Barak Obama: The Strongest President In History

Originally posted by trusername
they seem quite the quiet homebodies devoid of pomp.

Huh? Where have you been? LOL
Obama has taken more vacations and has had more parties than any other President for only a few years in office.

He has increased debt and the policies we will see in time. But in this - he is not alone.

When it comes to the scope or the amount of increase he is very alone. It's ridiculous the amount of debt he has accrued.

He works remarkably tolerantly with a right

What? Come on, you cannot be serious.
He has done NOTHING to include the other side. In fact, he has gone out of his way to avoid it.

He shows leadership by example of work ethic and calm.

Leadership??? LOL
Obama is a reactionary and not a visionary President.
He shows NO work ethic. He is always on vacation and having parties.

Being inept and not knowing how to run anything - that is subjective and very probably true of every president

No, it's just this lame president. LOL

I'm not sure how bad off we will be in ten years. But, we really should go back to doing what we were doing from 2003-2008. We really needed to stay the course. Economy was strong. Everyone was happy. It's totally all barak obamas fault. Meddling in our business. Best prez ever. Ole W. Thanks 35 and older for making the world a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.

The OP, has put out that President Obama is a strong president, however it can be argued on the different points that is presented:
1) No president should ever want to go to war, even when there is more than ample opportunity to do such. They have to live with the deaths of every single American citizen on their mind for the rest of their lives. However, they do have to make a choice, and just cause the current president has chosen not to go to war, is not a sign to justify on. There has been ample opportunity for any other President before him to go to war. However, as wars do require an act of congress, and the last time Congress declared war was World War II, there is no war that the United States has fought in. Armed conflicts, yes, but an actual declared war no. Though the question is why he chooses to ignore the problems to the south of the United States, with its neighbor Mexico, and the escalating violence would show a lack of leadership ability on his part, or even to make so much as a statement or take definitive actions, shows that he is a coward on his part. The greatest fight is not that which you know you can win, but that which there is no sign of either winning or losing, and he is not taking action. When the General in Afghanistan requested and he did not act, it shows a lack of leadership and strength of character. Though his outline of statement of what the US will and will not do may be a start, but it is too little too late for many people. He ignores many of the protests only focusing on that which would seem to benefit someone that he knows personally, or where the interest of the country are at. He could easily speak out against the different regimes in the middle east when they stop demonstrations yet does not, and takes his time with Libya, yet, chose to act for Egypt, this is a sign of business as usual.
2) Like so many who are elected at the beginning of his term and midterm, took on a challenge, yet he picks and chooses the issues he is dealing with, not taking on the harder choices, often splitting the population and not joining it together. The country is divided, those who support and back him and those who do not like his policies. Gee how is a beer summit for the issue about a black professor and the police going to affect the rest of the country, or listening to the largest unions or even letting those who have ties to very specific business doing any good for the country?
3) Yes the Dollar does run the world, yet fails to look at the cause of the decline of business in the country or even offer help to those on main street, by continuing on the very same policies as his predecessor. He gave the country hope and delivered nothing. He seeks to try to appear to be the hope, and at the same time, has done very little to help the very people who put him in office.
4) That is incorrect, as it is proven that the numbers that are released are false and do not take into account those who are no longer on the roles of the Unemployment and have given up.
5) His actions during the entire healthcare debate was full of lies, promises he can not deliver on, and in short something that would get someone fired or in jail. At first it was not a tax, now it is a tax. It did little to give any sort of relief to the general population, no help now, rather it will take another 3 years, and ultimately will be another entitlement that the country can not afford. The math does not make sense, nor should it, as it can not be deficit neutral, while spending billions if not trillions, causing the downfall of more businesses in the process, while granting wavers to those larger companies, or where bribes are required to get it passed, all to include a bill that is so full of things, that have nothing to do with healthcare what so ever. But more importantly, if you were employed by a person, would you still have a job if you ignored your boss? We are his boss, and he should have listened to us, instead of ignoring.
6) While the idea of renewable energy that is cheap is a good idea, does absolutely nothing, no plan, no outline to show a timeline or even a phase out of the petroleum fuels in favor of such, not even so much as a slice of the budget to encourage and have the startup with the R&D to create such, or even help businesses do such.
7) No, rather he sits back and does nothing, all the while allowing the fed to dictate policy to him, to include printing more money and devaluing the dollar to the point where treasuries are not the secure investment.
8) The US may have looked ridiculous, however, in the past Presidents took the lead and action, with a firm decisiveness as required. At one time the US was a superpower, taking action when such was required and at the same time, choosing what conflicts it needs to be involved in. At the same time there was no doubt in other leaders mind that the US was not the country to mess with. Our allies, and many countries sought the alliance of the US, now they avoid such, and even the traditional allies of the US are shying away.
Ultimately he will be judged on his actions and the company he keeps, so far the company is proving to be less than acceptable to the majority of the population, and his actions and policies are less than tasteful. It is now that he has to deal with the Republicans that he is having to open to ideas that he would not, but then again, with the current fight going on between the congress and the white house, the jury is out on this. We the people will watch and in the long run, how things play out will ultimately determine if he is viewed as a good or a bad president. Right now he is no leader, often speaking where he should not, and other times remaining silent when he should be speaking.
Being president is never an easy job and too many want the job, to which they should be avoiding it.

