Here Is Proof of Moon Shift!!!! View PDF before it "Disapears".

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by HeresHowItGoes

 

There is NO SUCH THING as the "dark side of the Moon" (except as atitle for a very nice Pink Floyd album from many decades ago....

THAT is it!!!

(ALL sides of the Moon receive equal amountsof Sunshine....just like the Earth does. Sheesh!!)

What makes you so sure there's no dark side of the moon? Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Where are your sources?

Yeah, I think, weird things are a foot! S&F I read, somewhere that on 3/19/11 the moon, will be really close to the planet, "world will see largest moon in two decades". I think that was the headline if not mistaking. thx for sharing.

I should think that the small eccentricities being recorded for the moon, are in fact not eccentricities at all, but are gradual and accumulated effects over time...that is cosmic time. It will not be down to one cause, but a series of affective variables impacting upon the relationship between the earth and moon.

Solar output is variable, and thus the solar wind is variable in its strength and intensity. The moon has been collecting cometary material for billions of years, so it's mass will be unevenly spread. These are just a couple of potential accumulative causes for the moon's eccentricity.

One thing for concern, is the amount of large earthquakes occurring on the earth in a short period of time. Whether or not these have a lunar cause or contribution to their triggers is debatable. Something is providing extra energy into the tectonic motions in order for these earthquakes to trigger. I am not knowing of historical precedents occurring for similar phases of large earthquakes happening in short periods of time in the past.

Here is a link to the headline I was referring. Says, it's going to reach a point in its cycle known as 'lunar perigee'.

reply to post by Le Colonel


Actualy Nibiru,nemisis,tyche IS mentioned:"a trans-Plutonian massive body of planetary size located in
the remote peripheries/regions of the solar system: Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche"So in other words Planet X/Nirbiru,tyche" a Transplutonian meaning "an inhabitant of the planet Pluto", "of planetary size",So nirbiru is located in the regions of Pluto!i could be wrong but this is what is says.

Get out your telescopes people and start snapping pictures and posting them!

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by CLPrime

 

Thanks for doing the math. Your posts were as helpful as many of the others were unhelpful.

One thing I'm wondering is if the increase in accuracy of the measuring instruments over the years is relevant? Surely over that period of time the accuracy of measurements has improved?

edit on 3/13/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)

Even back in the '70s, laser ranging was accurate enough to allow for measurements compatible with today's. And certainly within the fraction of a metre involved... that may not seem like much, but, to a laser, it's quite the distance. In fact, they quantified just how accurate their ranging data was, by the error given (+/-3), meaning the number they found (9) is beyond their measurements' observational error. For the data to be attributed to an error in accuracy, their result would either had to have been, at most, 3 (instead of 9), or the error would had to have been, at least, +/-9. Obviously, their results are beyond their data's error margin.

Actualy Nibiru,nemisis,tyche IS mentioned:"a trans-Plutonian massive body of planetary size located in the remote peripheries/regions of the solar system: Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche"So in other words Planet X/Nirbiru,tyche" a Transplutonian meaning "an inhabitant of the planet Pluto", "of planetary size",So nirbiru is located in the regions of Pluto!i could be wrong but this is what is says.

reply to post by Tahnya86


Trans-Plutonian means beyond pluto but not nessicarly behind it. It could be in an entirely different part of the sky.


Oh yeah, It also doesn't mean an inhabitant. It just means beyond Pluto or having a larger orbit than Pluto.

reply to post by IndieA


Yes but thank you for the acknowledgment of my findings within the documentation, finnaly there is a written piece of confirmation that planet X is out there and its not to far away. fingers crossed.

Just as a little backup to what I mentioned multiple pages back. I thought perhaps the earths mass was growing due to thousands of years worth of meteorites, which all add up.
Wasn't until I checked roughly how much they weigh. We're looking at around 37,000-78,000 tonnes of the bloody stuff... EVERY YEAR! Over the span of hundreds of millions of years, this would have quite a impact on gravity effects upon the moon.
Meteorite Accumulation

I hope this help. The existence of Planet Tyche (Planet X) has been scientifically predicted a few years ago by several outstanding astro-physicists. However, this theory has been completely dismissed as erroneous by NASA.
Lorenzo Iorio’s work is a very serious scientific study in which it is hypothesized that the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon is due to the existence of the (not yet officially discovered) Planet Tycho.

