Modern Feminist Narcissism and the Sperm Bank

Quite frankly i think that article is a load of bollox.
From the offset, you know from your quotes of it that its basicly about blaming feminists for wanting an equal place in society. When you start ranting about children being brought up in "Balenced households" your trying to play the emotional blackmail card and it just doesnt sit with me.
The article lacks any sort of contributing facts to back up its "Up your own ass" conservative opinion and to be fair, who is anyone to say what type of household a child should be raised in?
Drugs are rife in society, kid's are considered LUCKY if they're born into the working class and their parents dont have any addictions.
Seriously, why did you post this?

reply to post by TheRealTruth84


An excellent post.

One point I do disagree on though is that women "rebelled." Feminism is an agenda put upon women, not born of women. And I don't mean feminism in the true sense of the word, but feminism as we see it today, the socio-political agenda. The powers that be preyed upon the fears and weaknesses of women in order to institute this agenda.

For example, I have no problem at all with a woman who wants to be a career woman, or go out in the field and be a geologist or something. For that matter, I am not even offended by traditional role reversals when it comes to who is breadwinner and who is the homemaker, for example. What I am offended by is the destruction of the family unit.

As far as women "rebelling" though, they did that without the Feminist agenda. Look back in history in just the past few hundred years, there have been important women of science, literature, and so forth, that had no need of this agenda. They went out and achieved because it was in their nature to do so, not because achievement was a "right."

Originally posted by ag893
Feminist are full of crap and have destroyed American society. They will never have a successful marriage!

 

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Lol, comments like this make my day.

Deny ignorance!!

reply to post by 2manyquestions


Actually, I am just as offended by women who choose to have children as the result of a one night stand as much, even more than I am offended by a woman who goes to a sperm bank or a homosexual couple.

I am sorry to say though, that the rest of our post is the result of a perspective skewed by the feminist agenda. Women have never been the cowering "wimps" you portray them as. Do some more authentic study of history.

Now don't get me wrong, things like the woman's vote, equal pay, those sorts of things I fully support, and those are genuine achievements that were certainly in order. But for women to go beyond that now, with this, "I don't need no man" mentality is destructive.

Men and women both need eachother.

The finding that women who do not use condoms during sex are less depressed and less likely to attempt suicide than are women who have sex with condoms and women who are not sexually active, leads one researcher to conclude that semen contains powerful—and potentially addictive—mood-altering chemicals. Study author Gordon G. Gallup, Ph.D., a psychologist at the State University of New York in Albany, also found that women who routinely had intercourse without condoms became increasingly depressed as more time elapsed since their last sexual encounter. There was no such correlation for women whose partners regularly used condoms.

More of that article is found here:

www.psychologytoday.com...

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Quite frankly i think that article is a load of bollox.
From the offset, you know from your quotes of it that its basicly about blaming feminists for wanting an equal place in society. When you start ranting about children being brought up in "Balenced households" your trying to play the emotional blackmail card and it just doesnt sit with me.
The article lacks any sort of contributing facts to back up its "Up your own ass" conservative opinion and to be fair, who is anyone to say what type of household a child should be raised in?
Drugs are rife in society, kid's are considered LUCKY if they're born into the working class and their parents dont have any addictions.
Seriously, why did you post this?

Actually, if you bothered to understand the article, objectively, what it is about is equality and preservation of the family. Hardly bad ideals I should say.

Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Quite frankly i think that article is a load of bollox.
From the offset, you know from your quotes of it that its basicly about blaming feminists for wanting an equal place in society. When you start ranting about children being brought up in "Balenced households" your trying to play the emotional blackmail card and it just doesnt sit with me.
The article lacks any sort of contributing facts to back up its "Up your own ass" conservative opinion and to be fair, who is anyone to say what type of household a child should be raised in?
Drugs are rife in society, kid's are considered LUCKY if they're born into the working class and their parents dont have any addictions.
Seriously, why did you post this?

Actually, if you bothered to understand the article, objectively, what it is about is equality and preservation of the family. Hardly bad ideals I should say.

edit on 3/18/11 by StigShen because: (no reason given)

But summed up, in perspective, its just someone trying to push their views of lifestyle onto another group of people. I dont understand why people think its okay to do this, clearly they dont know how to keep their nose's out of things that are nothing to do with them.
I dont tell you how to whipe your bum, do i?

What was the defined role of the male parent in the family structure?

The typical role of the male parent would be provider of food, shelter and safety

How has this role changed in the 21st century?

The role of the male parent has changed dramtically in the 21st century? There are now more women in the workforce then men. The role for men is changing at a dramtic rate, and it may be a factor in a generational slip.

How would you define a generational slip?

