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Originally posted by curious7
I'd like to believe stuff like the things posted on ATS and believe I have an open mind (a lot more open than a lot of pro debunkers on here anyway) but I'd still like to see at least a little shred of proof just to make sure I'm not imagining anything and going crazy.
Originally posted by Essan
reply to post by curious7
HAARP is real. It's just not capable of creating earthquakes in the same way my pencil sharper is not capable of creating time vortexs.
Originally posted by jameshawkings
Anyone who knows how easy it is to an trigger avalanche (e.g. skiing) will also be able to understand how easy it is to trigger an earthquake.
Originally posted by jameshawkings
Essan, feel free to debunk Nickola Tesler all you wish, but I know which one of the two of you I'll put my faith in
Originally posted by jameshawkings
Originally posted by curious7
reply to post by Essan
Ahh see I know HAARP exists but not sure on the whole "it creates earthquakes to kill us off" deal.
It's very difficult for the general public to understand the motives of the people at the top of the system, just like it's hard for a goldfish to understand human behaviour.
Let's say that the Globalist Bankers wanted Japan to go ahead with part of their agenda, for example Swine Flu Vaccines for sterilization, and the Japanese said no, an Earthquake would be a weapon to attack them with which the public would accept, as the public would think it a perfectly normal and natural occurance. That's just an example of how it could be used, but the overall principle is that it's a control mechanism which keeps the generally public oblivious to what's really going on.
TOKYO - The U.S. government has 10 days, the Okinawan people, "master of deception and blackmail" and dismissed the same day by Japanese director Kevin Maher and he said the State Department, was appointed Deputy Chief of Deming 駐日 yuan last successor . It strengthened the opposition from various sectors under the prefecture said, formally apologized for the confusion caused by the reports said. Aims to settle the situation around for the early impact of the issue of relocating the U.S. Marine Corps returned, the United States were evaluated for the Japanese government. But the facts of the United States is not to say obviously not within the prefecture anger. Relocation of Futenma Air Station within the prefecture has become more difficult situation.
United States Department of States Briefing
December 3rd, 4pm, at the Department of State
Participants
-Department of State:
Mr. Kevin K. Maher, Director of the Office of Japan Affairs
-American University:
14 Members of Alternative Break Trip to Okinawa, Japan,
Winter Break
2010, "U.S. Military Bases and Their Impacts in Okinawa, Japan"
Presentation
※All opinions and claims are from Mr. Maher
-I was the Consul General in Okinawa until 2009. It is said that a half of U.S. bases in Japan is located in Okinawa, but the statistic only includes bases used exclusively by the US Military. If all bases, US bases and bases jointly used by the US and JSDF, are considered, the percent of bases in Okinawa is much lower.
-The controversial bases in Okinawa were originally in the middle of rice fields, but are now in the middle of towns because Okinawans allowed urbanization and population growth to surround United States facilities.
-The US bases in Okinawa exist for regional security. The Japanese obligation under the US-Japan security treaty is to provide land for bases. The relationship between Japan and the US under the security treaty is asymmetric and benefits the Japanese to the detriment of the US. Japan is not obligated to defend the United States if US forces are attacked, but the United States must defend and protect Japan’s people and property.
-Collective security is not a constitutional issue, but a policy issue.
-Eighteen thousand (18,000) US Marines and an air wing are stationed in Okinawa. The United States needs bases in Okinawa for two reasons: bases are already there and Okinawa is an important geographical location.
- (While showing a map of East Asia) US Forces Japan is headquartered in Tokyo and is the location of a logistics hub that would coordinate supplies and troops in the event of a crisis. Misawa, an important base in the Cold War, is the closest U.S. base to Russia and the base at Iwakuni is only 30 min from Korea, yet Okinawa’s geographic location is important to regional security.
-Okinawa was an independent Kingdom paying tribute to China, although it has never been a part of China. The U.S. occupied Okinawa until 1972.
