How they Built the Great Pyramid of Egypt

reply to post by SLAYER69


Except the "The Giza" pryamid stands alone and unique and to my knowledge has not been repeated to this day..I.E the 52o slope of the inclines, the closest I believe was 46o of incline before the structures collapse.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas

Originally posted by Draken

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidasBut calling "workers" in Ancient Egypt anything other than slaves is an insult like calling Auschwitz a Holiday Inn.

edit on 3/22/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.

What are u talking about ? They were NOT slaves.
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.guardian.co.uk...

Its been common knowledge for a few years now. Stop repeating lies.

edit on 22/3/11 by masqua because: Trimmed Big Quote to relevant bit

First and foremost, you had better come up with better sources, than crappy ones.

Prior to calling me a liar or that I am spreading lies.

I've investigated the history in depth and thoroughly vetted my sources of information.

Something I highly doubt you have done at all.

The Guardian is known for spreading lies.

And the BBC will say anything to make political allies or assist political allies.

Egypt has been running disinformation for decades trying to dispell their history.

edit on 3/22/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.

I have a degree in archeology, that's how i know this info is true, if you have access to any journal databases i would gladly point you towards this study.

I'm pretty sure the vast majority were workers who worshiped the Pharaoh as a living god and were willing to toil endlessly and still others were "told" by the "STATE" to send some family members to "HELP" A Requirement by the Kingdom... The cost of living the good life in Egypt near the Nile vs the Desert.

But let's not say with complete 100% certainty they didn't have and used slaves. I could imagine some slaves used for the most dangerous tasks.

reply to post by Draken


A degree in Archaeology does not prove or disprove anything.

Neither does a journal which might be slanted towards a particular way of thinking.

A majority of any archaeology is slanted towards seeking donations for digs, educating people under assumed information a college or Government wants displayed, while hiding any connections to those people funding and or allowing digs through a filter of "benevolent" people, who are just like those Pharoahs who believed they were "God incarnate".

That says you paid a lot of money to go to college not that you actually learned anything other than what was taught.

This is where learning and not learning clash immensely.

The question is have you taken any courses in understanding, deciphering, and comprehending propaganda.

As well do you have street smarts over book smart or a combination of both?

Also this depends upon where and how you learned and earned that degree.

Being sent to Harvard with a silver spoon or earning your way while working like a dog.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
I'm pretty sure the vast majority were workers who worshiped the Pharaoh as a living god and were willing to toil endlessly and still others were "told" by the "STATE" to send some family members to "HELP" A Requirement by the Kingdom... The cost of living the good life in Egypt near the Nile vs the Desert.

But let's not say with complete 100% certainty they didn't have and used slaves. I could imagine some slaves used for the most dangerous tasks.

Oh yeah.

Nothing like "volunteering" while in shackles chained to other "workers".

Oh, excuse me, "mutually exclusive matching accessories" while "connected" to neighbors.

Meanwhile, back at the hut, family is either toiling away for "the State" or awaiting potential execution.

For some odd reason SLAYER69, your post reminds me of this song, and I'm laughing.

Chain Gang from Cadence


Something about slavery oddly being close to being prisoners just rings a bell.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas


I see this in many aspects of archeology.
Too much old world stereotypes held over from the last couple of centuries. I'm glad Byrd chimes in to straiten out the situation from time to time. But not everything is known hence why new discoveries are all so important.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

I see this in many aspects of archeology.
Too much old world stereotypes held over from the last couple of centuries. I'm glad Byrd chimes in to straiten out the situation from time to time. But not everything is known hence why new discoveries are all so important.

edit on 24-3-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

Of course new discoveries are important.

But, old information, new information, or any information needs to be deciphered and free of propaganda.

Harvard, Oxford, Stanford or any other college for that matter have agendas and funding to look after.

They cannot and will not tell the truth 100% of the time only what their board of directors wants told.

So as to not ruffle the feathers of potential donors and alumni.

This is why archaeology needs to be watched by conspiracy theorists.

To catch Government lies and ties to funding and potential cover-ups.

By "Government" I literally mean any countries government and all of them simultaneously.

Alliances, enemies, and agendas change every second of every day and so does funding.

It is all about two things in general :

1) Money.

2) Perception.

After that it is who's butt is being kissed or who's in the ringer for telling too much truth to the "ignorant masses".

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

Let's say it took 1200 years. That would be one stone every 252 minutes which is one stone every 4 hours non stop for 1200 years uninterrupted.

