Palestinian Terror. Recent murder in Itamar of a family of 5

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reply to post by Nammu


Couldn't have put it better myself.

Let's cut the crap, Israelis, Palestinians, we're all the same, we're all people, all motivated by the same things.

This goes both ways.

Read and smell the hypocracy .... it's sickening ..

Netan yahoo demands

reply to post by bigyin


What's hypocritical about demanding that the world condemns these crimes?

reply to post by dontreally


"Not Surprising, there are no threads keeping Tabs on Palestinian terrorist attacs against Israelis."

Really? Palestinian 'kills five Israelis' in West Bank

Might want to use the Search function.

Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by bigyin

 

What's hypocritical about demanding that the world condemns these crimes?

This is what the putz said

There is no justification and there can be neither excuse nor forgiveness for the murder of children

Coming from somebody who sanctioned the murder of 1500 people including children in Gaza during operation Cast lead, plus the ongoing blockade of Gaza to the detriment of civilians including children, plus the aquital of IDF officers who shoot children multiple times.

This guy is worse than Gaddafi imo

reply to post by dontreally


Just a minute. How do you know it was Palestinians that committed this horrible crime. Israel says the Al Aqaska Brigade has claimed responsibility for this crime. The Brigade themselves deny any responsibility. So it is only Israels say so. Could have just as easily been an Israeli. Funny how the CCTV cameras always fail when somethin like this happens. Ity very well may have been a deranged Palestinian but nothing is as yet proven.

reply to post by Eliad


If the world feels obligated to condemn every murder that takes place in the world they will be doing little else. Or is it that you feel ONLY deaths of Israelis should be condemned? Shall we also ask the world to condemn deaths perpertrated by the IDF? That will keep the world busy!

reply to post by bigyin


you are right! Netanyahu demands indeed. Here is how silly that sounds. Supposing a family in say Iowa is brutally murdered. Now Obama holds a press conference demanding the world condemn the murders. I think the world will be questioning his sanity. Last week some school kids were killed in Russia. Why doesn't Putin go on TV demanding the world condemn the murders? Because HE is not stupid!

reply to post by dontreally


Dude, why do you keep marrying the word "terrorists" to PA, Fateh and Hamas only? Don't you guys kill the hell out of them and their children as well? Doesn't that label you terrorists too? Doesn't that make you obviously biased? I watch the news and read as well. Please don't think we are ignorant. We know the history between you two, well I do.

Also, weren't you guys bombing Gaza the past few days with planes? I don't see you posting anything about that. What goes around comes around then?

And for your info, I do not condone violence from both sides, even though I would've preferred you guys lawfully migrated to Palestine without forceful invasion/takeover in pre 1948.

reply to post by gem_man


Well for one, the babys head was decapitated. They were meaning to use it as some sick symbol. Fortunately the mother came in with a gun (not knowing how to use it) and upset their ability to get away smoothly. They than killed the mother and ran off. They couldnt finish the complete decapitation of the 3 month old baby.

The 4 year old was also stabbed in the heart.

And lastly, you repugnant ignoramus, the Palestine Media incites their people into doing these horrible things. This shouldnt happen, but when Jews are depicted as pigs and monkeys and deserving of death (as the PA CONSTANTLY says in the Newspapers and TV programs) than its completely understandable. PA produces terrorists.

To even try to depoliticize this into some 'random' occurrence, as if it had nothing to do with terrorism, is SICKENING.

Additionally, It happened in the highly politicized westbank (against settlers). So get a #ING clue. This isnt Iowa.

reply to post by dontreally


Since everyone is dead you seem to know a lot about what went on ..... amazing powers you have there dude. Wasted here.

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by gem_man

 

but when Jews are depicted as pigs and monkeys and deserving of death (as the PA CONSTANTLY says in the Newspapers and TV programs)

edit on 15-3-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

Can you use some of your amazing powers and tell us why they might do this ?

reply to post by bigyin


What the # is wrong with you?