-The Okinawan people’s anger and frustration is directed at Japan rather than the United States.The DPJ government does not understand Okinawa. The Japanese government does not have a “pipe” of communication to Okinawa. When I offer to contact people in Okinawa DPJ officials say “Yes! Yes, please!” The LDP communicated with Okinawa and understood Okinawan concerns better than the current DPJ government.
-One third of people believe the world would be more peaceful without a military. It is impossible to talk with such people.
-The 2009 electionbrought the DPJ to power, which was the first change in the government of Japan.Hatoyama was a leftist politician. Despite the DPJ and PM Hatoyama, the US and Japan managed to issue the 2+2 statement in May. (Mr. Maher left the room and two his colleagues gave a lecture about the US-Japan economic relationship. Mr. Maher returned to resume his lecture and the two officials left the room.)
-The US will relocate 8000 Marines from Futenma to Guam in order to reduce the US Military footprint on Okinawa. The plan will allow the US to maintain a military presence in the region to provide regional security and deterrence capability.Under the Roadmap, Japan will provide money for the relocation and it is a sign of a tangible effort from Japan. The DPJ government has delayed implementation, but I am confident that government will implement the existing plan. Tokyo needs to tell the Okinawan Governor, “if you want money, sign it [agree to the relocation plan].”
-There is nowhere else to base US Marines. The DPJ suggested a replacement facility in mainland Japan, but there is no place in mainland Japan for the US Military.
-Japanese culture is a culture of "Wa" (harmony) that is based on consensus. Consensus building is important in Japanese culture. While the Japanese would call this “consensus,” they mean “extortion” and use this culture of consensus as a means of “extortion.” By pretending to seek consensus, people try to get as much money as possible. Okinawans are masters of “manipulation” and “extortion” of Tokyo.
-Okinawa's main industry is tourism. While there is an agricultural industry, the main industry is tourism. Although Okinawans grow goya, other prefectures grow morethan Okinawa. Okinawans are too lazy to grow goya.
-Okinawa has the highest divorce rate, birthrate (especially out of wedlock) and drunk-driving rate due to Okinawa’s culture of drinking liquor with high alcohol content.
-You should be carefulabout “tatemae and honne” while in Japan. Tatemae and honne is the “idea that words and actual intentions are different." While in Okinawa, I said MCAS Futenma “is not especially dangerous." My statements caused Okinawans to protest in front of my office. Although Okianwans claim MCAS Futenma is the most dangerous base in the world,they know it is not true. Fukuoka Airport and Osaka Itami Airport are just as dangerous.
-Japanese politicians do Tatemae and Honne all the time. Okinawan politicians will agree to a negotiation in Tokyo but return to Okinawa and claim they did not. The US Ambassador and other representatives to Japan are constantly criticized for speaking the truth because the Japanese culture is too focused on tatemae and honne.
-The US Military and JSDF have different mentalities. The US Military trains to prepare for possible deployment, but the JSDF train without actually preparing for deployment.
-Local people oppose to night training by the US Military but it is necessary because modern warfare is often fought at night. Night training is essential to maintain deterrence capability.
-I don’t think Article Nine of the Japanese Constitution should change. I doubt it will ever be changed. It would be bad for the United States if the Japanese Constitution was changed because Japan would not need the United States’ Military. If the Japanese Constitution was changed the United States would not be able to use Japanese land to advance US interests. The high host nation support the Japanese government currently paysis beneficial to the US.We’ve got a very good deal in Japan.
Originally posted by BlastedCaddy
Im new to the whole HAARP thing. What does all of this mean?
Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by wisdomnotemotion
Benjamin Fulford would be someone id like to hear from now .
For those who don't know , ....
Since 2009, Fulford has stated that the US government, using a secret military program known as HAARP
(High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) has been altering the climate, and using high power microwave energy inducing earthquakes including the Asian Tsunami (2004) and earthquakes in Japan (1995), China (2008), Haiti (2010), Chile (2010), New Zealand (2011), Japan (2011)