Critical New Quake Could Mean Impending Disaster For Japan

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Hello Brother

I see you still use the software guess you getting a bit rusty with that sensory detection of yours
Keep on trucking much work to be done here in the coming times indeed Saturday and Sunday this week should be interesting. Maybe even Friday as well just hope the people will be ok there is some involvement done to prevent the stuff from getting too intense as you already are aware of no doubt.

Anyway LOL!!! keep these folks up to date brother and I know who you are

USA and Russia are threatening Canada with a nuclear disaster for saying they will take Japan in!!!

After the Japanese disaster the Canadian people offered the Japanese a permanent stay in beautiful Canada, 1-2 Days ago a nuclear leak was detected in Canada. This is done because of the potential Canada and Japan would have if all the Japanese moved to Canada. Their economy would become greater then any other in the world USA would fall behind financially and technologically.

It is Important for Japan to move to Canada for the future purposes of a greater development and all of Japan needs to be evacuated due to the fact that the nuclear disaster will become greater then Chernobyl.

Do not move to Russia Japan because they will use you all to work in the mines and force you to degrade your self.

America would do exactly the same the Black Op system there will suppress the people of beautiful Japan.

Move to Canada and see your people and the Canadians prosper for a greater future.

reply to post by amarenell

You've asked some pretty good questions and as TrueAmerican is undoubtedly a bit snowed under at the moment I hope he won't mind if I offer something by way of answers. This will be a bit long but some explanation is needed.

The Mercalli scale isn't used much these days, and in fact neither is the Richter scale. Most of the larger quakes are reported by USGS and similar agencies on the MMS -- the Moment Magnitude Scale -- and are denoted as "Mw". (The small "w" refers to "mechanical work".) So for example, a quake reported as 5.1 Mw means it's 5.1 on that scale. The annoying thing is that some mainstream media still say "on the Richter scale", even though that scale has not been widely used for some years. It's not a major worry though, because much of the time, the two scales give very similar values.

Without going into lots of boring details, MMS gives the magnitude of a quake based upon the amount of energy it released and also indicates its size. How "big" a quake is -- its size -- refers to the amount of shaking it creates, and how strong it is refers to the energy it releases.

Like the Richter scale, it's also logarithmic. This means that for example, a quake of magnitude 6.0 is ten times bigger in terms of the amount of shaking than a magnitude 5.0. In terms of the energy released, it's 31.622 times stronger. But a magnitude 9.0 is 10,000 times bigger than a mag 5.0 and releases 1,000,000 times more energy. Yes, one million times more.

Oh, here's a great calculator on the USGS website that shows what I mean. Just put in any two numbers for different quake magnitudes and it will show you their difference in size and strength: USGS Earthquake Calculator

Now, when TrueAmerican was referring to giant tsunamis as he did -- and cataclysmic earthquakes -- he was simply presenting the ultimate worst-case scenario. He was not saying that this is what is going to happen, he was only saying what is accepted as theoretically possible. So, it wasn't fear-mongering, just presenting a scenario.

The biggest (and strongest) earthquake ever recorded was a magnitude 9.5. That is to say, it was more than three times bigger than the Japan quake (and over 5.5 times stronger in energy released).

But the experts agree that just because we have not recorded an earthquake bigger or stronger than a 9.5, it doesn't mean that they are not possible. In theory, a magnitude 10.0 quake is possible, but it would require a huge, probably megathrust event. And yes, there are subduction zones in the world where such an event could occur. The western side of South America is one region, off Tahiti is another, and the entire Cascadia Subduction zone off the US Pacific Northwest is another as well -- if the entire zone ruptured in a single event. The same applies to the zone off Japan and on down further along the Phillipine plate.

The fact is, there are several regions in the world that could have a massive megathrust event. Would a magnitude 10.0 quake produce a wave a mile high? It's impossible to know for sure, but the energy released would be more than 30 times greater than that released by a magnitude 9. It's the energy released that allows the waves to be created. More energy can mean a faster and more powerful wave, and when it reaches shallow water, the surge inland would be much greater. How high the wave is when it hits the shore just depends on the terrain, but very high waves are possible.

While such an awful scenario is very unlikely, it's far better to consider it than to make the mistake of thinking that the possible won't happen.

This is one reason why the Japanese are having such serious problems with some of their nuclear reactors. They were designed to withstand quakes in the lower magnitude 8 range, because the designers' thinking was: "We've never had a bigger quake, so we don't need to design for one."

They should have at the very least designed those power stations to survive the biggest megathrust quake ever recorded. To me, that simply makes sense. Japan has that huge subduction zone on its doorstep. They've had megathrust quakes before. Terrible ones. To simply hope that a bigger one won't happen -- well, we all can see what a bad idea that was.

After all, now they not only have all the worries of dealing with damaged nuclear reactors, they also have to think about the fact that they have several others that could be damaged if they get another huge quake. And as the "Tokai" event has not yet happened, they have very good reason to be worried. And that's not fear-mongering either. That's telling the plain and simple truth. Ask the Japanese: they were surprised by this event on Friday because the one they have long expected was for the Tokai region.

And now, they are still waiting for that one.

