Barack Obama: The Weakest President In History?

reply to post by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Can you list, with sources, a number of these 'lies' that he has not even attempted to fulfill?

There are an astonishing number of examples. It is inconceivable to me that anyone could not know of at least a few of them. Each day reveals the growing farce of his presidency.

Try this issue highlighted from just a couple of days ago:

Let's start with:



Now compare to:



As I have already said, there are MANY examples.

If you are an honest broker, do your own research. Test ANY promise he has made.

I and others have authored many threads demonstrating the point...

The man is a charlatan.

Originally posted by stavis
he´s 33 degree mason and he does as the tell him to. weak is not the right word. the president is coverd and traitor to the real great american people! we can do it, what the F is that all about! no you can´t is better for him to say. he should clime back to the rock he came crawling from in the first place!

He is not a 33rd degree mason, that would require skill, and leadership.... Obama has shown us again, and again...
He has no skill, what so ever.

It's funny........when the American people asked for transparency from our president they meant that they wanted a leader who would disclose all truth and be forthright with the people.....


Apparently Obama thought when they asked for a transparent president they meant literally "transparent"....as in invisible....as in nowhere to be found.

You can't really call him a bad leader because the honest truth is he hasn't actually led anything.

While the rest of the world scrambles to put the pieces back together, all Obama can seem to do is take vacations, pick NCAA basketball brackets and lament on how he is going to get re-elected next year.

Bush was a horrible leader but at least he showed up. He didnt sit on his hands for four years while the world crumbled.

So what is worse? A leader who tries and fails miserably, or a leader who doesn't even try?

reply to post by loam


That's what I thought.

I was looking for something quite specific, not a few general references to larger 'ideas'.

I was thinking more along the lines of concrete, like:

"Increase the capital gains and dividends taxes for higher-income taxpayers", which he failed to do.

or

"Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws" which he also failed to do.

or

Will "endorse the goal of sending human missions to the Moon by 2020, as a precursor in an orderly progression to missions to more distant destinations, including Mars."

or

"Will require oil companies to take a reasonable share of their record-breaking windfall profits and use it to provide direct relief worth $500 for an individual and $1,000 for a married couple. The relief would be delivered as quickly as possible to help families cope with the rising price of gasoline, food and other necessities. The rebates would be fully paid for with five years of a windfall profits tax on record oil company profits."

or

"I cannot guarantee that it is going to be in the first 100 days. But what I can guarantee is that we will have in the first year an immigration bill that I strongly support and that I'm promoting. And I want to move that forward as quickly as possible."

www.politifact.com...

But i tire of reading posts from people saying "Oh, he promised change and nothing changed'. That's vague nonsense, as much of the criticism in this thread appears to be. I'm not surprised. I was merely wondering what kind of responses I would get. SO far, none have surprised me with their non-sensationalism and accuracy.

He's weak because he doesn't have a shoot first find no WMDs later attitude?

I personally like the idea of a leader that waits for global consensus before charging into yet another war that we can't afford.

I thought we were supposed to be broke, doesn't that mean that we also don't have money for a shoot first ask no questions invasion of a soverign nation?

reply to post by centurion1211


This article (from a conservative biased newspaper) argues in part that Obama is weak because he did not commit an act of war against Libya. I mean really now? We are already committed to two wars, two fronts, it's costing us more than $300 million a day, and the author behind this article and people like you are whining why he isn't doing the same to Libya? Really? And don't even talk to me about it merely being a "no fly zone", it's an act of war and it will end up costing me and you. So I really question your priorities for this country, considering you are a "fiscal conservative".

As for his broke promises? I don't see them as weaknesses on his part, I just see them as broken promises, he knows full well that he is continuing much of the agenda that has been floating around DC for years. Carter was declared the weakest president before Obama by conservatives.... why? Because he did not invade Iran.

$700 billion, the cost of the Iraq war, we had tea partiers and the rest of the rightwing whine about spending, and now you are blaming Obama for not continuing the cycle.

I'm with projectvxn on this one.

Obama, without a doubt, was ONCE a great speaker but his pattern of "great" speeches now fail to impress in fact in the past year they sound muddled. There's a new tone in his voice and yes his demenor has completely changed.

The "powers to be" has DEFINATELY got something on him and has nothing to do with where he was born argument.....I think I have a very good idea what it is and Rahm Emanuel is no doubt somewhere involved. Geez, I hope I'm wrong. Wish I could say more but I won't.

Putting that aside, Obama never did have strong leadership skills; he knows he is surrounded by those way out of his league. I've even noticed his wife Michelle has suddenly gone quiet from the international scene.

Know this though.....Obama is NOT running the show in the White House and Pentagon; like Bush, Obama does exactly what he is told and when to it. This I think most of us know.

Obama is already finished and the Americans are just going through the motions until the next elections.

Though many believe the revolutions in the Middle East to be somewhat orchestrated, I strongly believe that a wave of revolutions are needed in the West. The Middle East might have brutal and psychotic dictators, but so do we, the only difference is that ours seem naked to the untrained eye.
Obama is a puppet, a mere public figure for the American people to blame when things go haywire, thus drowning Obama, while the true "elite" ride the tides.

