2 Suns you say? I offer proof.

If someone used HAARP's style technology to push up Earth's atmosphere to slow down enemy satellites to destroy their orbit.....

You would see a mirage style reaction and see 2 suns.

It happened. Denial of Space Capability. There is nobody that can deny us Space Capability...thus we win.

To the majority of Earth we can make them think God himself is doing things with the technology we have.

Don't want country X to have crops this year? Zap their crops so their entire crop fails. They'll be your buddy when their tummies are empty. They'll have to or DIE.

Originally posted by Pervius
If someone used HAARP's style technology to push up Earth's atmosphere to slow down enemy satellites to destroy their orbit.....

You would see a mirage style reaction and see 2 suns.

You are stating this as fact. Could you provide us with a published source please? I'm particularly interested in the scientific process that leads to "HAARP style technology" creating a mirage image of two Suns.

Originally posted by Misterlondon
I'm completely on the fence with this whole subject, but I have to point out a major flaw in your post. Your photograph states it is midday sun, all the stories, threads, photos and videos I've read have all said this object can only be seen at sunrise or sunset..

I read that the best time to take a picture was at 2 pm

Originally posted by Qcuailon
reply to post by DJW001

 

My link has NOTHING to do with a double sun huh? LOL... Would you like to see it again?

I am absolutely ASTOUNDED how people can read this and then say, your article has NOTHING to do with two suns. In fact, I am over here laughing my butt off at the sheer amount of denial in some folks.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Read it, and then...read it again. That way you can clearly see that the scientist refers to this phenomenon as "Two SUNS."

Whew...

Take your own advice and read it again, please. Not just the title, because that seems like all you did. You know, I can find an article that says "it's raining cats and dogs!" if you read this article it seems like you would actually think cats and dogs were falling from the sky.

The article talks about betelgeuse, a star that is over 600 light years away. It is absolutely nowhere near our solar system, let alone earth.

The people claiming to photograph second suns, nibiruis, whatever else are claiming an object is WITHIN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.

Now, tell me how a star 600 light years away has anything to do with proving, or even giving credibility to, the idea that there is another sun or another huge planet smack dab in the middle of the solar system?

Originally posted by iversusvsversusi
And, another thing. I dont believe it is "so close to our sun." I was under the impression that it was quite far away, but HUGE , so at times, appears similar to the size of the sun. As time goes on it should be getting quite obvious.

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Well, I can't say your wrong as we wont know. What I can say is that there are a few pictures of this supposed second sun that show it being the same size (from our perspective) as our sun.

Then there are other photos showing it as being very tiny. People use BOTH of these videos to claim it's the same thing, which makes non sense. For something to go from looking like the size of the sun, to being a tiny dot in a few weeks either means it's changing size randomly, or it has an impossibly fast orbit. Or it means it's not there. I leave it up to you to decide which one makes more sense.

Originally posted by Qcuailon
reply to post by James1982

 

No, you're just lying to yourself. How does that feel by the way? To actually look yourself in the mirror and lie just so your world doesn't cave in against itself?

So, you can try your deflection and skeptic techniques against someone who will actually bow down to lesser intelligence. I have studied this longer than you've been to school and think that I have quite the sound study techniques.

My information comes from reliable sources, yours comes from opinion and conjecture.

So, just as the science article states, "There could be two suns to view in the future..."

That, by the way, is according to "scientists" and not armchair, self-made specialists who spend their time arguing on ATS without the slightest clue of what they are arguing, or why.

BYE...

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What are your techniques? Skimming through an article and cherry picking out phrases that support your idea, without actually comprehending what the subject matter of the article is? Seems like it!

You have things quite mixed up as it is you who is basing your idea on opinion on conjecture. There is no credible or scientifically accepted theory or idea that there are two SUNs, or even a huge planet so close to the sun that we are seeing it. No Tyche doesn't count, at this stage it's only a theory, a theory that points to it being in the oort cloud. We would not be able to see it that's where it was.

Using insults is usually a sign of a lost or failing argument. In place of logic or evidence the next best thing is attacking people. So please, post up some evidence or go home.

Originally posted by Qcuailon
reply to post by pazcat

 

You say that is if I WROTE THE ARTICLE. You can call it what you choose, it is a reputable article and addresses the "Two Suns" phenomenon.

I would expect that someone who "Doesn't agree" with the article would surely say, "Its poor journalism" because it obviously contradicts what you have built in your mind as reality...its not my fault you have a very narrow scope of tangibility. Attack the article, attack the scientist, attack the principle...in the end, it still comes out to the same thing, "Scientists say two suns may be possible to be seen by 2012." END OF STORY.

I know that this article is like sunlight to a vampire, or Kryptonite to superman...or more to the point, "Logic to the fool," but, REAL scientists are already aware and are preparing for this phenomenon.

You'll either have to accept it and be the adults that society expects of you, or, you can do what you're doing now and bury your head in the sand while plugging your eyes and ears screaming, "la la la, I can't hear you, la la la."

Here it is again for those who would like a reputable source indicating the possibility of two suns in the future:
www.huffingtonpost.com...
www.news.com.au... 09247

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If the article says "two suns " that doesn't mean there are literally two suns.
Regarding of wampires - just look at how you reacting to something that contradicts your belief. For me it looks like wampire's reaction to the sun. Nothing personal.

Regarding of "two suns by 2012" - same article now is saying:

"UPDATE II: In a follow-up piece on news.com.au, Dr. Carter stressed that there is no way of knowing when the star may go supernova. U.S. astronomer Phil Plait added, "Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years. We're just not sure."

So if you literally believe to what articles are saying, prepare also to wait 100.000 years.

Why to fight like a crazy? If you have an argument - tell it and back it up with evidence. Like person who started thos subject.

Ther is tons of this stuff on youtube example www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... is a pretty good one some of the other I've seen have been not so real looking or probably fake but this was on the news and looks to be pretty real to me. Pretty interesting something will come about this soon probably on october 16, 2011 endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com... www.xnewsarchive.com... anybody seen the movie "Deep Impact" we seems like almost the same format could happen www.youtube.com...

"Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years."

That is like saying it will rain some day. The whole Betelgeuse thing is a joke. Any number of stars could go nova or supernova in the next 100,000 years or for that fact in the next 5 minutes.

At 640 light years away if it went boom right now we would not know about for 640 years from now. Or another way to see this is that if we 'see' it go nova 'now' then it in fact went nova 640 years ago.

But like I said at the start making the statement is like say it will rain some day.