Best regards,

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by JustMike

 

Yep, of course I am seeing them- And am also seeing this. 3.1 just occurred near the western side of the NA plate on the mainland, another that we can't see if we just watch USGS:

www.jma.go.jp...

Just an aftershock. So they say.

What do you think about this one:

Wednesday March 16 2011, 22:36:16 UTC 82 minutes ago Valparaiso, Chile 5.3 24.7
View details
Does it "fit"?

Magnitude 5.7
Date-Time Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 23:38:19 UTC
Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 08:38:19 AM at epicenter

Location 39.165°N, 142.661°E
Depth 25.3 km (15.7 miles)
Region NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Distances 142 km (88 miles) ESE of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
180 km (111 miles) SE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
184 km (114 miles) ENE of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
464 km (288 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 11.8 km (7.3 miles); depth +/- 0.2 km (0.1 miles)
Parameters NST=410, Nph=423, Dmin=319.5 km, Rmss=0.76 sec, Gp= 83°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=5
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)


Event ID usc00024t0

My intention was to send this link to TA privately for evaluation, but could not do as I have less than 20 posts. Have decided to post it anyway for all to review and consider. I have no commentary or opinion at this time, except to say I grabbed it off Twitter just a little while ago: richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info...

reply to post by TrueAmerican

Hi TA... That one you've noted... It's on the same line. You know it, I know it, the neighbor's cocker spaniel knows it...

I see so many possibilities in that part of the world it's hard to say which is more likely. And of course, we have all the other places that we need to keep an eye on as well. But as we know, these large events have some history of happening in clusters. Doesn't mean they have to be days apart -- though that has happened before -- but we're not talking decades here. Not for Japan. Makes me wonder how fast they can upgrade all their Nuke power station infrastructure and failsafe systems beyond their currently (and obviously) inadequate levels.

Anyhow, it's nearly 1:30 am so I'm outa here. Thank you again for this thread.

Blessings to our friends in Japan and hope it stays quiet there for now.

I light incense to you all...

Mike

Originally posted by kubacs
My intention was to send this link to TA privately for evaluation, but could not do as I have less than 20 posts. Have decided to post it anyway for all to review and consider. I have no commentary or opinion at this time, except to say I grabbed it off Twitter just a little while ago: richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info...

Yeah well, now you see why ATS implements this policy. That's about as bad as Sorcha Faal, maybe worse. Thanks ATS for policies that make sense! Now, if we could just work on that Earthquake-Volcano forum, I wouldn't have to go crawl into my newly created hole. Gets lonely in there- for now.

Originally posted by CaDreamer
i say we help Japan evacuate the entire island chain ... give em a couple of states in america...i love the Japanese folks and welcome them here.

give em north and south Dakota

edit on 13-3-2011 by CaDreamer because: (no reason given)

Give them Detroit... and the rest of Michigan, and in a year or so they will rival any other state for gross revenues.

Canada is more akin to their standard of looking after their own, they wouldn't like US politics.

Speaking of Canada...

Just got in from work and checked Iris for update

www.iris.edu...

Those red circles are all today!
Even one in the Toronto Area




16-MAR-2011 23:38:19 39.17 142.66 5.7 25.3 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:36:16 -32.47 -71.42 5.3 24.7 NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE
16-MAR-2011 22:14:52 38.83 144.20 5.1 26.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:07:53 38.80 144.19 5.0 25.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:03:21 37.61 143.48 5.1 39.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 20:44:42 37.36 143.61 5.3 20.2 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 19:35:02 37.64 141.99 5.0 24.9 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 18:23:08 29.41 141.81 5.0 23.6 SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 18:12:59 37.16 142.13 5.0 35.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 17:55:01 36.28 143.15 4.2 25.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 17:36:55 45.57 -74.55 4.3 18.0 SOUTHERN ONTARIO, CANADA

Until a few days ago i had never looked at the earthquake maps....Is it normal to see so many ALL over?.Does Canada get very many earthquakes?That pic you posted is unreal so many...I see so many small ones in s.California and now a couple 2s in Nevada. on another map..Just curious.

reply to post by JustMike


Just Mike, you are awesome! Thank you for that info. I don't feel quite so uninformed.

What further markers should we watching for here?

Do we watch for just southernly trending, or should we keep an eye on the events on the North American plate as well?

Is it more indiciative of movement to have quakes on the Pacific plate or the Philippine plate?

Sorry for all the questions. I really have read the thread, I promise. I just don't seem to be able to connect the dots like TA and you can.

Wow, 6.5 east of australia:

Thursday March 17 2011, 02:48:02 UTC 25 minutes ago Vanuatu 6.5 26.6

You naughty tectonic plate!

I saw those several Minettes ago.....Gosh i wish i new if some of the earthquakes are normal.I guess i will goggle it and see what i find.

A picture of recent quakes, you can clearly see them delineating the borders of the Pacific Plate:



Thoughts?

reply to post by The Magicians Apprentice


I think you need to provide a link to what you are saying.....Thank you.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Not lookin good this is down by NZ!

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Lesson learned. Research first.

reply to post by TrueAmerican
Hey it could always be worse but I do fell for them. They lost allot in this disaster. Lets hope they recover well in the end. I am glad that the damage wasn't all of japan. That would be worse.