Barack Obama - Saviour of the free world or puppet for the global elite?, I think it's obvious.

He takes orders just like the muppet/puppet did before him and it will all be blamed on him when the proverbial # hits the fan. Then a new saviour will be paraded that will promise change, peace & prosperity, economic growth and all the other #e that's usually banded about.

Sorry for the off-topic, but just heard that former Secretary of State and CFR member Warren Christopher died yesterday. Second paragraph on BBC news report : Mr Christopher will be remembered for helping bring peace to Bosnia in the 1990s and negotiating the release of American hostages in Iran in 1981. - wasn't that achieved by the sale of arms to Iran? the whole Iran-Contra controversy? no mention of that here : www.bbc.co.uk...

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What I find interesting is that, although the international approval rating is vastly down from after he was elected, it is still higher than the American people's approval rating of him.

Why do his own people think less of him than the rest of the world??

www.gallup.com...
Majorities in Chile (67%), El Salvador (61%), and Brazil (55%) approve of his job performance,

Obama US Job Approval: 51%

reply to post by bluemirage5



naaw, he just found out it ain't no picnic to be the potus.

great perks but dam! ya gotta make a decision now and then.

do something! good or bad, be real.

bush shot from the hip most of the time and he got wasted for it.

rather have a prez do that than nothing.

no non mericans need to reply.

Originally posted by Q2IN2Y
I honestly think he wanted to change things but the powers that be, I believe threatened his life.


You ever notice how passionate he was on the campaign trail and less than a few weeks in office, his whole demeanor changed?

Almost as if someone gave him an ultimatum

 

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Are tptb also telling him to do tactless things such as play golf during a critical time for the Japanese people including Japanese americans who may have family there? I just don't know anymore. I remember his passion on the campaign trail too, however maybe that was a farce as well.

Originally posted by fooks
do something! good or bad, be real.

Sure about that one? You'd prefer someone to make a bad decision rather than none at all? Perhaps in theory this seems plausible but not when you have the ability to launch nuclear war.

I'm American btw but would have replied regardless especially when I witness weak logic.

"Do or do not, there is no try." - Yoda

Originally posted by Q2IN2Y
Reply to post by projectvxn

 

Relax first off. I'm not making an excusem I'm making an observation.

I've never seen any president in my lifetime speak so passionately and within a week or two change.

And I'm not referring to his policies, I'm talking about his whole character in general.

On camera and away from politics

He has the face of someone who is walking on egg shells


Once again, please note and understand that this is an nuetral observation

 

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You have explained politician's and particularly Obama in a nut shell.Say what you need to get elected then become who you are when you have been elected.

That is the pure nature of the beast.Obama is just so bad at being deceptive that it is easy to see.

I know this is not your take on this, I think he is doing exactly what the powers that put him in office are telling him to do,someone has to he is an idiot and can't think for himself even a little bit.

reply to post by centurion1211


I'm sure if Reagan were still president he would be swimming to Libya with a knife in his mouth right now, right?
Maybe Obama doesnt want to be the World Police anymore (f*** yeah) and this is where his hesitation to use force comes from. It amazes me how short sighted some people can be.. Bush still wins worst pres in my lifetime by a WIDE margin. Realize that a lot of the problems we face today materialized under his watch, not Obama. Also understand that facing the problems of today, it would be near impossible for anyone to be considered GREAT by the vast majority of the public- Republican or Democrat. Our money is on fire. Our planet is appearing to become increasingly unstable. Regime change is increasing at an alarming rate. Give the guy some breathing room.

Why is he the weakest? he is the same as the rest of them..........a puppet.

I have tried very hard to support Obama but he is making it clear that he is weak and lacks the experience to make hard decisions. I would NEVER claim to know the pressure he is under and realize that I could probably never do that job. But he fought for the job knowing the what he was walking in to. Like him or not, Bush left quite a mess, that being said I realize that you could say the same thing for Bush and almost every President in history. Anyway, that is still a bad excuse for not keeping promises and just generally letting down your country. This whole mess in Libya has kind of pushed me over the edge. I realize that the UN is the main reason any action was slow going, but as the so called "big brother" super power (which is becoming less accurate), Obama should have been pressuring the UN. Which for all we know he was, but he didn't make it obvious if he was. Now the UN makes a move and Obama comes out in support in a very weak public statement and tries to make it seem like the UN and US had this planned all along and that they move "swiftly". There is nothing swift about what they have done. I realize that he doesn't want to get the US involved in another ground war, and I agree in ways, but his outright emphasis on this (in my opinion) makes him and the US look weak. I could go on and on about this but I do not want to make a huge post. I will just say that no matter who is President everyone will find reasons to not like something he/she is doing. But having a weak appearance is something that I cannot abide and neither should you as Americans. I am tired of being viewed as the joke of the world. Even if other country's think my way of life is "lazy" or "ignorant", I love my way of life. And though it angers me sometimes I love my country. I served my time for her and would do it again if called upon. I didn't mean for this to turn in to some patriotic spiel, sorry.