When you read details about a murder in a newspaper, do you deny it? Why would you even question it? Where else are you going to get information about it? You take it for what it is and you accept it as fact, otherwise you'll have reason to be cynical about EVERYTHING, which is absolutely insane.

www.jpost.com...

reply to post by bigyin


Why would they committ terror attacks?!

What the hell kind of question is that!!!?

Why did Palestinian terrorists kill Israeli Olymipians at munich. Why are some people completely Evil? and liars?!

If your question is about PA propaganda, all you need to do is go to PALwatch.com or MEMRI.org and see for yourself. Its taken straight from Palestinian newspapers, TV programs (all in Arabic), and religious rallies. On Film, and there for anyone to see and establish for themselves.

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by bigyin

 

What the # is wrong with you?

When you read details about a murder in a newspaper, do you deny it? Why would you even question it? Where else are you going to get information about it? You take it for what it is and you accept it as fact, otherwise you'll have reason to be cynical about EVERYTHING, which is absolutely insane.

www.jpost.com...

So you believe everything you read in a newspaper without question ?



Now we understand where your coming from.

What are you doing on a conspiracy site ?

reply to post by bigyin


No, i was speaking strictly about reports of murders and the details.

They arent going to post pictures of it, out of respect to the deceased.

So why deny that the baby was decapitated, even despite this being reported?

What reason? Because Jews are liars? Is this why? You can trust anything except when it comes from a Jew?

This appears to be your thinking here. There is no justification to deny the details of the murders. They happened in the highly politicized west bank, the murders were typical of terrorist killings, and the al aqsa brigades initially admitted to it.

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by bigyin

 

Why would they committ terror attacks?!

What the hell kind of question is that!!!?

Why did Palestinian terrorists kill Israeli Olymipians at munich. Why are some people completely Evil? and liars?!

If your question is about PA propaganda, all you need to do is go to PALwatch.com or MEMRI.org and see for yourself. Its taken straight from Palestinian newspapers, TV programs (all in Arabic), and religious rallies. On Film, and there for anyone to see and establish for themselves.

You know for somebody who takes details in a newspaper very seriously you don't read posts very well.

I asked why in your opinion do Palestinians depict Jews as pigs and monkeys and deserving of death ?

Can you think of any reasons why that might be the case ?

reply to post by dontreally


See, about the "jews are liars" thing, don't think it's true. The problem here is, no one is going to believe "the boy who cried wolf", who in this case is, controlled media. Also, Netenyahu or whatever Israeli politician surely cannot ask the people of the world to look at one case and ignore the other, "Hey world, please sympathize with us and condemn these Palestinian terrorists who've done this terrible act. And pssstt, please ignore what we have done days before, wink wink".

Sorry dude, but that's not fair one bit. Netenyahu/Israeli politicians never apologize or feel sorry for killing harmless civilians, specially kids, women, and the old. They just come up with whatever excuse. For example, "Hey, they were shooting from their bedroom, it ain't my fault!". Why not play fair? If Israel boasts so much about how technologically advanced their weapons are, and how amazing their IDF or whatever special forces they got are, then why can't you simply sneak in and catch 'em all? With your intelligence and spies you should know where they live and hide, true? Why starve and punish the millions of unarmed harmful civilians every time? Get your fully sick out of this world special forces and smoke 'em out then! And leave the innocent alone.

Maybe if Israel hasn't committed so many massacres, we would've believed you.

Tbh with you, like someone else here said, you are in the totally wrong place if your sources are from the disinfo wagon.

reply to post by bigyin


Why did Hitler depict Jews as such similar things?

Are you doubting Hitler did what he did?

For one, the Qur'an depicts Jews as Monkeys and pigs in Sura 2:65.. So the Muslim "word of G-d", which is the Qur'an, says Jews are like apes.

Apes are subhuman. They clearly resemble humans in a very primitive form, but they are despicable, and stupid, and a symbol for human stupidity and ignobility.