I still would like to know how fast you believe this project was accomplished. We know of the twenty year claim but I've also laid out a 1200 year calculation. Given the size and weight and precision to which they were laid, how fast do you believe they could've cut moved and placed one giant stone. Or did they have good days and bad days? You know they placed twenty stones in one day and the next day they were so shot that they only did two?

I'm asking you because you seem adamant that we can trust no one and all information should have been gone over by yourself before letting the ignorant masses see it.

Now remember, that's one giant stone cut precisely and placed in four hours. Non stop uninterupted for a twelve hundred year span.

I wonder also why we haven't recovered any pulleys or sleds. Or did we and they hid them on us? Or did they and I just don't know about it? I am confused now.

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

I still would like to know how fast you believe this project was accomplished. We know of the twenty year claim but I've also laid out a 1200 year calculation. Given the size and weight and precision to which they were laid, how fast do you believe they could've cut moved and placed one giant stone. Or did they have good days and bad days? You know they placed twenty stones in one day and the next day they were so shot that they only did two?

1,200 years is yours or someone else's calculation not mine.

I do not concur with the 1,200 year claim and cannot see it as viable by any means.

How many stones were quarried or moved depends upon the exact number of people working.

Logistically speaking, if 1,000 people were involved, quicker movement, if 100 people, slower.

Originally posted by jackflap
I'm asking you because you seem adamant that we can trust no one and all information should have been gone over by yourself before letting the ignorant masses see it.

All of gone over by me?

Seriously?

No, I am not stating I am the only one correct, I am however adamant about absurd claims.

Common sense prevails as well as basic logic that slaves built the pyramids.

Not "aliens" from another dimension.

Originally posted by jackflap
Now remember, that's one giant stone cut precisely and placed in four hours. Non stop uninterupted for a twelve hundred year span.

Again, your claim is a fallacy, and non-viable.

Originally posted by jackflap
I wonder also why we haven't recovered any pulleys or sleds. Or did we and they hid them on us? Or did they and I just don't know about it? I am confused now.

Ever worked or seen people who build houses?

What about people who do the footers for the foundation?

They utilize the same boards for building footers in cookie-cutter homes being built.

If something breaks they build or replace that.

On top of this when countries are run by tyrants those willing to die to exist become thieves.

Why else were tombs robbed other than to take the gold, jewelry, and artifacts?

To eat, to sell, or to trade with on the black market.

Common sense and basic logic my friend.

I love how SpartanKingLeonidas tells everyone that we cant know things for sure, and this and that. Yet he stands behind his statements like they gold and his own rules don't apply to them lol.

I agree with him, we cant be sure of anything, hence we cant even rule out the most insane like aliens.

Originally posted by Draken
I love how SpartanKingLeonidas tells everyone that we cant know things for sure, and this and that. Yet he stands behind his statements like they gold and his own rules don't apply to them lol.

I agree with him, we cant be sure of anything, hence we cant even rule out the most insane like aliens.

I wonder at your reading comprehension abilities.

I have never stated we cannot know things for certain.

I did however state propanganda is a part of the education system.

I stand behind my education, my ability to decipher propaganda, and my investigations.

I only stand behind things, people, and information know 100%.

Anything else is up for discussion.

And I follow policy, procedure, and protocols, more rules than you follow.

As I have already stated "aliens" are the furthest from my mind when it comes to Egypt and pyramids.

Originally posted by Draken
I love how SpartanKingLeonidas tells everyone that we cant know things for sure, and this and that. Yet he stands behind his statements like they gold and his own rules don't apply to them lol.

I cant and wont speak for him but he does make a good argument.

I agree with him, we cant be sure of anything, hence we cant even rule out the most insane like aliens.

Fair enough.

How about this. Post us some more links for the argument for the Alien theory.

I'll look them over and give my opinion. I'm pretty sure I've read some. I do believe in the possibility of ET visiting us then and now.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Thank you.

Aliens, the Boogeyman, and Creatures That Go Bump In the Night

For insight into my thoughts on "aliens" people should discuss it with me in the thread above.

So as to not sway SLAYER69's thread.

I only referenced the possibility of "aliens" denouncing them here.

"Aliens" could exist but I have never found a single ounce of proof ever to substantiate that claim.

I do not believe they had any influence and or directive towards building pyramids in Egypt.

If SLAYER69 wants to entertain that it is his thread and I will respect that.

