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Originally posted by kermithermit111
reply to post by PuterMan
where is the proof of elenin passing by other bodies and not disrupting their orbit?
is that from nasa?
and i would hope, as everyone is saying you're one of the top quake guys here, that you would put more consideration into such a pattern relationship forming between quakes and alignments....
LeonidOS:
Март 11, 2011 в 13:27
I’m as scientist not relate this tragedy with my or any other comets.
as i had to tell people in another thread... there is no special magic "date" such as march "15th" when it will instantly be in a "conjunction"...
i would have thought you would know this..
really not trying to be rude, but if you're wanting to talk rational, please think deeper into this.
march 15 was Only what NASA (Never A Straight Answer) is capable/willing to publish in an orbital diagram as the "most aligned" day out of MANY DAYS where our earth is inbetween the sun and elenin. sure NASA has concluded (if you think they are 100% correct) that this day will have the best alignment, but things move very slowly on the cosmological scale. elenin doesn't just appear march 15th morning and leave that night. it takes a long time for it to completely pass through an alignment, creating a "window" of alignment.
now, when considering that elenin could be a dwarf star with tens of times the mass of jupiter for example, the earth would experience a "pinnacle" point of releasing it's momentum/pressure that was built up while orbiting the sun up until it came between the sun and elenin.
Saturn may have the lowest density but Saturn’s mass is greater than all the planets except for Jupiter. Saturn’s mass is 5.688e+26.
Jupiter’s mass is 1.8986×10^27 kg. That’s as much as 317.8 Earths and is 1/1047 the size of the Sun.
now, you know there was a 9.0 on the entering of the alignment, and some blatantly odd quake activity that continued through that window and is still even happening today.
please take these facts into consideration before you try to "debunk" the entire theory by saying "no 9.0 on march 15!!!"
the simple conclusion is this:
if this pattern continues, later this year we will see Many more geographical changes.
Originally posted by kermithermit111
reply to post by PuterMan
as for saturn: you're basing your entire conclusion that elenin is not a bigger mass than published off of the fact that you have "found no evidence" that saturn was effected.
first: where would you even find that evidence, is there a site or source for seismological activity on saturn or it's moons? a site other than nasa would be nice too..
second: saturn obviously has the lowest density in the solar system, so wouldn't it physically be the least affected anyways?
third: the "scientist" leonid elenin has had little evidence of even existing as an individual in the first place, how are you sure his quotes aren't posted by someone else?
fourth: i never once said anything related to the "doom" events predicted for the specific date of march 15th, and was not worried about that day more than any other day in the window of alignment.
now, you say there is little possibility for elenin not being a dwarf star, what variables are you basing this upon?
it would be very hard to find enough solid evidence on elenin so far to come to anything near that conclusion, so if you have, what is it?
you say that elenin will almost certainly have no effect on earth as it gets nearer, but you have no evidence other than the mass posted on nasa's jpl site, and the mass "leonid elenin" is estimating.
as of right now, there is no "evidence" of it being any certain size.
all we can do is observe. and so our observations stand as the closest thing to "evidence" that we can collect.
and with that, I do see elenin as having been in alignment when the past two >8.0 earthquakes occurred on this planet.
so if that is not observable evidence to base a future alignment's events upon, i don't know what you're looking for.