8.9 Quake hits off coast of Japan! Live Updates.

www.kansascity.com...

Officials declined to say what the temperature was inside the Unit 1 reactor. At 2,200 degrees, the zirconium casings of the fuel rods can react with the cooling water and create hydrogen. At 4,000 degrees, the uranium fuel pellets inside the rods start to melt, the beginning of a meltdown.

I would say 4,000 degrees would cause problems for any robots.

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what if we stripped the space shuttle of some tiles or took some russian tiles and lined the robot with them there light weight high temp and if any things gonna stop radiation its something from soemthing that goes into space imo and things are geting desperate and its time for desperate attempts

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The military has blocked access to twitter, ebay and a number of sites to deal with the relief efforts, they say.
A lot of folks I know that are NOT military can't use Twitter right now.

I heard on CNN TV about an hour ago that there was a hydrogen explosion at Plant Number 4.
There just seems to be a lot going on right now b/c of the US expanding the evacuation zone requirements for US citizens.

www.latimes.com...
Japan nuclear radiation: Will travel insurance cover you?

Insurers are already grappling with this question, with different outcomes. But several I contacted this week agreed on one point: Unless you had added a so-called cancel-for-any-reason rider to your policy, you won’t be reimbursed for your trip deposits and other costs if you cancel your Japan trip solely because you worry that you might encounter radiation—or any other problem, for that matter.

That’s because insurance covers events, not states of mind. If on the other hand, your hotel is an area that has been evacuated because of radiation concerns, or has been shut down because of those concerns, there’s a chance you might be able to collect on the policy. (So far this question, thankfully, seems mostly hypothetical. None of the insurers I spoke with reported receiving such a claim.)

What a joke.

Ugh...
5.3 Quake in Valparaiso, Chile...
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Seems the whole pacific plate is responding to the tension...
Let's hope that tension is released in a low-populated area, but seeing that "triple-frontier" near the south of japan... It makes me shiver...
Let's see how things turn out...

Greetz

Drakus.

Analysis: Japan nuclear crisis reaches new levels

(Reuters) - Japan's nuclear crisis may have taken its most dangerous turn yet after a U.S. official said one of the pools containing highly radioactive spent fuel rods at the stricken plant had run dry.

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Originally posted by kroms33
Analysis: Japan nuclear crisis reaches new levels

(Reuters) - Japan's nuclear crisis may have taken its most dangerous turn yet after a U.S. official said one of the pools containing highly radioactive spent fuel rods at the stricken plant had run dry.

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I just heard about the above on CNN...the folks in trying to rectify that mess are on for all intents and purposes, a suicide mission...
Gadz. I guess the Japanese people are starting not to trust what the government/management of TEPCO is telling them...
Those pools running dry are a potential catastrophe in the purest sense of the word...gadz

Just got in from work and checked Iris for update

www.iris.edu...

Those red circles are all today!



Even one in the Toronto Area

16-MAR-2011 23:38:19 39.17 142.66 5.7 25.3 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:36:16 -32.47 -71.42 5.3 24.7 NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE
16-MAR-2011 22:14:52 38.83 144.20 5.1 26.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:07:53 38.80 144.19 5.0 25.7 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 22:03:21 37.61 143.48 5.1 39.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 20:44:42 37.36 143.61 5.3 20.2 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 19:35:02 37.64 141.99 5.0 24.9 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 18:23:08 29.41 141.81 5.0 23.6 SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 18:12:59 37.16 142.13 5.0 35.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 17:55:01 36.28 143.15 4.2 25.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
16-MAR-2011 17:36:55 45.57 -74.55 4.3 18.0 SOUTHERN ONTARIO, CANADA

The nuclear thread guys are completely ignoring my stupid ideas so I will post here Could an artificial ozone layer enclosing the facilities be a possible solution. Our ozone blocks something like 97% of harmful solar radiation, perhaps a dome or structure that is somehow comrised of O3 could possibly reduce the amount of radiation.

What we have to watch for Zorgon are all those new small quakes that are starting in areas they usually do not occur. It seems there are a couple on that IRIS map you posted today.

BBC are just reporting that US observers are maintaining there is no water at all in the base of reactor 4.
The Japanese are saying that this is not trues as they are continuing to pump in there.
Someone is not telling the truth.

www.bbc.co.uk...



www.telegraph.co.uk...

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I just heard about the above on CNN...the folks in trying to rectify that mess are on for all intents and purposes, a suicide mission...
Gadz. I guess the Japanese people are starting not to trust what the government/management of TEPCO is telling them...
Those pools running dry are a potential catastrophe in the purest sense of the word...gadz

I opened a twitter account just to follow what is going on in real time. It does not look good at all. I know the Japanese Government wants to be honorable, and have the world see Japan as an example of how to react to a catastrophe like this... but they have to realize that now it is beyond that - and many millions of more lives are at stake. They need to open up to the world and let nuclear scientists in from any country to try to solve this mess. If those spent fuel rods melt there is going to be massive problems around the globe. I am not just talking 1 or 2 reactors... the focus is on all 6. They have grouped 6 reactors together and are trying to play "whack a mole" with 50 people trying to stop them from melting down... doesn't make sense.

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I find it weird that the US government is the one telling the truth, has hell really frozen over?

Originally posted by Dyzan
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I find it weird that the US government is the one telling the truth, has hell really frozen over?

Yeah I had to re-read that post a few times...the US gov't might be telling the truth?!?!

Alos I'm seeing via Reuters that a helo has started dropping/spraying water on Fukushima Daiichi #3.

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Yes, but that is a different kind of radiation. What would have to be done is the same thing that happened at chernobyl. Encase it in concrete. Problem: 6 reactors could melt down - with the spent fuel rods... not a good thing. I think with the fuel rods, and the spend fuel rods - even the concrete would melt away.
*I am not an expert, but it's just the way I see it as happening...

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Watching it live now.

www.livestation.com...

Originally posted by martin3030
BBC are just reporting that US observers are maintaining there is no water at all in the base of reactor 4.
The Japanese are saying that this is not trues as they are continuing to pump in there.
Someone is not telling the truth.

Where are these US observers? Do we have people on the ground at the plant or are we looking down on them via sats?

The US sent drones over the plants to take detailed photos.

www.cbsnews.com...

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Yeah, Live station is jammed up - no bandwidth.... there is a link on CNN that works. They are dumping water on in.

Link is on left called : LIVE: Copter drops water on reactor