A generational slip is when different generations fail to progresss through the cycle. Through social problems, later generations are unable to leave a workplace due to financial insecurity. This causes the generation below to stutter as well. You will find more and more young males unemployed and with very little purpose in life.

With women now being able to be providers, what is left for men?

I imagine a lot of men ranging from birthdate 1975-1995 will find themselves not only incapable of achieving the "American Dream" but will actually begin to see that it has been a fallacy for a very long time. The once sole responsibility as provider is gone and latter birth years mentioned will be eaten up in the generational slip.

How do you believe this divergence of men and women, seperation of the family structure, will play out in the future?

The key word you used in that sentence is "structure". Yes, in a free, democratic society any human being is capable of success. When you remove that variable from the equation, what are you left with? Chaos. Imagine if society fell apart and it became the animal kingdom again. Survival of the fittest.

So, you are saying that if the world lost structure, that the family unit would be forced back together?

In a manner of words, yes. It is not to say that is exactly what would happen. With no governence, people's realities of the world would change dramatically. Sometimes a "need" may overcome a "want". In an unsafe world a female may now "need" that protector back. Any female animal , geese, mouse, name it, relies on the male for protection for itself and it's children.

Interesting, thank you very much

Originally posted by StigShen
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Actually, I am just as offended by women who choose to have children as the result of a one night stand as much, even more than I am offended by a woman who goes to a sperm bank or a homosexual couple.

I am sorry to say though, that the rest of our post is the result of a perspective skewed by the feminist agenda. Women have never been the cowering "wimps" you portray them as. Do some more authentic study of history.

Now don't get me wrong, things like the woman's vote, equal pay, those sorts of things I fully support, and those are genuine achievements that were certainly in order. But for women to go beyond that now, with this, "I don't need no man" mentality is destructive.

Men and women both need eachother.

The finding that women who do not use condoms during sex are less depressed and less likely to attempt suicide than are women who have sex with condoms and women who are not sexually active, leads one researcher to conclude that semen contains powerful—and potentially addictive—mood-altering chemicals. Study author Gordon G. Gallup, Ph.D., a psychologist at the State University of New York in Albany, also found that women who routinely had intercourse without condoms became increasingly depressed as more time elapsed since their last sexual encounter. There was no such correlation for women whose partners regularly used condoms.

More of that article is found here:

www.psychologytoday.com...

First off, women dont wear or use condoms, men do.

Second I am offended by men who squirt their sperm all over tarnation INCLUDING sperm banks without a glance backwards as to the lives they are creating and dumping.

Third, there is nothing unnatural or wrong with homosexuality.

Fourth, who cares if you feel not needing a man is destructive, as a woman I decide how to live my life, and how some random man who spews anti homosexual rhetoric feels on the subject is not even considered.

Why in the world would you be so worried about women and sperm banks, and blame them for it? Um, hello, if not for men jerking their loads into those cups, us wimmin folk would not be utilizing the service.

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc




But summed up, in perspective, its just someone trying to push their views of lifestyle onto another group of people. I dont understand why people think its okay to do this, clearly they dont know how to keep their nose's out of things that are nothing to do with them.
I dont tell you how to whipe your bum, do i?

Okay, so what if I say my lifestyle choice is to have sex with my children?

reply to post by ADUB77


You touch on an very important aspect of the Feminist agenda social engineering. Twice as many taxpayers at half the wage. It has left us blind to a horrible truth...

US most overworked nation in developed world

...No wonder we have no time for our children. So they tell us it's okay to let them be raised by Communist teachers in day-prisons, Hot Pockets, American Idol, and Playstation.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
First off, women dont wear or use condoms, men do.

Women have far more options when it comes to avoiding an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy.

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Second I am offended by men who squirt their sperm all over tarnation INCLUDING sperm banks without a glance backwards as to the lives they are creating and dumping.

Don't like the product? Don't buy it.

Third, there is nothing unnatural or wrong with homosexuality.

I never said there was, and in fact, I explicitly stated otherwise.

Fourth, who cares if you feel not needing a man is destructive, as a woman I decide how to live my life, and how some random man who spews anti homosexual rhetoric feels on the subject is not even considered.

So it's all about YOU. What about the child? Thank you for making my point.

reply to post by StigShen


What is all about me? What are you talking about? Every decision I make, I make myself, no one makes them for me, certainly not a child. What is your point?

reply to post by hotbakedtater


My point is that you are more concerned about what you want than what is best for a child.

Like it or not, having a child on your own is not in the best interest of the child.

Originally posted by StigShen
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Actually, I am just as offended by women who choose to have children as the result of a one night stand as much, even more than I am offended by a woman who goes to a sperm bank or a homosexual couple.