I plan to stick to facts, information, and known history while deciphering propapganda.

reply to post by Draken


draken, in THE PYRAMIDS -- AN ENIGMA SOLVED by dr. davidowitz and margie morris, the authors explain (fully?) how the egyptians produced faux granite. you are right, this doesn't appear to be common knowledge today. too many professors protect the "truth" as they received it from their professors. my statement to the effect that the pyramid was mostly made of materials originally limestone may have been mistaken. however, davidowitz says, in effect, that the whole of the edifice was made of geopolymers. the granite was apparently quarried in block sections, pulverized, and then chemically binded together in forms as needed. document finished surfaces remaining in quarry? unlikely on the face of it, but i'll look at any evidence. any pulverizing process might have been facilitated by seperating more or less planer blocks from the parent stone deposit.

OK, might sound strange but I heard the pyramids were built with harmonic levitation. The ancient texts actually say that the Egyptians flew the blocks in, and we know the blocks came from a quarry miles away.

Harmonic levitation works by using the resonant frequency of the stone.

I'm not making this stuff up if you search for it you'll find it.

reply to post by thepainweaver


if the people used limestone in their cooking/baking arrangements, this would have produced quite a bit of burnt lime for the gathering. as for the wood? floated down the nile from somewhere along its length of hundreds of miles, cut,if necessary, by work gangs

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas


Anyone who doesn't believe that their is other life out there, is highly uneducated. Way too many factors point to their being life else where in the universe, lots of it. Now to say that none of them got super advanced and traveled the galaxies is absurd. I mean even the dinosaurs were around longer then we were, we can only imagine the kind of beings that could evolve on many different types of worlds and with the right amount of time. Humans have been around less then 0.01% of the current age of the universe, to think we are all that it contains is brain damaging to be honest.

Researchers at MIT are trying to link the start of life to mars now. Because we pretty sure mars has water and was way more earth like when it first formed. Being so, it would of evolved life before earth and most likely seeded earth while it was still coming into shape. We also know tons of material is transferred through our solar system and we know material from mars can easily reach earth multiple times. We also know that the building blocks needed for life can survive being moved through inter-seller space on debris without being destroyed.

I'm pretty sure aliens are out there, do they come to this little pale blue dot ? Maybe, maybe not. But to rule it out completely, just shows a lack of intelligent.

reply to post by Draken


Again, I referenced a thread to discuss that, discussing it here other than in regards to Egypt is taking this thread off topic.

I said I have never seen proof.

You are only proving your lack of reading comprehension.

There is a potential for "aliens", sure, but I've never seen any proof.

Back to the topic at hand or debate me on "aliens" in my thread please.

SLAYER69 put a lot of hard work into this thread and no one needs to disrepect him.

Like you are doing.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



My reading comprehension is fine thanks. Considering the fact that aliens could of helped has been suggested since page 1 and Slayer69 asked me and others to give info, i don't think its off topic at all. You advertising your own thread, well, that's another concern isn't it ?

You seem to be very disruptive in this thread, trying to take control of it or something. Slayer69 is way less ignorant then you and at least considers that other beings from another planet could of helped.

You talk about how we must deny ignorance, yet you ignore the fact that aliens could possibility exist ? Very contradictory i must say.

Thanks for this great thread Slayer it has made great reading and opened my eyes to the many puzzles of the pyramids out there. I couldn't discount one method or the other but your idea seems solid and most logical in comparison to most. I do not think aliens built it but, who's to say they didn't pay a visit ?

Big thumbs up to the Liverpudlian man who put so much work into researching and creating the models on Youtube. His way of interperting the heiroglyphs as almost a set of instructions to assemble the djed is intriguing, it makes me wonder how many others have been mis-interpeted. The only bit I couldn't grasp in the video is in the model where he uses blocks to demonstrate the slabs being pulled up and put into position, how did they go from being on their side to flat ? It must have been a big manouver in itself or, I'm just missing the obvious.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
I'm pretty sure the vast majority were workers who worshiped the Pharaoh as a living god and were willing to toil endlessly and still others were "told" by the "STATE" to send some family members to "HELP" A Requirement by the Kingdom... The cost of living the good life in Egypt near the Nile vs the Desert.

No. They didn't do things that way back then (they left written records.) People WANTED to get on the work gangs, because it was an easy way to have a good food supply when the fields were under water and unusable. The wealth of the nation was held in temples and by the rulers. Scribes, priests, and officials lived very comfortable lives.

Here's a reasonably good article on it:
www.reshafim.org.il...

As you can see, slavery became more common around 1500 BC and even more common after the Greeks took over (and then the Romans (600 BC-100 AD).)