Kiss Your Internet Goodbye!

Originally posted by TheRanchMan
The U.S. government would NOT shut down the internet. I don't who your sources are, but they are full of CRAP. Waste of post.

Are you serving with the US government, or have you ever, in any capacity, served in the past?

I appreciate your opinions on this matter and I thank you for bringing this thread back. It's amazing how long it has lived. Obviously, it hit a nerve.

As for my sources, I give them two thumbs up, as they have yet to disappoint me or lead me astray.

Originally posted by TheRanchMan
The U.S. government would NOT shut down the internet. I don't who your sources are, but they are full of CRAP. Waste of post.

Yeah, because they are not able to shut down the internet. However they at worst can disable websites located in the US and som pretty important root DNS servers

Everything except US domain names / websites hosted in US is definitely recoverable (root DNSes, DNS timeouts, etc.).

So when they shut it down (I think this is extra *very* unlikely), internet will work - without the good stuff from the USA, though.

So once again dear members, US government is not able to shut down the internet (this is technically not possible). They can however create some serious usability problems.


[edit on 2006-1-1 by zer69]

How about this user problem - power outtages..

That is very possible. I don't know many people out there who will be able to engage the internet without power. That would be the first step in disabling the citizenry.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
How about this user problem - power outtages..

That is very possible. I don't know many people out there who will be able to engage the internet without power. That would be the first step in disabling the citizenry.

Hey EastCoastKid,

nobody, but you know that. Frankly, I don't understand your post too much.

It's really easy to go on about how because of commerce and what not, the internet cannot be shut down.

All it takes for a region to be shut down is one little act of "mother nature." Or mother nature, for real.

No power. Without power, we are at the mercy of whatever in God's name will restore our power, our normalcy.

Without power it's hard to do much of anything other than surviving. If regions were blocked off from power, there wouldn't be much internet activity going on. That is what I call shutting down web access.

It's just one scenario..

With total power outage... not just local .. then we have bigger problems than not being able to get our free porn.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
It was interesting to me that they mentioned those sites, in particular. I stopped going to all three shortly after 9-11. They're as bad as FOX "news."

Why are people so afraid of one cable news outlet?
People tend to shoot the messenger for the news\facts they bring..... so sad.

[edit on 3-1-2006 by zappafan1]

Originally posted by zappafan1

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
They're as bad as FOX "news."

Why are people so afraid of one cable news outlet?
People tend to shoot the messenger for the news\facts they bring..... so sad.

afraid of? wrong word, maybe?

repulsed by, reviled by, angered by, enfuriated by..... better.

news/facts? wrong words, maybe?

spin, partial truth, lies, hate speech..... better.

a really nice side effect of shutting off the power, is that people will INSTANTLY form antropolgic physical networks(like the old days), also known as 'like-minded communities', and 'word of mouth'.

they say in a small town, the rumours come out before the event. now, THAT'S 'HIGH-SPEED'!

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Are you serving with the US government, or have you ever, in any capacity, served in the past?

I don't think the U.S. gov't hires 15 year olds.


It would be cool though.

The only thing your sources really wrote was a story to scare people into thinking that the terrorists will destroy us using the thing we use every day: the internet (the toilet would be a close second).

It's not going to happen, folks, and the idea of shutting down the power grid is just too much. Some people are just way too paranoid, or will do anything to their "thoughts" on the web.

Internet sales hit a new high last year, including the holiday season: $30 Billion.

Get a grip!

Get a life!

its not gonna happen

I'm late into this thread because I rarely visit PTS. But ECK, you say the "elite" dont like our exchange of ideas. If they are so powerful, what do they care? Youre not using logic at all. I dont personally believe in any of the 9/11, Illuminati conspiracy stories, because to me, they defy all reasonable logic. The Internet is just as important a tool to the government as it is to us, they need it as much as we do, so no, there will be no shutting down the internet. Just another paranoid rant in a string of many I have noticed from you ECK.

Yes but the U.S. Government is now going after Google's Database - this is BAD Foreshadowing. They are using the guise of Fighting "Child Pornography". Question - why can't the Feds just go directly for the Child Pornographers & their various Web Sites/Outlets? Why do they need to know what people have been searching on in Google since like the beginning of time? Look out George Orwell - here we come!!!

Actually, for all we know the internet could already be censored and in fact it already is.

Use ATS as an example, we are controlled what we can publish, write and link to and from - this is a level of control. [One which a private company is allowed to do.] However, what happens when more and more begin to use the same control? The freedom of information is stopped.

The internet, as people see it is an amazing idea, one where anything we desire to know can be found out but this is never the truth and it never will be. Just like books and television, there is control and regulations placed upon it that we can not change or alter.

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Yes but the U.S. Government is now going after Google's Database - this is BAD Foreshadowing. They are using the guise of Fighting "Child Pornography". Question - why can't the Feds just go directly for the Child Pornographers & their various Web Sites/Outlets? Why do they need to know what people have been searching on in Google since like the beginning of time? Look out George Orwell - here we come!!!

I spent 2 years doing innocent image investigation for the Tier 1 ISP I worked for.. bout 80 or 90 percent of the violation I submitted to the FBI office came back to me as unusable..

Basically the images reside on servers that exist in countried where it is not illegal.. or they are mirrors to servers in other counries whre there is no jurisdition etc etc etc...

It is VERY difficult to do more than enforce an AUP from the provider and that just results in them showing up 2 days latter somewhere else.

Originally posted by ludaChris
I'm late into this thread because I rarely visit PTS. But ECK, you say the "elite" dont like our exchange of ideas. If they are so powerful, what do they care? Youre not using logic at all. I dont personally believe in any of the 9/11, Illuminati conspiracy stories, because to me, they defy all reasonable logic. The Internet is just as important a tool to the government as it is to us, they need it as much as we do, so no, there will be no shutting down the internet. Just another paranoid rant in a string of many I have noticed from you ECK.

Uh.. and you think the government would be without the "internet" if we were?

You know what? There are way too many people here who just don't grasp how easy and how quickly your/our lives could be screwed up beyond belief. You think the internet is always gonna be there, like power. You don't even think about your power, 'cos you think its a birthright like the constitution, whatever the hell that means anymore in this brave new patriot act world we live in.

You folks should really get out more and go visit everyone else on earth. It might trip you out and speak to you.

We Americans take so much for grantid, most here can't even imagine.
Understand this: if a catastrophic event occurred in your area, my area, you would no longer enjoy any of the amenitites you now enjoy. YOu would be completely cut off from soft ass western existence. And you definitely would not have the internet. But I assure you of this: your government's access to the internet and email and power and all that would be humming right along. So I would encourage you all to get prepared, or join the military or governement and get ready for a meltdown, 'cos odds are right now, it ain't too far in the future.

Anyone who sez different is naive, to be kind.

Whoever moved this thread out of war on terror is very ignorant of its content.

I shall now await my warning.

This thread is WAR on TERROR. At least if that is actually something real.