What about the man who had the one-night stand with the woman? Are you offended by him? You do realize it takes a man AND a woman to produce a child... right? As for the sperm bank,... a man went and donated or sold his sperm. Are you offended by him? What about the men who own sperm banks? Are you offended by them? How about the men who make the laws and allow sperm banks to exist? Maybe you fail to realize that both men AND women created the society we now live in. Women only strive to be able to enjoy the same freedoms that you enjoy.

I am sorry to say though, that the rest of our post is the result of a perspective skewed by the feminist agenda. Women have never been the cowering "wimps" you portray them as. Do some more authentic study of history.

I never said women were "cowering wimps", but they were certainly 'put in their place' by men who ran the world and made all the rules. You'd have to be blind to be able to ignore the fact that world governments for centuries have been ruled by men. There were a few women here and there who had some say, a bit of power, but they were far outnumbered by men in such positions.

Now don't get me wrong, things like the woman's vote, equal pay, those sorts of things I fully support, and those are genuine achievements that were certainly in order. But for women to go beyond that now, with this, "I don't need no man" mentality is destructive.

Oh, you support the ability for women to vote and get equal pay and all "those sort of things"? That's very generous of you. What I don't understand is why this right had to be GIVEN to women by men,... why it had to be supported by men in the first place. Should it not have been a natural right in the sense that men and women are equal human beings able to make decisions for themselves without being restricted by the other sex?

You have it all wrong. Most women don't believe they don't need men around. Most women love men and want them around, they just don't want to feel suffocated by them. They don't want to be controlled and told what to do. They want to be able to live their lives as free as men live theirs. Women need men just as much as men need women,... they just don't need oppressive, controlling men, and that's the difference. They want to be able to breathe.

Men and women both need eachother.

Well, at least you got one thing right.

The finding that women who do not use condoms during sex are less depressed and less likely to attempt suicide than are women who have sex with condoms and women who are not sexually active, leads one researcher to conclude that semen contains powerful—and potentially addictive—mood-altering chemicals. Study author Gordon G. Gallup, Ph.D., a psychologist at the State University of New York in Albany, also found that women who routinely had intercourse without condoms became increasingly depressed as more time elapsed since their last sexual encounter. There was no such correlation for women whose partners regularly used condoms.

More of that article is found here:

www.psychologytoday.com...

Is this your proof that men and women need each other? My argument isn't that they don't need each other. My argument is that you're offended by women for having children on their own, when you clearly don't realize that men were involved in the birth and life of these children through their actions or inactions. If a father doesn't stick around to raise his child, then maybe you should be offended by him, not her. Women who want to have children on their own are few and far between. I personally don't know any woman who dreams about bringing a child into this world alone. Most women express that either they don't want to have children, they are not ready to have children, or that they would love to have a family with a man they love. When 'accidents' happen, it involves both a man and a woman.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

What about the man who had the one-night stand with the woman? Are you offended by him? You do realize it takes a man AND a woman to produce a child... right? As for the sperm bank,... a man went and donated or sold his sperm. Are you offended by him? What about the men who own sperm banks? Are you offended by them? How about the men who make the laws and allow sperm banks to exist? Maybe you fail to realize that both men AND women created the society we now live in. Women only strive to be able to enjoy the same freedoms that you enjoy.

There is a bottle of bleach under my counter. Is it really my fault if you go an drink it?

Since when do "men" own sperm banks. And the last I checked, we live in a democracy. An equal rights democracy. Men don't "make the laws."

Women HAVE the same rights and freedoms that I enjoy, and then some. Women are shown favoritism as a designated minority. Favoritism is not equality. You want to be a man? Then step up and walk the talk.

Originally posted by StigShen

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc




But summed up, in perspective, its just someone trying to push their views of lifestyle onto another group of people. I dont understand why people think its okay to do this, clearly they dont know how to keep their nose's out of things that are nothing to do with them.
I dont tell you how to whipe your bum, do i?

Okay, so what if I say my lifestyle choice is to have sex with my children?

Well, sir, thats classed as a form of abuse, and i could not, in good concious, let you continue with that choice of lifestyle knowing that you are potentionally ruining anothers life full stop.
However, you'll find that homosexuals tend to have relationships with other CONSENTING adults, Thus, no harm done as each adult is free to leave the relationship should it become destructive.
Also, thanks to the feminist movement, women can now leave abusive relationships and not suffer destitution, which i think is wonderful.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


It is only your opinion that minors cannot consent.

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

...Also, thanks to the feminist movement, women can now leave abusive relationships and not suffer destitution, which i think is wonderful.

Oh great. So freedom for women, equality, is living off some man's paycheck.

reply to post by StigShen


Actually, its the opinion of many and its also written in Laws around the world, thus, it is classed as a form of abuse that is illegal in the country i live in, so i could not let you continue with that lifestyle without informing the authorities.