8.9 Quake hits off coast of Japan! Live Updates.

reply to post by Nightchild


It would be nice to get at last a basic explanation so we know whether it was because of citation violation or something else. If it was because of links, that's very disconcerting. It could be any of us.

Sorry for the big charts, it gets the attention, I hardly look at links and when people are busy looking they just scroll past them, I saw that someone did the same 150 pages down from here and people responded well to them so I guess it is a different crowd this time.

+I am watching Fox news and what is really sad to me is with this disaster going Obama is out Golfing and laughing and having a good time.

I am American and I think this is a disgrace wrong time wrong place. I am ashamed myself and they are saying he is just taking another day off WTH half his Presidency it seems he has taken off.

Meanwhile outside of Japan... no one has been looking at how far this Tsunami has reached. 3 t0 8 foot high tidal surges in California ripped boats to shreads... 5 'lookyloos' in Oregon got swept away, 4 were rescued

This is John Large talking here, a nuclear expert.
and this is what he has to say today.

“EXPERT DOUBTS GOVERNMENT­...

Nuclear expert John Large today questioned Fukushima'­s '4' status, telling The First Post: "We're not getting the informatio­n out of the government but I would say this is a significan­t nuclear event. You don't blow the top off a building and say it's not."

Japanese Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said today that there was the possibilit­y of an explosion at the No 3 reactor but he was confident the steel containing vessel around the core of the reactor would withstand the blast – as it did when No 1 reactor blew up on Saturday.
Large said he found this hard to believe.

The "jellyfish­" shape of Saturday's explosion and the decision to vent the reactor's secondary containmen­t – releasing radioactiv­e vapour and necessitat­ing the evacuation of local people – all suggest fuel rods had melted and leaked from the primary containmen­t.”

Source

Gives a whole new meaning to "whole lotta shaking goin' on" doesn't it ??

Thanks for the posting TA, lots of excellent information !

Tom

www.defense.gov...

Radiation Forces U.S. 7th Fleet to Reposition Ships
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, March 14, 2011 – The U.S. 7th Fleet has temporarily repositioned its ships and aircraft away from Japan’s Fukushima Dai-Ichi Nuclear Power Plant after detecting low-level contamination in the air and on its aircraft operating in the area.

The source of this airborne radioactivity is a radioactive plume released from the power plant, officials said.

In a statement announcing the decision, officials emphasized that the maximum potential radiation dose received by anyone aboard a ship that passed through the area was less than the radiation exposure received from about a month of exposure to natural background radiation from sources such as rocks, soil and the sun.

The USS Ronald Reagan was operating about 100 miles northeast of the power plant at the time. Using sensitive instruments, precautionary measurements of three helicopter aircrews returning to the ship after conducting disaster relief missions near Sendai identified low levels of radioactivity on 17 air crew members.

reply to post by JBA2848


I don't mean this just at you but it's making it hard to sift through these threads if people keep posting the same info over and over this has been covered in a bunch of threads multiple times...if you go back through this one I bet you'll find it posted at least 4 times!

reply to post by burntheships


When #3 blew its top it looked like a small mushroom cloud

reply to post by zorgon


Yes, it was another demonstration of the force/scale involved - I heard that there were three hundred buildings/homes wiped out in Peru (I think via BBC radio) from the tsunami - anybody else hear about that?

If true, it would seem to suggest/confirm that, as in Japan, the terrain that the tsunami meets and is channeled through determines to a large extent the severity of it's final impact/height/speed...

BREAKING NEWS: Partial defect found in No.2 reactor's container: Edano (06:58)

NEWS ADVISORY: No sharp rise seen in radiation from No. 2 reactor: Edano

Kyodo

These are breaking headlines, not old repeats.

reply to post by zorgon


True, but then again so does any sizable explosion. It's a rapid release of a large amour of energy and that particular explosion did a significant amount more damagethan did the first. All you have to do is look at the satellite photo posted a page ago and you can see how much more destuctive the second blast was.

There were pieces the size of my house hurled a couple of hundred feet in the air that could clearly be seen to rain down in the video of the event.

Huge fire near a Shelter, and its huge, what more can these people go through...

I didn't hear about the homes/buildings being demolished in Peru.

Might have to tune in the BBC tonight, see what they've got to say about all this. . . .

Tom

Dianne Sawyer and others on abc news (tv) special report from Japan

now you can watch all these videos ...again

started 5 minutes ago

On usgs site no aftershocks reported for last 3 hours in Honshu region. The same as before big hit of 9.0. I HOPE this is the end end of aftershocks. Interesting is that before 9.0 on friday there were small tremors in Kuril islands and Hawaii region.

Originally posted by jovanoti
On usgs site no aftershocks reported for last 3 hours in Honshu region. The same as before big hit of 9.0. I HOPE this is the end end of aftershocks. Interesting is that before 9.0 on friday there were small tremors in Kuril islands and Hawaii region.

Looking at GEE, something went off at around 22:20. Just waiting to see what usgs makes of it.

You may remember way back in this thread I mentioned speaking to an x sellafield worker who said....

We are only getting 5% of the info just now (Saturday morning) and the markers are not yet met. He told me that there would be no internationsl nuclear support or help asked for untill the melt down or melt downs were crytical.
I guess thats the stage we are at now. Caesium 137, 132 were first noted 36 hours ago and that is when a melt down took place. There is no such thing as a partial meltdown it is iether safe or in meltdown where we are at this stage of the crisis.

Caesium 132, 137 has half lifes of 30 and 2 years respectively and he could not understand why they had not used aircraft based concreting to seal plant 1. Now we know it was because it was too late.

You dont need me to tell you this is realy bad. Bad for us, the planet and everything on it. Dont kid yourself its still fixable. Its not.

Respects

Originally posted by zorgon
Meanwhile outside of Japan... no one has been looking at how far this Tsunami has reached. 3 t0 8 foot high tidal surges in California ripped boats to shreads... 5 'lookyloos' in Oregon got swept away, 4 were rescued

You know, i was thinking just ten minutes ago that no footage had been shown of the tsunami hitting other coasts. When the tsunami first hit Sky news kept showing a map of how long the wave will take to travel the ocean and a time for when each coast could expect it, yet after an hour or two they never mentioned it again. So thanks for those videos : )

Just checked the earthquake map here quakes.globalincidentmap.com... and WOW!! they don't call it the ring of fire for nothing do they? at least the quakes in Japan have settled a little, according to that map the last one was 3 hours ago.. a 5.2.

Also some dude professor was on a bit back saying this nuclear accident at WORST CASE scenario would not be that bad and would be no where near as bad as Chernobyl. Seems to me these "experts" can't seem to agree on what they think.

Our hearts and prayers are with you Japan.

2226: David, in Tokyo, writes: "I have lived in Japan for 20 years, and last night sent my family to the west of Japan 700km from Tokyo to stay with relatives. Like Japanese people I don't believe what we are being told by Tepco or the government. We have just been told of a 'deficit' in the reactor 2 by the government in a 0630 announcement. Governments only make announcements at that time if the problem is serious.
www.bbc.co.uk...
Has anyone else seen this?