Obama is not in control of his position as President. He looks like he was under duress when he made the statements about Gaddafi because he was hesitant and had no passion in his voice.

He does not want to go to war with Libya over THEIR CIVIL WAR and we damn well shouldn't be invading any country who poses no threat to the US. If that makes him WEAK, then it makes you a moron.

The only reason why Italy or France wants US involvement is because the instability threatens their oil supply, but why the hell should we care? The UK is just trying to bait America into an unfortunate situation. I applaud Obama for not rushing to war and getting us involved in more BS that doesn't involve us when we already have enough problems here at home.

The point: if you are scared to die or are nervous for the safety of your family and friends, then you can not lead a revolution in this world. You have to standalone and be ready to die for what you belive in. I think Obama is now aware of how far the elite will go to get what they want and the stakes were too high to go against them as a husband and father with 2 young kids.

Weakest President? Because he doesn't swagger and make idiotic statements like "dead or alive" or "axis of evil" or "you're either with us or against us..." ???? Or because he's not a simpleton who can only see things in black and white, good and evil terms???

What gets me is that many of the replies on ATS actually parrot this absurdity. As if Obama's been sitting in the White House hiding under his desk and doing nothing.

Sorry, not true.

I was looking through different references to lists of Obama's accomplishments. There's a very extensive list posted in December 2010 by T.A. Barnhart, who writes, "This is not an original post. I'm copying a list from from a blog that is, in turn, the summation of a wiki site that details the accomplishments of Pres Barack Obama (with references). I like their approach because it lists the accomplishments, "targeted actions", funding and "broad policy" in each category. A useful way to look at policy." Barnhart's list is way too long to post here, but you can see it at:

www.blueoregon.com...

Here's another one that I found from June 2010 (18 months into office) on the Ed Schultz Show forum (posted by Chris In Santo). Go to the link below and you'll find that when you click on one of the items on the list you'll be forwarded to reference articles backing each one.

edschultz.invisionzone.com...

Workers:

Lilly Ledbetter Act: Obama Signs His First Bill (VIDEO)

Obama Expands Benefits For Gay Federal Workers

Science:

Obama ends embryonic stem cell research ban

Obama to restore stem cell funding

Obama Budget Boosts Science, Innovation

Antarctic scientists hail President Obama

Spending:

Obama CIO Debuts Federal IT Spending Tracker

Obama Tells Cabinet to Trim Spending

Obama names watchdog for federal spending

Military:

Obama's Iraq plans vindicated as US agrees to pull out by 2011

Pentagon to pay for families to travel to Dover

US war dead media blackout lifted

Army Is Phasing Out Stop-Loss for Soldiers

Obama phasing out military's 'stop-loss' policies

Obama calls for 2.9% pay raise in 2010

Military Lodging included in President Obama's new Veteran's Health bill

Obama promises to limit no-bid contracts

Michelle Obama and Barack Obama announce military family program

Michelle Obama Calls on Nation to Support Military Families

Transparency:

Obama adminstration brings back the Freedom of Information Act and transparency in government

Obama Caps White House Staff Salaries, Promises Openness

Lobbyists pushed off advisory panelsWhite House initiative to limit influence could affect thousands

Schools & Education:

Obama: Broadband Essential for Economic Recovery

Obama pledges schools upgrade in stimulus plan

Obama Signs Overhaul of Student Loan Program

Green:

Obama acts on fuel efficiency, global warming

Obama explains climate science to global warming deniers

Cash-for-clunkers rebates offered on new appliances

Obama: 1 million plug-in hybrid vehicles by 2015

Rebuilding America:

Obama puts spotlight on nation's infrastructure

Obama Housing Rescue Tackles Unemployment, Underwater Loans

Economic Stimulus (Jobs Bills)

Obama sends small-business lending bill to Congress

Obama to sign $490 million mortgage fraud bill into law

Restoring Positive Regard for America:

Obama signs order to close Guantanamo Bay facility

Obama: US Will Not Torture

Obama Strengthens U.S. Commitment to Nuclear Non-proliferation

Obama says Nobel Peace Prize is "call to action"

Positive Shift In US Policy:

Obama eases Cuba travel restrictions

Health:

Obama signs into law expansion of SCHIP health-care program for children

Obama hails deal to cut seniors' drug costs

'Doughnut hole' Medicare drug rebates start going to seniors soon

Obama Signs Health Care Overhaul Bill, With a Flourish

Obama signs bill putting tobacco products under FDA oversight

Obama’s New Safety Cops

Innovation:

Obama's Cybersecurity Initiative Wins Praise

Targeting Crooks:

Obama Calls for Curbs on Offshore Tax Havens

Obama win raises pressure on Swiss banking secrecy

Obama Seeks End of Corporate Tax Break to Raise $190 Billion

reply to post by bluemirage5

There's a new tone in his voice and yes his demenor has completely changed.

Yup, I noticed that too, distant, aloof,detached,subdued, maybe he is on the downward swing of bipolar, sedated?