Dear Humans, We Are Alone in this world! No ETs/superbeings :-( So Sad...

We are alone only this way:

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"Loneliness
We suffer a lot in our society from loneliness. So much of our life is an attempt to not be lonely: 'Let's talk to each other; let's do things together so we won't be lonely.' And yet inevitably, we are really alone in these human forms. We can pretend; we can entertain each other; but that's about the best we can do. When it comes to the actual experience of life, we're very much alone; and to expect anyone else to take away our loneliness is asking too much.
- Buddhist Monk"

One of the main contradictions of our existence.

Originally posted by laymanskeptic

Originally posted by Gloster
NO!!! NO!!!! NO!!!!......no turtle nijas? come on!! Im going to create a big robot myself and he will crush all humans... ill make him create more tsunamis BWAHAHAHA and throw cars at all the humans HAHAHA

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Its people like you that make me want to make an even bigger robot than yours!

It will save humans from your tsunamis and your robot's awesome power.

Because my robot uses fusion power from the sun!!!

My robot will make your robot have little babies

reply to post by laymanskeptic


I have no clue if there are aliens flying around us or not. But...if they were, and they were benevolent, the best thing they could do to help us is not help us. It's not their place, and how could we evolve as a species if some superhero came in and fixed all of our problems? YAY for you not relying on a savior! S & F

Originally posted by rusethorcain
When the alternative damages any part of society it will be found unacceptable by mental crutch or scientific validity.

Nope, total cop-out. You can keep hiding behind rhetoric but maybe you are also scientifically illiterate. When you can finally formulate "good" and "bad" in scientific terms such that you feel it could pass a peer review, then get back to me.

I think the OP had a few points overshadowed by some debatable declarations. Good for you demonstrating the irrationality of the OP but really looks like a glass house you are sitting in.

I am in no house at all, sir. I am telling you that there are no houses here to even be throwing stones at in the first place.


OP's statement -- not right or wrong, but fallacious reasoning.

God -- not right or wrong, but unproven.

"Good" and "bad" -- scientifically/objectively undefinable.


If you are equating a house with an opinion, there are no houses about any of that. Let alone anything made of glass.

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no, I didn't worked my way tru all the comments...
writing this after reading some of laymanskeptics:

While I feel your reasoning in the OP is... how can I say this without... let's say... suboptimal,
I'm amused by the overall tone of voice of that post and some replies.
kinda like the discours.
I do agree with the call to action in the OP: I too do believe it's us tiny creatures inclined with a weakly developed capacity to reflect upon stuff, who should act instead of hoping some external being is going to make our day.
And I couldn't agree more with a statement in a reply of yours: we are indeed utterly irrelevant, except for ourselves. Most of us seem to turn that to their advantage: if it's relevant to us, it's relevant. I for one tend to think that we just love delusions.

Oh, how much I love the human bean!
and et's, of course.
imagine a world without et's. wouldn't that be boring? shouldn't we invent them, in such case?

reply to post by laymanskeptic


AMEN!

And STOP PRAYING FOR GOD TO SAVE YOU AND SAVE YOURSELF!

I will take 4 hands working over 1 billion praying ANY DAY!

I am not saying you should not pray, its great, it helps- IT REALLY DOES.

But God, the Verse, Joe Pesci will do and be as it will and if you want change you have to bring it, the more change the harder the work needed to create it.

STOP PRAYING AND START DOING!
The "Gods plan" excuse it DONE WITH! ITS OVER FOR that cop out.
GENOCIDE is not "Gods" plan according to all his best sellers.
Murder, Starvation, Greed and the systems that support such again not in gods plan and in order to change them YOU HAVE TO FRACKING DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!

So no, no UFO's and savior Venus Reptile Gods gonna save us OR maybe.. MAYBE they are waiting for us to GET OFF OUR ASS AND MAKE THE EFFORT OURSELVES THEN THEY WILL HELP!
Kinda like helping your brother mow the lawn.. Why start before he does? No, we waited and when bro started so did we and then we worked together instead of being supported.

Anyway, I hope this one doesn't get deleted
I am Kinda tired of being censored by.. hehe get this A CONSPIRACY SITE!

Maybe they follow the prime directive.....The Prime Directive dictates that there can be no interference with the internal development of pre-warp civilizations, consistent with the historical real world concept of Westphalian sovereignty. (From Wikipedia) Just a thought.

I know your are saying that they are not here on earth or in or skies , rather than in the universe ... i hope you do believe in life elsewhere, get here or not ? very debatable ...

However , why do you assume if they are here .. they are here to help us?

How do you know they are not sitting in orbit preparing their invasion plans and laughing at us as the sea does their job for them .. why do you think they would be benevalont?

My experience with forms of life is survival of the fittest ..life feeds off life in weird and sometimes abhorrent circumstances, why do you assume that intelligent life from elsewhere would be different and thus base your OP on this and saying this is why they are not here.. strange.....

i post the below video because it helps your cause, is fantastic and also mentions what you are talking about here, thinking someone or something is going to save us from ourselves...

i've said it here a thousand times before .. only 2 Emotions on our planet ... all other emotions stem from them .. this is fact....

LOVE and FEAR which side is everyone on? to survive we must love, if we fear or spread fear we are doomed as a species....




Stop praying and start doing...

you can pray for god to save us for aliens to save us .. heck you can pray for the flying sphagetti monster to save us... what a complete waste of time .. we must save ourselves

reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel


LOL I was thinking Pale Blue Dot as well when writing my statement.

S n F for you!

Originally posted by Loki Lyesmyth
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LOL I was thinking Pale Blue Dot as well when writing my statement.

