Palestinian Terror. Recent murder in Itamar of a family of 5

reply to post by dontreally


Ok clearly you are brainwashed, so I can't help you. You maybe need to consult a doctor or something.

Thanks for the history lesson. We've heard it all before on ATS, it doesn't change anything.

Answer me one thing, if Muslims/Arabs are so bad as you say then how is it Jewish baby's are not having their head's cut off all round the world in places where Jews and Muslims live in harmony ?

Seriously the sooner you get round to admitting the truth of the matter the sooner peace will descend on the area. It's entirely up to you.

reply to post by gem_man


But that's exactly the point, isn't it? Every wrong move the IDF or Israel do gets quickly condemned by the international community and the Arab nations, meanwhile when terror hits the Israelis nobody seems to care- That's hypocrisy.

And you're right, this might not be a Palestinian. An Israeli might have jumped the fence at night, walked into a house and killed everyone in it.

Next time you see some website claiming that Israeli snipers shoot down children, why don't you stop for a second and try to apply the same critical thinking you do here.

That'll be the day...

(Just to be clear, I completely agree with you skepticism, I just don't see you apply it when it comes to anti Israeli propaganda)

I found this and has not shown up in mainstream Israeli newspapers yet:

www.wnd.com...

The description is pretty graphic so don't read if you are sensitive

reply to post by dontreally


www.palestine-info.co.uk... 59uFMWf7mKk6zwjq17DqsuqHkQN44oOT39XW5RK8L6WpZqG58%3d

So, as it turns out it was NOT a Palestinian but an Asian worker that was stiffed on a payment.

reply to post by gem_man


Thats bullcrap.....

Let me post that link again:

www.wnd.com...

NOW....

go watch this: viewer descretion strongly advised

www.myisrael.org.il...

reply to post by bluemirage5


It certainly makes it more real to see pictures of the people involved. What a shame, they looked like a very nice family.

I'm left wondering why any sane person would want to raise their family in an area surrounded by hate and violence.

For me it's another case of peaceful Jews being betrayed and used by their crazy Zionist plotters. Doubt it will be the last though.

When will it end ?

Originally posted by dontreally
What reason? Because Jews are liars? Is this why? You can trust anything except when it comes from a Jew?

This appears to be your thinking here.

I don't think Bigyin said anything of the sort. In fact it's pretty evident you're making it up, because you've got nothing left but to screech "ANTISEMITISM!"

Of course, you are not informing Bigyin that you are a goyim who pretends to be a Jew on the internet. Not just any goy, but one who is spectacularly bad at the subject of Judaism and Jewish history. I know I'm not hte only one who's taken you to town for spreading falsehoods.

While you're screeching antisemitisim, also remember that you - again, a non-Jew - spent a good while proclaiming who was and was not "really" Jewish, as if you had some YHWH-granted authoritative right to make such proclamations

Why do you do this? I dunno. I think it's because you just really hate Arabs, and think pretending to be Jewish gives you some sort of cover story.

So while Bigyin isn't saying he doesn't trust Jews, I would definitely back him up if he were to say he distrusts you.

Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by gem_man

 

But that's exactly the point, isn't it? Every wrong move the IDF or Israel do gets quickly condemned by the international community and the Arab nations, meanwhile when terror hits the Israelis nobody seems to care- That's hypocrisy.

Really? Who, exactly, is not caring here? In this case, we've got everyone on JUST this one thread agreeing that these murders are despicable and indefensible. We have six or seven different sources carrying the story, that run the gamut of political leanings. Heads of state have spoken and thumped their fist about the murder of these five people - many the heads of states that have murder rates in the hundreds per day (*coughGOUSAcough*)

What, exactly, do you regard as "caring enough?" Expressing concern, dismay, disgust, and sympathy over these murders from a broad array of sources and ideologues doesn't seem to do the trick. it doesn't count. So what does?

Apparently - by the context you present - it's not "caring enough" unless we're willing to turn a blind eye to the criminal acts, mass reprisals, and human rights violations of Israel. It's all or nothing. Either we're absolutely for everything Israel does, or we're somehow guilty of not caring when Israelis are murdered.

And you're right, this might not be a Palestinian. An Israeli might have jumped the fence at night, walked into a house and killed everyone in it.

That'll be the day...

Why jump the fence if you're already inside it? Are Israel's colonists immune to the disputes that wrack every other community on earth? Nobody there ever has gambling debts? Stops taking lithium? Just idyllic bliss except for those dirty #ing arabushim cockroaches? It should be considered, is all. But it seems that the idea is not even being glanced at by the authorities; rather this situation is being used to strip further rights from an entire community.

You accuse us of not caring enough, well, to the people of this colony, it's a political opportunity, not a tragedy, and that's exactly how they're playing it.

(Just to be clear, I completely agree with you skepticism, I just don't see you apply it when it comes to anti Israeli propaganda)

edit on 15-3-2011 by Eliad because: (no reason given)

Never seen you be especially skeptical if it gives you a reason to cheer for dead Palestinians, Eliad.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox

Really? Who, exactly, is not caring here?

Have yet to hear a condemnation from any of the Arab nations, from European nations like Sweden, from South America, etc.. The same nations who are quick to condemn every single move the Israeli government does...

I've only heard of an American condemnation so far..

I'm not saying the people don't care, even some of my most avid anti Israeli Arab friends are outraged by this...