Originally posted by trusername

Originally posted by Oldnslo
Barak Obama: The Strongest President In History. Hmmmmmmm?

Richard Milhaus Nixon or Lyndon Baines Johnson would have eaten this guy for lunch and passed no gas!!!

Nixon and Johnson didn't last very long so I don't know how strong their stomachs were in the face of adversity.

What impresses me about Obama is his ability to stand up to his friends as well as his foes. That shows strength.

LBJ was involved in the take down of JFK (Mac Wallace's pinky fingerprint in the TSBD), and R Milhaus was Prescott's boy, involved in the planning of Operation Zapata to Linebacker II, and most everything in between.

If you truly believe Mr. Obama is cut from the same cloth, you are sadly mistaken. If he tried to be his own man, TPTB would pull out a picture of ole CE 139, and that would end that delusional moment.

I believe he has had one of these moments over in Hawaii a couple years ago. He went into a briefing waving and smiling and came out looking as if his life had been threatened. The mustard came off the hot dog and he has not been the same since. It may be the reason why he chases the little white ball while the world simmers and boils.

Standing up to his friends and foes. I haven't seen that yet, but I have noticed Gitmo's still open for business.

reply to post by kozmo


And what would be your solution?

socialism?

I'm Not real sure I care what the rest of the world Thinks of us: "Hey You, yes you Americuns'; we don like yooo "
( you know "sticks and stones...")
BWAHAHA
StrongestPresident "hoooo" good one nice try

bwahahaha "urk!"cough; cough spews (dr.pepper into the keyboard)....

As another poster replied once:
" quit drinkin the bong water..."

Really???

I say "sure sure" to this thread and title.
I have a nice bridge in San Francisco and Brooklyn for sale.

I've tried to avoid this thread, just because I strongly disagree with Obamas policies.

But to keep it simple, a LEADER acts.
A follower, REACTS.

Obama is not a leader. He has "reacted" to all that has come his way. He has not "led" us into or
away from any of the issues he has faced. Any problem he has come across, his reaction is to ignore, throw money at, blame Bush, or use the race card.

But keep up the cheerleading section. He'll need it in 2012. Just a word of warning, bring a passport. He'll probably be on vacation when you want to see him.

you guys REALLY think Obama is a good president?at least when bush was president i could afford gas. at least when bush was president i didnt have to pay incredibly insane taxes on government programs that arent needed (there were some, not as many as now). I DONT EVEN LIKE BUSH!!!

you lefties need to step back and look at the real world. what is the longest a government has lasted with a overpowered central governement? while government is a necessary evil, it should be limited to a point that it CAN NOT interfere with an individuals rights.

For all you saying the constituion needs to be re-written, well i think you should just go jump off a cliff

Originally posted by trusername

1) Doesn't feel the need to go into a new war - even when he can.

Except obama did just that today, started a war with Libya.

The rest of this OP is just as big of a FAIL.

This thread is laughable.

The American democrats and the majority of the left over there make me sick. You guys love being slaves.

Obama is a war-mongrel-pig-dog.

*spits on floor*

Originally posted by NadaCambia
This thread is laughable.

The American democrats and the majority of the left over there make me sick. You guys love being slaves.

Obama is a war-mongrel-pig-dog.

*spits on floor*

x2!