S n F for you!

roger that lol
its a classic

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Calm down. It was an expression. Maybe you never heard of it.
"When the alternative damages"....even nature has things like erosion and pollution, that are preventable and decidedly "bad" and by that I mean have a "negative" impact here and now or in the long run. There are things to polish up and preserve. I know it is a lot of work but it has to be done. There is consensus and agreement on a basic list of good and bad by a peer group of people affected. It is relative in a few cases involving ones religion but as far as humans in general on the earth there ARE good and bad examples, instances and happenings that are universal.
If something is for all practical purposes so, then it is so.
Perhaps by some scientific reasoning undiscovered or enlightenment that has not yet dawned on you and your peers, there are positive and negative, good and bad directions and elements for human beings.
One example is rust. You can prevent it with care. There is no good rust. Another is cancer, like rust it is always a destroyer of what is "good."
Don't you worry....The God connection is probably coincidental.

HOAX!

You have NO proof therefore it is a hoax.

Why are skeptics allowed to insult people who believe and even have insulting thread titles but when a believer says something insulting their thread gets closed?

Why isn't this thread in the hoax section?He has NO proof whatsoever.

Doesn't feel very good does it?Instead of trying to debate the topic with you I'm just trying to move your thread or get it closed so people don't see it.Classic skeptic tactic.And instead of being a nice person by having a nice calm discussion about a topic you seem interested in,I just insult and laugh at you like you skeptics do..."Where's your proof"?Doesn't matter what you say "I want proof"!

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Did you pull over beside that creek this morning and stop that rising water from wiping out that ant colony?

I didn't think so. What about that flock of birds that dropped from the sky? Why didn't you save them?

Oh, I guess you just happened to be too busy being a human.

Be careful ... some of those birds and ants might stop believing in you if you keep failing to save them from natural occurrences.

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Thank you god for finally answering some very valuable questions for us.....

2nd line.

Originally posted by rusethorcain
Calm down. It was an expression.
When the alternative damages....even nature has things like erosion that are preventable and decidedly "bad" and by that I mean negative impact here and in the long run.

Look, what do you really think you're convincing me of? Do you think I believe murder is "good" and am going to go out and kill a bunch of people tonight because you can't prove that it's "bad"? No.

I am only saying that "good" and "bad" are not scientifically proven. This should be very simple to understand unless you have become conditioned/brainwashed into thinking that everything YOU believe IS logical and scientific and then I can easily see where you would feel the need to chase your tail in circles here. I am not saying anything else about the environment or "negative" impacts on the long run or anything else. I don't care to dive into your whole world philosophy as it exists outside of logic and reason.

Perhaps by some scientific reasoning or enlightenment that has not yet dawned on you and your peers but there are positive and negative, good and bad directions and elements for human beings.

I never said there weren't. I said you cannot scientifically prove that "good" and "bad" exist, or even define them scientifically. The difference between you and me is that I am more careful to pay attention to details and not get hung up because a triviality is threatening my value system. Science is a tool and not my God, so I have no problem enumerating its limitations.

Originally posted by kid_cudi

Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I would love to take this opportunity to expose the hilarious
Hypocrisy of people.

For all those who see the op as wrong, remember...

You deny the existence of God based on the exact same
Argument. There is more evidence for the existence of God and his
Superhuman and very alien angels and prophets...

Yet most will deny the existence of God especially in times
Of peril.

Just remember, you do it too.

When it come to God and myself I will always stand for what I believe in. I will never deny God neither will I ever deny him in time of peril as that is when he is needed most. I love God. Yes I'm catholic so you can bash me and say what you want about my religion and hate me cuz I love God. But just remember! Would God hate anyone? No he wouldn't.

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Peter said the same thing.

As well, I guess my post wasn't for you then, was it?

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
HOAX!

You have NO proof therefore it is a hoax.

Why are skeptics allowed to insult people who believe and even have insulting thread titles but when a believer says something insulting their thread gets closed?

Why isn't this thread in the hoax section?He has NO proof whatsoever.

Doesn't feel very good does it?Instead of trying to debate the topic with you I'm just trying to move your thread or get it closed so people don't see it.Classic skeptic tactic.And instead of being a nice person by having a nice calm discussion about a topic you seem interested in,I just insult and laugh at you like you skeptics do..."Where's your proof"?Doesn't matter what you say "I want proof"!

edit on 14-3-2011 by GodIsPissed because: (no reason given)

Skeptics don't do that. Pseudo-skeptics do. Skeptics refrain from making any assertions (including the assertion that anything is or is not) without proof. ie. A skeptic cannot assert for a fact that god does not exist, that extraterrestrials are not visiting Earth, etc. We can only say, "There is insufficient evidence to constitute proof of ___________." Or, if there is proof of something, we can provide that proof (if we have it) and assert that proof. That's all a skeptic can say/do. And we can have opinions. But we cannot assert them as facts without proof. If you catch one of us doing something beyond that, please remind us that we have lapsed into psuedo-skepticism. But please don't lump all of skepticism in with that approach. Skepticism does not mean simply to refrain from belief without cause.

Peace.

reply to post by bsbray11


Maybe death isn't a bad thing,and that's why they or it don't do nothing.Maybe they/it don't know it's a bad thing to us.

Could be they know something we don't.

But if all you have is insults instead of actual discussions then what does that make us humans?

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
Maybe death isn't a bad thing,and that's why they or it don't do nothing.Maybe they/it don't know it's a bad thing to us.

Could be they know something we don't.

Maybe, and could be.

But if all you have is insults instead of actual discussions then what does that make us humans?

I'm not sure where the insult is, or why we are not having an "actual discussion" right now.

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The only people who fear death are those who have not lived a full life.

I never understood why come groups care so much about living, when they die they get to meet Jesus right?

I spent 12 years looking for my Jesus, thank goodness he comes every other week and does a great job on the edging.