Why jump the fence if you're already inside it?

lol I love how you took the liberty or editing the post so that it would seem like I'm not seriously suggesting it could have been Israelis..

Why jump the fence? Because the fence has been jumped, and the fence alarm went off..

Just idyllic bliss except for those dirty #ing arabushim cockroaches?

Do you realize I said the exact opposite of what you're saying? Do you understand how you're coming out right now?

But it seems that the idea is not even being glanced at by the authorities

How do you know? How do you even know what evidence they have? What tracks the trackers found at the point where the fence had been touched? Where they led? How the hell do you know? Do you have an inside source? Do you read minds? How?

rather this situation is being used to strip further rights from an entire community.

In what way exactly?

It's being used as political leverage, that's for sure, to build more houses, but other than that, what rights have been stripped from what community?

it's a political opportunity, not a tragedy, and that's exactly how they're playing it

As usual, political opportunities only matter to the politicians in that group, and I agree, it definitely is.

Never seen you be especially skeptical if it gives you a reason to cheer for dead Palestinians, Eliad.

You haven't seen that many posts of mine either..

Facebook to issue terror alerts
The new alert system will go from:
ROFL (extremely low alert) to
LOL (low alert) to
OMG (moderate alert) to
ZOMG (high alert) to
OMFG (highest alert)
There. I just saved the Federal Government $50 million in consulting fees

Well, here's something called " Hamas Mickey Mouse Teaches Terror to Kids " which i think everyone will find interesting. feel free to create a topic with this Youtube clip as i only have a few posts as of yet.
here you will see a bootlegged Micky Mouse teaching little arabian children how to hate Israel and not surrender their hate.

one of the childrens songs include ' AK-47 ' in this Micky Mouse televised childrens program of hate. A MUST SEE.

i believe this video is relevent because of the message directed to the offspring which can become a ' reflex ' to hate without questioning and Acts of murder without cause.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by steven704


So it's not really much different than the way Israeli Jewish children are brought up, or taught in state schools to hate everyone, because the whole world hates Jews!
See, you can'r really criticise just one side (who really are oppressed and have everything stolen from them) and not take a long hard look at the other side and their attitudes as well.

I always find it funny how so many people sit on boards like this declaring how they would die fighting to defend their family, lands, country, yet will happily cheer on Israel and criticise the Palestinians for fighting back against occupation, land theft and downright murder.

As for this nasty little murder - yes, it is murder, plain and simple, not terrorism - they are probably going to eventually arrest some poor bugger who is completely innocent (or better yet shoot him while trying to escape) just to blame the Palestinians. They don't seem to be looking very hard for the Asian guy who got stiffed to the tune of thousands of shekkels by the murdered settler. Of course, he doesn't fit the bill of crazy Islamic terrorist to wave at everyone!

reply to post by Britguy


Excuse me?

Murder IS terrorism; and anyone who thinks otherwise is a marble in a tin can!

Britguy:

" So it's not really much different than the way Israeli Jewish children are brought up, or taught in state schools to hate everyone, because the whole world hates Jews! "

are israeli children in fact taught to ' hate everyone '?

seems your argument is led by your personal perspective when in fact hamas Mickey Mouse actually exists. sadly.

reply to post by dontreally


Palestinian terrorist attack? Last I heard the Idf arrested 300+ palestinians , interrogated them and let most of them go. Then they arrested 100+ women for interrogation and still have no Palestinian suspect. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe an Asian or, God forbid, a Jew committed this horrible crime? Quite racist of you to automatically assume an Arab did this. Your anti- semitisn blantantly shows. (Arabs are semites)

reply to post by gem_man



Oh,,,first it was a Thai worker, now he is Jewish. Why? Because the Palestinians says so, and you are in a hurry as usual to adopt their version.
Please remind us why the trail of blood and foot prints were leading to the Palestinian Village?

reply to post by gem_man


I think you'll find the DNA off even a hair strand of an Asian differs somewhat to a "palestinian" and since the DNA of an Ashkenazi differs to both an Asian and "palestinian"....

yeap....blood stains going towards a "palestinian" village.......

doubt thats the place an Asian would dare venture in to, let alone an Askenazi Jew.

My bet is, and evidence at the crime scene says the wife DID in fact fight for her life, it's highly likely she has DNA of her perpetrator under her finger nails.

reply to post by gravitational


Yep, they also arrested some Thai workers. Footprints leading toward a Palestinian village? Maybe for ten or fifteen steps which could have easily been done by anyone. Perhaps it was a Palestinian BUT perhaps not. Footprints leading in a direction are circumstantial, not hard evidence. The investigators have reached A dead end with the villagers so the next step may be to test the DNA of the settlers. Point is, you assume it was an Arab and without hard evidence that is called RACISM.

reply to post by Eliad


C'mon Eliad, horrible murders are committed every day. One cannot expect governments to condemn every murder. Condemnation is assumed in civilized countries. Netantanyu has NEVER condemned a murder that has occured anywhere in the world outside of Israel nor would he be expected to.

Of course it was an Arab - this is exactly what they dream of doing to the entire Israeli population the first opportunity they get - as mandated by Islam!

Meanwhile they are working their way towards that goal by the only means at their disposal - systematically de-legitimising them in the eyes of the international community by a campaign of 'moral inversion' propaganda Pallywood special effects, marxist media and UN collaboration.