for what it is worth,
all functional artificial satellites have automatic orbit corrections.
current published gravitational formulas, are incomplete , to incorrect,
leading to false calculations, assumptions.
If the measurement indicate movement, this with indicate changes in the earth orbit.
what would be show up as earthquakes and magma movements in the penta joules .
these little changes, will possible have an effect, by an orbit + , like a snowball, running down the mountain,
becoming an avalanche. All this could mean, a trickle down, destiny change from the sun, affecting planetary objects. Overall a fractional change , even if it is cosmic , human life is to short , to notice the effects,
unless it has a dimensional effect in a transition zone.
for what it's worth, it be nice to get the correct gravitational formula, but that would also reveal many other incorrect teachings. what is unfortunate, since the correct gravitational formula, is also key, for simple energy management , control, or generation.
Many might not know, that the gravitational center, the northpol, the magnetic fields, earth vibrations, down to time itself, what is tight in, is fluctuating . It just happens with multiple changes, the rolercoaster seam to be more ruff. the amplitudes in relations, seam to get out of bound.
just some rambling ,....

In a nutshell...

I don't know what is causing the moons orbit to become more eliptical but the fact that it is could have some serious effects on the earth. The moon is responsible for the tides because of its gravitational influence on the ocean. The tides themselves vary on a regular cycle. An ebb tide (the least tide) occurs when the low tide aligns with the moons apogee or farthest point from earth in its orbit. A neap tide (highest tide) occurs when the moon is at perigee or the closest point in its orbit to the earth.

A lesser known fact is that tidal forces also affect the earths crust and tectonic plates.

If the moons orbit is becoming more eliptical that means that the apogee will be farther out but orbital mechanics demand a balance so the perigee will be closer to the earth. Having the moons orbital eccentricity increase will also increase the neap tide and decrease the ebb tide. The more important part is the increase in the tidal forces at neap tide time. This could cause an increase in earthquake activity and volcanic activity as well.

But I think it will take a reasonably large increase in eccentricity to have much effect at all. I doubt that the small amount so far observed is enough to worry about. The real danger is if something causing the increase is also having an increased influence on the moons orbit and the eccentricity accelerates drastically over a short time.

It all hinges on what is actually causing the eccentricity increase and if that cause itself is on the increase too.

Is this really that important? I mean, with the moon changing its position less than a foot in almost 40 years, there are more important things to think about in our lifetime and the next several, which this won't have an effect on.

I do agree though that it's important to find out what exactly is causing this. If it is something thats causing the issue to accelerate as it becomes more affected then there might be something to talk about.

Not trying to be a "wise-guy", if anyone knows a real answer please educate me, but how is an unknown planet that varies at distances hundreds of times greater from ours to the sun supposed to have an effect on the moon.. i mean if the sun can not pull the moon away from the Earth how is this planet supposed too when its fractions of the size and at a much, much greater distance than the sun... If anything I would say the Sun and larger, closer gas giants are having a permanent effect on it and the more time that goes by the process accelerates. I read somewhere that the moon will never fully leave Earths pull anyways, and then when it gets to a certain distance it will either stabilize or start pulling back to Earth slowly.. but by this time the Sun will have swallowed the inner solar system so the point is moot

Or maybe its "dark energy"??

I've also read a theory that says one side of Earth is not equal to its other half, so when the moon is orbiting one half has a bigger impact on the pull than the other. This could be causing the odd orbit.

reply to post by Trublbrwing


Thank you for the pdf link, now I hope I can comprehend what is being said.

What about the Earth pole shift...

I can not set my mind to just one theory at this point. However, I can agree with a lot of members on this one that it is the most fitting explanation to some of my questions to date. The best thing is that I have yet to see any "back peddling" once confronted. Thanks for the link and the heads up!

Originally posted by Liberterius
Before anybody sells their house and car divorces their wife and moves to Alaska I have read the paper and I am familiar with the math but not all the models. The amount of perturbation they are speaking of in the eccentricity is on the scale of pico meters over decades, the only reason physicist even need to re-evaluate their models now is because of the great leaps and advances in technology and measuring equipment. This is how science works, that's why we evolved from Newtonian mechanics, to Relativity and now something even more accurate. The "anomaly" has always existed will always exist and is pointed out as being periodic within the models, which means relax and take your meds. I suggest before you freak out on a technical paper you at least be versed in the subject.

If you don't understand English, or my above post, or are just thick and believe in your own mind you know better than every physicist on this planet, then perhaps you truly should take your meds.