it; those who have eyes that see...

The great unveiling or the awakening.

Interesting that a Mayan elder on youtube was saying that for three days the sun will be invisible. I seen it earlier in a thread here on ATS.

Was there a point about the coordinates part of this post?

I am crunching the numbers of the O.P's Formula, I have come to a fatal flaw with it. My Barney calculator has no pi thingy button. So I'm just gonna have to concede and say he is right....probably.

reply to post by CUin2013?


this idiot doesn't even no where new Zealand is! he points to Indonesia ! FFS

19 out of 19 Jupiter - earth oppositions since 1990 have created at least a 7+ magnitude earthquake.

reply to post by 1beerplease


You made me watch! I had to see if this bone read really pointed to Indonesia and he points right to Java and several times. There is no mistaking this blunder. Absolutely hilarious.

I'd also point out that this guy seems to think that the entire Pacific ocean is covered by a single plate.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by loveguy

 

The OP suggests that Elenin has a mass far greater than that of a comet. Others such as myself point out that there are mistakes in the math and a planet sized object at that distance would be visible to the unaided eye.

What do the Mayans have to do with this? What does a modern claim of some sort of darkness have to do with this?

The terseness of your response did not tie these issues together. Maybe more info would be helpful.

edit on 20-3-2011 by stereologist because: Not completed

Thanks for asking.

I just "_______". You don't need to see it or hear it to determine I just----- told you a truth...

A tree in the woods...do you hear it fall?

The item I'm speaking of is black against a back-drop of more black, with little bits of points of light scattered about. We know (points of light) they are there because we see them. Just because this black thing isn't visible without certain optics, doesn't mean it isn't there.

ELENIN I read somewhere was 1.5x the size of Earth.

I'm sorry if I rub you the wrong way, I certainly don't mean to.

Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by loveguy
I find this thread very informative. It has already been established that there is "______" located at such and such co-ordinance. Because so little/or the grand scale of the situation is not being spoon fed to us, we do we find ourselves but, right here in the thick of it; those who have eyes that see...

The great unveiling or the awakening.

Interesting that a Mayan elder on youtube was saying that for three days the sun will be invisible. I seen it earlier in a thread here on ATS.

Was there a point about the coordinates part of this post?

Sorry, I'm not feeling myself lately. Yes, the coordinates of elenin has been established...by NASA

If, on the going away from the sun part of elenin's path is in the same area as the Earth is in the solar system, the sun can be blocked by this big black thing we can't even look at yet to determine it is in fact blocking light from points behind it- as related to perspective at this present hour.

reply to post by Ghost375


SUN & NIBIRU COLLIDE

About a week ago a huge object entered the Sun, it looked bigger than Venus or Mercury.
And it never came out the other side.
So, it not just by passed it but it entered the Sun. Now look.


stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...


Sincerely , puppet00x.

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by Ghost375

 

1) You approximated "t" to be 2 hours. Why, exactly? What happens when you use the actual length of the quake (6 minutes)?

2) The Earth was shifted on its axis by about 3.9 inches (10 cm), not 6 inches.

3) Both the initial and final velocities are 0. Did you halve the time, guess at what maximum velocity the shifting of the Earth's axis reached, and use that to solve for its acceleration? If not, your answer for the measure of the shift's acceleration means nothing. If you did, you still had to guess at the maximum velocity, which, again, leaves you with a completely inapplicable answer.

4) F = ma denotes the force "F" it takes to move an object of mass "m" at acceleration "a". This does not translate into the rotational force. What you should be measuring is torque. If you do this, you will quickly notice that, to account for rotational acceleration in this way, you need a tangential force. This sort of force is not provided by an earthquake - rather, the axial shift is due to a change in momentum (close, but, as they say, no cigar), which causes a crustal displacement. The axis of rotation, itself, doesn't shift.

5) Gravity is a centripetal force, and, for a spherically symmetric body (which approximates the Earth), is perpendicular to the surface. The gravity of an external mass cannot cause an axial shift unless there is some sort of significantly uneven distribution of mass. To suggest that gravity can account for the shift is wrong.
Also, to equate rotational force (which, again, should be torque) with gravity is wrong. They are two completely different things.

Conclusion:
A 1.5-Earth-mass object at Elenin's location does not account for an axial tilt. "How can an earthquake cause an earth shift that requires a force greater than the mass of the earth itself?" It doesn't have to, because your "math" is contrived and full of holes and false assumptions. The earthquake tilted the Earth by causing a shift in the Earth's mass. The force you calculated is wrong...earthquakes regularly and consistently have enough energy to tilt the Earth, and to suggest that this one example is due to some nearby planet is irrational. And, even if a planet did exist where Elenin is claimed to be, it would not be causing the Earth to shift on its axis - it would be tugging on us, not tilting us.

I love math. And I love physics. I hate seeing both mutilated like this.

edit on 19-3-2011 by CLPrime because: (no reason given)

Thank you so much for this!

Fearful OP + a little bit of knowledge = oh my, not again...