This is basically why the Jews was so dehumanized while living under Islamic authority. The Dhimmi, as anyone who has read up on this, was accorded no rights. Of course,he, the christian and Jew, but particularly the Jew, was subject to all forms of exploitation. If a muslim came against them with a case, they had no possibility of defence. The Qur'an strictly forbids the plea of a Kafir (unbeliever).

Even before Israel was founded, there was no less then 10 separate massacres of jewish communities waged by Muslim clerics. In Safed in 1934, one cleric simply screamed "I have heard the Jews will be plundered". A Week later, the whole community was plundered. Those who stayed were killed, and everyone else had their property stolen.

Read up on the Hebron Massacre, Safed massacre(s), Arab revolts etc. The arabs are not the nicest bunch, especially when their Qur'an shows such disdain for non believers.

Why did these events occur? Hate. Hate, Material gain, Sexual outlet (Muslim men tend to rape the woman they plunder, which the Qur'an also supports) and political advantage.

There are many reasons why the PA thought this brutal atrocity would be advantageous. For one, it frightens the Settlers in the west bank. If you know a single thing about what the settlers and west bank mean, you will understand how big an issue this is. Essentially, to give this some historical context, the "west bank", which sounds incrediby impersonal, is the name given for the biblical regions of Judea and Samaria. Judea as in the center of Jewish settlement during their Kingdoms (1st temple, 1000 BCE - 550 BCE, 2nd Temple 470 BCE - 70 CE, and up until the 3rd century CE. After this time the Jewish population of the land dwindled due to Roman, Byzantine, Islamic, Mongol etc attacks. In 1947, 200 synagogues in East Jerusalem - which is apart of the westbank - were demolished by the occupying power Jordan. In other words, a huge chuck of the very rich Jewish history of Old Jerusalem, which had 200 synagogues (serving a population of 50,000 +) were destroyed. No outcry from the international community. Many of these synagogues were historical relics of the Middle Ages and Ancient times (a few were from Roman times). If this were instead Jews demolishing 1300 year old mosques, there would have been a massive outcry in the Arab and Western world. So, this would be like Muslims wanting to return to Mecca and Medina after Jews ousted them from it. The Jews settling these areas are religious, and not militant. They dont even have guns. They had hoes, and farm tools. Their simply farmers, and there to develop the land. It is this sort of people that the terrorists murdered in Itamar.

Whats really disturbing it your lack of humanity. 5 religious, peace loving people were brutally murdered in their sleep. Because of where it happened, all notion of it being a 'random' politically irrelevant attack is dismissed. That isnt possible. 2nd, the way these people were killed indicates that it was a political attack. The 11 year old was stabbed in his heart. The 4 year old had his throat slit and the 3 month old had his throat slit all around, with only the bone of the neck holding it in place. They intended to decapitate the child, which as we know is something Muslim terrorists have a penchant for. Why doesnt this bother you. Why are you so insistent on denying details and skewing the picture instead of according respect and sympathy for those killed. To not do so, is to show you really dont care. You push that issue completely out of your mind, or atleast to the peripheral, and make another non-existant issue about why to trust details about murders read in the newspapers, or to say Israel has now tasted its own medicine. Find me a story of a little baby getting its throat cut in the PA. It doesnt happen.

Im not dismissing that a psycho did this. Clearly, someone has to be seriously mentally ill to kill a child. The issue isnt simply who, but WHY. Why does this happen so often to Israelis? Why? The issue being attacked right now in Israel is the INCITEMENT in PA media towards these sort of acts against Jewish civilians. Its this that is the issue, and it is this which is completely and utterly ignored in Western Media. This is why the Al Aqsa Brigades can do this with impunity. They know that no one cares and no one will tell the whole truth. One group will be vilified, yet the deeper issue of why this culture is allowed to thrive in palestine is ignored, and left to grow. In Newspapers, News programs, Kids Children shows, Talk shows, and at mosques. As long as this attitude is fostered, by giving money to the PA (which the US and EU do to a great deal) and ignoring what they do with it, this will continue to happen.