Here Is Proof of Moon Shift!!!! View PDF before it "Disapears".

So the moon is somehow getting more mass. If i'm reading this correctly. And the orbit is now changing so what now. What should i be concerned about. I mean if anything happens it may not be for decades or maybe hundreds of years right?

Originally posted by C21H30O2I
Here is a link to the headline I was referring. Says, it's going to reach a point in its cycle known as 'lunar perigee'.

I like how they said in the article that the "Super Moon" causing weather chaos is a misconception. Well I'd have to say they are wrong once again.

reply to post by weedwhacker


And yes the moon does cause our seasons. It helps to balance the "wobble" of the earth. With out it, the earth would be wobbling so much, that the climate would be so chaotic, as to not harbour life at all.

Not sure about perturbations in the moon's orbit until I read it from other reliable sources -- it should be something that a few Universities should have data on...

... however, a POSSIBLE explanation, barring some large planet close by, MIGHT be a fluctuation in Magnetic field of the earth. The iron core of the moon only represents less than 3% of it's mass -- but of note; the moon's rotation is very nearly in sync with the earth -- such that the side facing the moon changes very slowly.

If the earth's magnetic poles were shifting, that would cause a wobble in the moon as it moved through the tail of the earth's magnetic field -- either a polar wobble, or a sudden "slowing" then speed up of orbit that would tend to elongate the orbit's path.

But it would be a very tiny change, as we'd have to be able to measure a STRONG and obvious shift in Earth's magnetic field to make any significant change.

Here are some links; Here and Here.

There is mention on the Wikipedia page that some craters can also have a magnetic field -- I suppose that it's much like the "frozen" magnetic field lines ensconced in Magma on the Ocean floor of the earth. When the magma seeps out of expanding plate lines, it "freezes" metallic particles with the direction of the earth's magnetic field lines. As the poles "switch" back and forth, the North and South pole orientation is "frozen" into the solid rock -- this is how the phenomena of pole reversals was first discovered.

So, when a meteor hits the moon, and the moon is under the influence of Earth's magnetic field (not sure if this is 100% of the time, as the STRONGEST field from the earth, is "downwind" of the solar wind), a large strike will heat the rock and freeze metals along these field lines.

It would require MASSIVE amounts of "frozen" metals for that to effect the "rotation" of the moon -- but if there were, then the moon's "stabilization" with the earth, might be influenced by fluctuations in earth's magnetic field.

>> But again, I would think this would require a MASSIVE change.

>> ANOTHER influence, might be that the earth "moved" about 4" during the "earth shift" in Japan -- it's not enough to call it an earth quake -- the main island of Japan moved 8 feet! However, this "measurement" of the moon's fluctuation happened BEFORE the earthquake.

If another planet were influencing the moon -- it would ALSO be influencing the earth. The EARTH would also have it's orbit fluctuate -- but being 8 times the mass of the moon, that shift would be 1/8th weaker on the earth and ALSO, harder to measure. Finding that earth was "wobbling" a few meters from the sun would be a bit trickier than seeing a wobble of a few Centimeters with lasers bouncing off reflective targets on the moon.


>> Another planet would ALSO be perturbing the orbits of Mars and Venus -- though that would be harder to measure than a fluctuation on the moon's orbit.


>> Just trying to show options and keep the discussion "real." I have NOT been reading much on the theories about a rogue planet so I don't have anything to add on how likely this is.

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The moon is not gaining more mass, its orbit is becoming more egg shaped, or elongated and this remains puzzling as none of the present or theoretical equations can account for what the moon is actually doing. In otherwords solve for "x" is not attainable. And yes Nibiru does not fit into the equations at all.

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The moon is not gaining more mass, its orbit is becoming more egg shaped, or elongated and this remains puzzling as none of the present or theoretical equations can account for what the moon is actually doing. In otherwords solve for "x" is not attainable. And yes Nibiru does not fit into the equations at all.

Originally posted by kid_cudi

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by HeresHowItGoes

 

There is NO SUCH THING as the "dark side of the Moon" (except as atitle for a very nice Pink Floyd album from many decades ago....

THAT is it!!!

(ALL sides of the Moon receive equal amountsof Sunshine....just like the Earth does. Sheesh!!)

What makes you so sure there's no dark side of the moon? Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Where are your sources?

