US Air Force WC-135 Detects Deadly Radiation Over Pacific (US in 24hrs)

Hey TRUMC77 again great call on the going to GNC any of their GNC Multivitamin's have a 150mcg of Iodine (as Potassium Iodide) however the does is 2 pills and as far as I understand you need at least 200mcg's for it to be effective so i think taking 3 pill should be safe enough. Here is the link guys look at the lable tab and zoom in you'll see for yourselfs and thanks CordDragonzord So everyone spread the word I'd even maybe open a thread due to the situation but I personally can't yet need my 20 posts first.

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damn i knew i should have bought shares in potassium iodine....hmmm wonder who is one of the largest shareholders in potassium iodine tablets.

just a few other tidbits...

What is the role of potassium iodide in radiological emergency preparedness?

Potassium iodide is a special kind of protective measure in that it offers very specialized protection. Potassium iodide protects the thyroid gland against internal uptake of radioiodines that may be released in the unlikely event of a nuclear reactor accident.

The purpose of radiological emergency preparedness is to protect people from the effects of radiation exposure after an accident at a nuclear power plant. Evacuation is the most effective protective measure in the event of a radiological emergency because it protects the whole body (including the thyroid gland and other organs) from all radionuclides and all exposure pathways. Administering KI can be a reasonable, prudent, and inexpensive supplement to in-place sheltering and evacuation.

Why does the rule require States to consider the use of potassium iodide instead of mandating its use?

The NRC will not require use of potassium iodide by the general public because the NRC believes that current emergency planning and protective measures--evacuation and sheltering--are adequate and protective of public health and safety. However, the NRC recognizes the supplemental value of potassium iodide and the prerogative of the States to decide the appropriateness of the use of potassium iodide by its citizens.

The NRC believes the final rule together with the decision to provide funding for the purchase of a State's supply of potassium iodide strikes a proper balance between encouraging (but not requiring) State authorities to take advantage of the benefits of potassium iodide.

By requiring consideration of the use of potassium iodide, the Commission recognizes the important role of States and local governments in matters of emergency planning.

This rule applies to States and Tribal governments that have a nuclear power plant within their borders and populations within the 10-mile emergency planning zone and to local governments designated by States to request funding for potassium iodide.

stop with the fear mongering..notice 10 mile radius...do you live within ten miles of Japan

Full Core Meltdown In Japan Will Send Radiation Over United States

and the obvious cover up of this nightmare
both explosion were massive .. sending shockwave in the sky

The news keeps repeating that this is a hydrogen explosion. But Hydrogen, when it burns, burns with a clear blue flame, almost invisible. Note the orange flash at the moment of the blast. Hydrogen, when it burns, produces water vapor, or steam. The combustion products emerging from the ruined reactor do not look like a steam blast. Burning hydrogen is not high-velocity, so pulverized concrete does not account for the color. As a side note, burned Plutonium, Pu4+, is yellow brown.

Many people will get sick and die .. if they were to release the real bad news .. the public would panic and the market would crash...

the government know the public dont like bad news like that

Hey.. this could be a good use of HAARP.. they can readjust the jet stream and send it away from US and Canada

reply to post by exile1981


I have a connection, already put aside. You are right though,
I dont want to alarm anyone, but the stores here are already hit hard.

However I am allergic to iodine, so I think I will just have to spread some tincture on my arm
I will get a rash, but I think I can handle that.

One reason I am posting in this thread.

I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is not one household in Japan that prepared,
and is regretting it now. Most have been without food and heat for 4 days.

Now for the most serious news of the day...



Well, this is John Large talking here, a nuclear expert.
But hey, what the heck does he know anyways...

“EXPERT DOUBTS GOVERNMENT­...

Nuclear expert John Large today questioned Fukushima'­s '4' status, telling The First Post: "We're not getting the informatio­n out of the government but I would say this is a significan­t nuclear event. You don't blow the top off a building and say it's not."

Japanese Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said today that there was the possibilit­y of an explosion at the No 3 reactor but he was confident the steel containing vessel around the core of the reactor would withstand the blast – as it did when No 1 reactor blew up on Saturday.
Large said he found this hard to believe.

The "jellyfish­" shape of Saturday's explosion and the decision to vent the reactor's secondary containmen­t – releasing radioactiv­e vapour and necessitat­ing the evacuation of local people – all suggest fuel rods had melted and leaked from the primary containmen­t.”

Source

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I would like to say thank you for taking the time to post....and I would agree that there is no deadly cloud coming over to the states even if the reactor suffered full meltdown.
Some people just seem to like to try to spread panic and i hope that you can do everything possible to help the people that are suffering in Japan right now...they have lost so much and need all our help and support.