*spits on floor and hits shoe*

he is a war mongrel- pig dog though.

reply to post by WhatTheory

Huh? Where have you been?
LOL Obama has taken more vacations and has had more parties than any other President for only a few years in office.

Are you intentional lying or were you misled yourself?

Regardless, please use FACTS when making such a claim:


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Or better yet, do your research...and come back with ANYTHING to back up your claim

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by trusername

1) Doesn't feel the need to go into a new war - even when he can.

Except obama did just that today, started a war with Libya.

The rest of this OP is just as big of a FAIL.

ATS thread

Originally posted by centurion1211
And as far as Obama pushing for action in Libya, the reports I've heard are saying that it was Hillary that pushed for that while obama was filling out his basketball brackets, and are part of the reason she says she doesn't want to come back after 2012

I'm confused? Your posts seem to contradict. One is dissing Obama for doing nothing about Libya and hands credit to Hillary, the other is used to dis-credit him for doing something about Libya and makes no mention of her. Which is it?

Originally posted by trusername

Originally posted by berilium
the problem with your logic is that you believe democracy is the way to run the world ... it's not

if we want to solve the worlds problems we need to change the way people think

obama is just another stooge perpetuating the same failed doctrines of the last 2000 years of tyrannical oligarchy

I don't actually believe that democracy is the way. I think most people don't have the time or inclination to run the world and that even a republic invites too many hot air bags to be productive.

But Winston was right -still better than all the others. Dictatorships don't look comfortable. Monarchies lead to disturbing inbreeding. Communism leads to lethargy.

I'm up for suggestions of alternatives.

How about what the Founders of The US came up with. Seriuosly....what's wrong with:

The Declaration of Independance

The Constitution

The Bill of Rights?

I think he is the most pitiful excuse for a president to date ! He has no experience at running a business much less a country.He has created more debt than all the other presidents. He takes too many vacations. He is weak and spineless. Hell he's never even had a real job. His only agenda is give more government entitlements to blacks. he has surrounded himself with people that dont have a clue about the real world. A bunch of leftist,liberal communists and marxists.

im not setting out to offend anyone, but in my personal opinion; anyone who thinks obama is "the strongest president" has been diluted by the biggest group of liers known to man. you need to look at the current state of life of the american people, sure its probably WAY BETTER than most of the world. but we are in some # right now, simply because Obama is a wacko leftist who has lied to everyone about everything he has done. can you really stand even listening to him? every...uh...other...uh...word...is...uh...uh. RON PAUL 2012

Originally posted by Connector

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by trusername

1) Doesn't feel the need to go into a new war - even when he can.

Except obama did just that today, started a war with Libya.

The rest of this OP is just as big of a FAIL.

ATS thread

Originally posted by centurion1211
And as far as Obama pushing for action in Libya, the reports I've heard are saying that it was Hillary that pushed for that while obama was filling out his basketball brackets, and are part of the reason she says she doesn't want to come back after 2012

I'm confused? Your posts seem to contradict. One is dissing Obama for doing nothing about Libya and hands credit to Hillary, the other is used to dis-credit him for doing something about Libya and makes no mention of her. Which is it?

edit on 19-3-2011 by Connector because: (no reason given)

Contradiction? Not really. with obama instaed of paying attention to world events like in Libya obama feels his basketball brackets are more important then being a leader. obama is unable to make a snap decision unless the polls say he can. That's why obama was the last leader to get behind the condem kadafi bandwagon because he can't make a decision. Also you don't think his dragging his heels on kadafi had anything to do since his two mentors farrakhan and wright are good friends with kadafi do you?

Obama is a miserable failure of a president. He has no leadership capabilities. he can't talk without the aid of a teleprompter. He sucks at domestic policies. He defies the will of the American voter. He's sides with corrupt union bosses. And he spends money like a man who keeps a printing press in his bedroom.

Strength does not come from arrogance, it comes by choosing to do the correct things in life. So he is not strong at all. That is an illusion. He is not strong. And he is not a truthful man either IMO.

reply to post by Chance321

Contradiction? Not really.

Yes it is.....exactly

Contradiction-definition

con·tra·dic·tion    /ˌkɒntrəˈdɪkʃən/ Show Spelled[kon-truh-dik-shuhn] Show IPA –noun 1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition. 2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial. 3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous. 4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency. 5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.