Obama tells Americans: Do NOT prepare for radioactive fallout, just listen to your government

Originally posted by Freelancer
reply to post by RelentlessLurker

 

And 'controlled' release of 1000's of nukes means its radiation fallout is somehow safer than a reactor meltdown? There is certainly a possibility the damaged reactors in Japan may or may not get worse, my post was to highlight ONLY what has already happened thus far.

If we look at the Chernobyl disaster of 1986 we see that:-

The Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986 at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine). It is considered the worst nuclear power plant accident in history, and it is the only one classified as a level 7 event on the International Nuclear Event Scale.

Four hundred times more radioactive material was released than had been by the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. However, compared to the total amount released by nuclear weapons testing during the 1950s and 1960s, the Chernobyl disaster released 1/100 to 1/1000 the radioactivity.

in short the answer is yes.

when they test weapons there are many factors they use to their advantage such as weather conditions and location. hence 'controlled'. hell, even scheduled.

IF its done aboveground (many in that video were not), its usually in weak points in the jet stream where fallout can be predicted and kept minimal.

this is not the case with fukushima.

on top of that, a 'bomb' has a dramaticly different release, the 2 are hardly comparable.

i understand that when this reality is ignored and they are compared anyway, it might make the situation seem better.

but its apples and oranges.

furthermore, Hiroshima was released in 1 instant concentrated burst. whereas fukushima is slowly releasing over the span of over a week, giving the wind way more oppurtunities to shift, thus giving it far more spread.

you may call this 'disappaitng', but something that takes 80 million years to decay doesnt 'disappait'...it spreads.

www.youtube.com...

Does the first part (30 second mark) of this sound familiar? Yes, right now we just have the radiation from the spent fuel rods drifting our way, but if the reactors do breech then I think we'll have a steady flow of radiation heading our way in the jet stream.

Woe to the blind, who heed this message. I consider myself to be middle of the road politically. This, however is a prime example of why i caucus with Republicans. Big government want control of the people and for them to blindly follow and allow it to 'take care' of us in times of crisis. This contradicts human instinct, and for that matter, the natural instinct of pretty much any creature. Self-sufficiency is the only sure bet!

And the average joe will listen to Obama but when the radiation hits America where will the blame go to? Scientists. Thats right. Obama will blame that he "was not sure" with the information given to him at that time by his so called advisors and scientists. (not that I'm attacking scientists, I'm just pointing out the fact that they are being manipulated)

Yes - just sit and give up - we want you all to fry. Give up control the big brother knows what to do to you.

reply to post by Amaterasu

The disaster began during a systems test on 26 April 1986 at reactor number four of the Chernobyl plant, which is near the town of Pripyat. There was a sudden power output surge, and when an emergency shutdown was attempted, a more extreme spike in power output occurred, which led to a reactor vessel rupture and a series of explosions. This event exposed the graphite moderator components of the reactor to air, causing them to ignite. The resulting fire sent a plume of radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area, including Pripyat.

source with pictures

Maybe next time you don't want to put your foot in your mouth you should do some research about subjects you know nothing about!

Chernobyl was a level 7 nuclear event.
3 mile island was a level 5 event
Japan is a level 4 now upgraded to a level 5 event.

Chernobyl is the worst nuclear reactor disaster to date.

The type of fuel is irreleavant. its the concentration of radioactive material that is released in the air that causes radiation sickness and eventually kills you. EVEN THE IAEA is saying that Japan's disater is NO WERE NEAR as bad as Chernobyl! I know it must be hard for you to understand since your probably praying that this event gets worse so you can feed your doom and gloom need.

Distance, concentrations are not on your side to cause any health affects in the U.S. ANY fallout that was in the air fell into the pacific ocean with the rain deluting it even more. If you knew even just a little about radiation and fallout and used just a little bit of common sense you would realise that what Obama and all the experts are saying is true. I know thats hard for some people to do because they don't have ANY COMMON SENSE.

reply to post by Amaterasu


blah blah blah nixon BBBlah Reagen, Bush, Bush 2, Obamee. then the next chick! and the next. every leader is the doom bringer when it rains but when its sunny they can screw interns and accidently hurt/kill thousands. raise taxes parrallel to wasteful spending and bye billions worth of "new cars" like 10 million$ tanks that depreciate everyday. they spend little on the people and tonnes (litterly tonnes of paper) worth of benjimens on metal to hurl at metal. ppl win wars not tanks not jets not thermonuclear subs. if i take the ground, i own the air and water by default. i realise you cant walk up to a tank commander and demand surrender, but its the people as a whole who suck. not the bosses.

Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
furthermore, Hiroshima was released in 1 instant concentrated burst. whereas fukushima is slowly releasing over the span of over a week, giving the wind way more oppurtunities to shift, thus giving it far more spread.

you may call this 'disappaitng', but something that takes 80 million years to decay doesnt 'disappait'...it spreads.

were do you get 80 million years? the last i heard the half life of the fuels used in the MOX fuel reactor was 24,000 years not 80 million years.

you also know that nuclear material in the air will spread out thus disappaiting the concentration of said particles in the air!

reply to post by Uncrwnd5thEmperor


the people are to blame for most of the deathes in the world. when a guy reaches down to get his soda while driving his big city truck and smokes some kid is it aliens? obama? maybe it was one of of who mentaly made him do it! you me and our love of stuff and need to do nothing all day...thats what is going to destroy the earth.
i say if an alien race shows up we do what the natives did in north america and offer all the best spots for little in return. hopefully the trickle down effect will be like speeder bikes and instant food cooking.

reply to post by Jazzscapez

You know how it is. Do the EXACT OPPOSITE your government tells you.

In that case, Americans in Japan should ignore this then:

But Obama said the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and other scientific experts believe the danger from radiation spewing out of the Fukushima power plant extends well beyond the 12-mile radius Japanese officials have suggested, and he warned Americans living in Japan to evacuate within a 50-mile radius.

abcnews.go.com...

Funny how natural news doesn't mention this while ranting like hate filled idiots.

What a ridiculous, biased source.

reply to post by Uncrwnd5thEmperor


I think you need to keep off the Marijuana. If you did a bit of research you'd learn that the bosses you refer to are all related in bloodlines. They are not all separate. And they are selected, not elected into power.

So wake up and smell the coffee.

Get your facts right first!!

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Jazzscapez

 

You know how it is. Do the EXACT OPPOSITE your government tells you.

In that case, Americans in Japan should ignore this then:

But Obama said the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and other scientific experts believe the danger from radiation spewing out of the Fukushima power plant extends well beyond the 12-mile radius Japanese officials have suggested, and he warned Americans living in Japan to evacuate within a 50-mile radius.

abcnews.go.com...

Funny how natural news doesn't mention this while ranting like hate filled idiots.

What a ridiculous, biased source.

I can't agree or disagree on that point but with the British Government and the US Government I wouldn't trust them with a potato gun. But the topic of this thread was what Obama said to the pulic regarding not preparing for radiation fallout. I myself am surprised by this.....Or Maybe Not.......If the program called Agenda 21 is being used in this case.

6 and half a dozen..........I'd rather be prepared than not.

I'm going to rant like an alleged hate filled idiot and say the following:
I want to punch Obama right in his pretty little mouth really really really freaking hard.....over and over again....and one more time for good measure. Then I thin we can call it a day. Man I feel better already just thinking about it.
Being a hate filled idiot paid off today I'll have to do this more often.

Originally posted by Freelancer

Four hundred times more radioactive material was released than had been by the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. However, compared to the total amount released by nuclear weapons testing during the 1950s and 1960s, the Chernobyl disaster released 1/100 to 1/1000 the radioactivity.[/ex

Pardon me for noticing, but the difference between 1/100 and 1/1000 is an order of magnitude. Can't they pin it down a little better than that? I mean, that is one hell of a difference, which leads me to suspect they are guessing.

Originally posted by Mercenary2007
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

source with pictures

Maybe next time you don't want to put your foot in your mouth you should do some research about subjects you know nothing about!

Well thank you for that gentle correction. So kind.

I guess my memory is failing me (prolly all that radioactivity I got from the exploded Chernobyl reactor...).

this coming from the same guy that told
Americans to get the H1N1 flu shot cause it was for their health
Of which of course turned out to be a lie

reply to post by stevcolx


Isn't it funny that the citizens will actually listen to him? They still believe in change, and they still think the promises will come true.

In times like these, I wonder how it is that our population isn't awake? How can they not see this garbage that is going on in front of them?

I don't know, but there is nothing you can do

-Will

Originally posted by WillNiendick
reply to post by stevcolx

 

Isn't it funny that the citizens will actually listen to him? They still believe in change, and they still think the promises will come true.

In times like these, I wonder how it is that our population isn't awake? How can they not see this garbage that is going on in front of them?

I don't know, but there is nothing you can do

-Will

Yeah I know. They still believe they voted him into power in the first place. Screwed up world isn't it? When people like him and Bush are put into power under the guise of the fixed voting process. And the sheeple still believe that the US and UK are democratic countries.........Sheesh!!

Originally posted by stevcolx

Originally posted by WillNiendick
reply to post by stevcolx

 

Isn't it funny that the citizens will actually listen to him? They still believe in change, and they still think the promises will come true.

In times like these, I wonder how it is that our population isn't awake? How can they not see this garbage that is going on in front of them?

I don't know, but there is nothing you can do

-Will

Yeah I know. They still believe they voted him into power in the first place. Screwed up world isn't it? When people like him and Bush are put into power under the guise of the fixed voting process. And the sheeple still believe that the US and UK are democratic countries.........Sheesh!!

= win

Haha, could not have said it better myself.