Please for the love of God, only take ONE pill of PI a day, at 130mg. This is the required doseage and anything more your talking about adverse side-effect and implications on your health.

As for the Carrier Ship offshore, its inevitable that the particles would have been blown into the upper levels of the atmosphere, carrier by fine winds and convective clouds, allowing dispersal into the jetstream that much quicker. Your not really talking about dangerous levels at ground-level unless your much closer to the plant, where all the material & debris would have been scattered from the resulting explosions. The finer stuff is being carried over your heads by the jet, rather than at sea level a toxic 'gas cloud.' Only to fall back to ground again through moisture inhibition when that jestream hits the landmass of America.

Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

Was there a cover up at Chernobyl?

Was there a cover up at TMI?

A2D

1) Yes

2 ) No

What's the dose for young children? I'm not believing any of this scaremongering is true but it never hurts to be prepared if things do go bad.

Especially with a toddler in the house...


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Originally posted by ThinkingCap
I don't know who was knocking Boondocks earlier,
But stay away from my alternative news providers.
And furthermore, if more people wrote with his style,
We'd all understand eachother a lot easier. In fact,
I think from now on I am going to steal his writing
Style.

hey, I'm already waiting on my
patent to process, you may have
to wait in line as David Grouchy
is right behind me as are many
other prose writers current and
past
lol

hey look a 24 page thread based on total bull crap one sourced garbage.

I have looked through several Vancouver media sites.

I can find no other mention of any such preparations against "deadly radiation"....

For those wanting to know the difference between a Meltdown and a Nuclear Bomb:

Meltdowns are different than Nuclear (or hydrogen) explosions.

Most nuclear testing was done in isolated areas, and once the effects were determined, in controlled environments (buried in the desert, under water)

But to compare the two:

In a nuclear explosion, typified by a bomb, the major burden of fission products is produced essentially immediately within the very short duration of the nuclear event. When a nuclear explosion occurs in the air atmosphere, the entire inventory of fission products that is produced is, in theory, available to produce external radiation dose from the radiations, especially the gamma radiation, and potential internal dose, following inhalation and ingestion of the material. Naturally, many of the fission products become quickly unavailable because of their very short half-lives; such nuclides disappear by radioactive decay

Basically from a nuclear explosion the radiation is released instantly and is short lived, until the element dissolves.. those who within the first few days inhale or ingest the radiation will suffer the high doses and become ill and or die. This is why so many people in the Japanese explosions became sick, their children deformed, but yet they are fully functional cities today.

Whereas a Meltdown, which we can look at Chernobyl as an example, become inhospitable wastelands, that site and surrounding area was abandoned, and is still a ghost-land where Humans cannot live.

In the case of an accident at a nuclear power plant, a nuclear-bomb-type event is not possible, and the kinds of accidents that might occur are generally incapable of dispersing the entire contents of the core, which contains the radioactivity, into the general environment. Usually, the most volatile radionuclides are the ones most likely to be released when the barriers against dispersal are compromised.

www.hps.org...

So a nuclear meltdown can (note can) have a much smaller affected area depending upon the type of meltdown, whether or not an explosion is involved, and whether the particles are ejected into the atmosphere. The radiation of a Nuclear plant has a half life of 60 years, meaning an effected area will be inhospitable for decades to hundreds of years (Chernobyl). Chernobyl's explosion ripped the core and blew the building apart, ejecting huge quantities of radiation into the atmosphere, which coated the Earth for miles around the site in a fine radioactive dust that seeps into the soil. The Japanese have lost two reactor housing complexes through hydrogen explosions, but the reactors (they claim) are intact and still housing the fuel .. this means the only radiation ejected will come from water/steam from cooling and air pressure being released from the reactor. But if the core heats to the point where the reactor is compromised, the fuel could be ejected into the atmosphere because the Reactor's housing shell was destroyed in both cases (Reactor 1 and 3).

So in short a Nuclear Meltdown is far worse than a Nuclear Explosion in terms of long lasting effects.

Originally posted by karen61057
quote/we have the US Navy confirming that 17
sailors have radiation poisoning/ quote


We have 17 sailors who were contaminated and who were cleaned up with a regular shower. We DO NOT have 17 sailors with radiation poisioning. There is a hugh difference. Stop making this worse than it is. Do you get some kind of thrill out of this or what?

I stand corrected
it does say radiation contamination
and not radiation poisoning, my bad.
I misquoted in haste to post my point
at the time. Still the correction does not
defer the contents of this thread. But thank
you for keeping me on my toes

Little FYI for people asking. Dosages for potassium iodide by age. And frequency of dosages as well

www.bt.cdc.gov...