Do some research on the moon and understand "phase locked" as we turn in our day, so does the moon, phaselocked means that we see the same side of the moon everynight because it take the moon 24hrs respectively to do its day. if you were living on the moon, you too would see the same place on earth every day.

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please could you tell me are you refering to the supermoon? it happens every 20 years or so. my source is suite101.com but no experts can agree if this has any effect on the earth or not.

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sorry i forgot to say when you go to suite101.com type in supermoon in the search bar thanks.

Originally posted by Trublbrwing
This needs to be made public, it offers absolute proof that they know all about the Moon "anomoly" and don't have a clue what is causing it. I would imagine the animal deaths are linked and they don't understand that either.
The man has a PHD in quantum physics, we're not talking VonDrunken here, more sources are at the end of the PDF if you want to look deeper.
Lorenzo Lorio knows.
NASA knows.
Harvard knows.
Cornell knows.
Stanford knows.
Now YOU know.
arxiv.org...

lots of formulas and quotes from supposed experts with foreign names = must be factual

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dont believe everything you read even on here do your own research.

This article seems to indicate that the moon has been shrinking over the past billion years (due to the cooling of it's core).
Maybe these subtle changes could have something to do with the changes in orbit ?

www.telegraph.co.uk...

The original article states:

A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning
38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity e of the lunar orbit
amounting to ˙emeas = (9 ± 3) × 10^−12 yr^−1

In other words, the amount that the moons orbit is elliptical, which ranges from 0 (circle) to 1 (parabola), is increasing by about 0.00000000001 per year. The current eccentricity is 0.054900489 (note that's two less significant digits, so it would take 100 years for the measured eccentricity to change at that resolution).

Basically it's a tiny tiny increase, almost too small to measure (and debatable if they have even measured it at all, as the eccentricity varies naturally by the influence of the planets).

I dont know it you mean tom van flanderen with von drunken. If you are that's just really silly.

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It is probably this one, that is causing the problem with the Moon.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

A large object in Oort cloud.

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I'm no PHD, but I have a thought. How about planetary alignment gravitational pull? Isn't the earth and other planets in the solar system supposed to be aligning with the center of the Universe next year? We're on the upswing at this juncture and I'm thinking that it could possibly be an explanation. They are reporting that the axis of the Earth shifted with this latest earthquake in Japan. Earth hasn't shifted in 750,000. We're overdue. All these things could account in part for the moon orbital change. Any thoughts?

reply to post by iamahumandoing
Okay, let's clarify. They are saying that a body of the type Planet X is NOT a reason, nor would any influences from any astro bodies in the Kuiper belt (like comets or asteroids). They are saying they are ruling those out. They are wondering if "an accretion of earth's mass with dark matter," might be a cause. That means the earth's mass may be altering because of a becoming one with dark matter. OOOHHH. Very interesting. A change in earth's mass would be an explanation for the moon's orbit becoming more elliptical (like an oval rather than a circle). That makes sense, if earth's mass alters, its' ability to hold the moon in a circular orbit would be affected. Some basic high school geometry and physics classes are the only things necessary here - not a PhD. Logic is a simple and beautiful tool of the mind.

Originally posted by Sanjur0
I dont know it you mean tom van flanderen with von drunken. If you are that's just really silly.

Nope.
I'm talking about this one............
www.youtube.com...
Now, THAT'S really silly.

Do some research on the moon and understand "phase locked" as we turn in our day, so does the moon, phaselocked means that we see the same side of the moon everynight because it take the moon 24hrs respectively to do its day. if you were living on the moon, you too would see the same place on earth every day.

If that were true, then half of Earth would never see the Moon, ever :-)

It's a little more complex than what you are calling 'phased locked'.
That term is for waveforms, not orbiting bodies.

Please don't mention that term in vain.
I had to study that stuff at college once, and it makes me feel all giddy to this day.

Phase locked loop

I read that on March 19th we are going to have a lunar perigee...which means that the moon is coming closest to the earth that it has been in 18 years and it's gonna be full. They say it won't have any more effect on the tides, earthquakes, weather or volcanic activity that it usually does, but I really can't see how it wouldn't...But it's supposed to be HUGE as it rises...I'll have my telescope out and ready...Either that or running from a giant wave, or volcano or something as the earth is splitting in half!!!