How much KI should I take?

The FDA has approved two different forms of KI—tablets and liquid—that people can take by mouth after a nuclear radiation emergency. Tablets come in two strengths, 130 milligram (mg) and 65 mg. The tablets are scored so they may be cut into smaller pieces for lower doses. Each milliliter (mL) of the oral liquid solution contains 65 mg of KI.
According to the FDA, the following doses are appropriate to take after internal contamination with (or likely internal contamination with) radioactive iodine:

* Adults should take 130 mg (one 130 mg tablet OR two 65 mg tablets OR two mL of solution).
* Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose of 130 mg.
* Children between 3 and 18 years of age should take 65 mg (one 65 mg tablet OR 1 mL of solution). Children who are adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the full adult dose, regardless of their age.
* Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 32 mg (½ of a 65 mg tablet OR ½ mL of solution). This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing infants and children.
* Newborns from birth to 1 month of age should be given 16 mg (¼ of a 65 mg tablet or ¼ mL of solution). This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants.

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I'm in the Fraser Valley, and the problem here, is the Gov will not be telling the truth.

1. You quoted the Shroom cloud. That reactor was plutonium and THAT IS A MUSHROOM. It means, full meltdown, no matter what lies they say, FULL. That is a SHROOM. There is not mistaking it.

2. Plutonium has a life of 24 000 years. It is highly toxic and deadly in small amounts.

3. I understand why Kamploops. Same with the Okanagan, ie. South Okanagan. We don't know whether to jump in the car, which doesn't have enough seats for us, ie. two adults and 4 kids, in a small one, and head to Penticton, without lodging. We've been talking about doing just that. I am going to get a kind of packing going and gas up just in case, but getting caught in something bad wouldn't be great either. The coast is a fallout zone because of the massive rainfall. Once you cross the coastal mountains to the interior, Kamploops to Osoyoos, Okanagan, its a semi desert with small rainfall. I don't know if it matters with these particular isotopes or not. It would matter with some types of isotopes for sure, but I'm not an expert. I am just pressuming that in the Jet Stream affected map, (which quite frankly is going to be the whole northern hemisphere because that is what this means, but to what extent. A significant one or slight hazzard?), that the Okanagan will be safer than any area with rain fall. And the coast will be the worst.

4. There are other warnings I have heard about that may happen soon, so maybe evacuating due to this would be a good thing. Maybe heading away from the coast is a good thing. Though, I was told that north of Mount Saint Helens is going to raise up if that happens, not go down, but have no real idea of what that means. We're nearly 2 hours inland.

5. They're not going to tell the truth, so what this amounts to is, you can't trust any sources, both online fear tactics, or government ones, so it leaves us in a real dead end, and I believe On Purpose.

6. This isn't Chenobyl and that had really severe consequences they havent talked about. But my mother got leukemia, as a child, after the nuclear testing years in Nevada. This isn't going to be minor. This is far worse than Chenobyl. That was SHROOM. That was plutonium. That was the second explosion. Three of them so far, and possibly 2 more to come. Multiply Chenboyl by X numbers of time, and put plutonium into the equation please.

I think this speaks volumes to the situation.

So many people died because when the nine-magnitude Pacific Ocean earthquake struck 80 miles off the coast of Sendai, warnings were issued that a tsunami would hit land in an hour.

But survivors said it struck in nine minutes.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by zeeon
Knowing this, I find it highly speculative that such a "Deadly" radiation cloud is going to strike the United States. We, as it is, are right off the coast of Japan and we were exposed to a very minor amount.

while I have no doubt you are legit
posting from the USS Reagan.
But what I do have reservations about
is your speculation that you can successfully
predict no radiation reaching the US Coast.
Unless you control the weather and the jet stream
and the containment efforts in Japan then
you yourself cannot make this statement.
And if your Commanding Officer has stated
this to you, then he is lying to you as well.

Mind you, from what I've read, the worst
may be yet to come as the Japanese Gov
has stated they believe all 3 reactors are
currently in meltdown.

What's funny is I was reading the following extensive article before I came on to discover this Post. Sorry if someone already posted this somewhere

Could Fall-out From Japan Reach the U.S Coast


Here's some basic info info from article

Scientists in the U.S. warned today of a 'worst-case scenario' in which the highly radioactive material could be blasted into the atmosphere and blown towards the West Coast of America.

Ok... we are all in agreement this is a hoax? If not, and we all bug out of here, PM me if you absolutely need a lift from the high desert area in Oregon going east. I got room for one but, if life or death is concerned, we can always practice field acquisition