Turkey ready to invade Libya in exchange for EU membership

reply to post by Rentor


Your news source is Armenian ....... correct ?

Quite a bit of bad blood between themselves and Turkey .


Any other sources ?

Ahaha! Turkey is so stupid. EU has become an automatic bankrupting system. The member countries aren't doing very well...

As for the Lybia invasion, I smell a WW-like scenario (it won't happen to my opinion, but it is very similar).


But again, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This country is nuts!

Turkey has a formidable military.

www.globalfirepower.com...

More so than Israel, discounting the American nuclear deterrent, given to them. What's wrong with a Muslim country policing their own? Only the US and UK can make unilateral decisions like this? Say the source is wrong. OK. Why the stab at Turkey by our members? Because it's a predominantly Muslim country? They are willing to help, loosens up more troops to go into more oil producing Arab countries. Asking the EU to acknowledge their contribution and accept a Muslim state into the EU is too much?

Oops, I forgot. Turkey won't bow a knee to Tel Aviv.

Originally posted by intrepid
Turkey has a formidable military.

www.globalfirepower.com...

More so than Israel, discounting the American nuclear deterrent, given to them. What's wrong with a Muslim country policing their own? Only the US and UK can make unilateral decisions like this? Say the source is wrong. OK. Why the stab at Turkey by our members? Because it's a predominantly Muslim country? They are willing to help, loosens up more troops to go into more oil producing Arab countries. Asking the EU to acknowledge their contribution and accept a Muslim state into the EU is too much?

Oops, I forgot. Turkey won't bow a knee to Tel Aviv.

Hi Intrepid,

True, but when they decided to go against Israel is when they more or less shown their true colors.

Originally posted by tristar
True, but when they decided to go against Israel is when they more or less shown their true colors.

Going against the Knesset is a bad thing? Why? Keep taking it dry as they screw the region shouldn't be challenged?

WOW wait a min here Turkey to offer Libya EU membership??? The Euporean union is becoming a joke now and an empire.

Libya an Euporean union country? Libya is in the middle east, i am sorry to say but for once i think this uprising but a fabrication by the usa government.


Libyans want democracy? heck we here dont have any democracy to speak of.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by tristar
True, but when they decided to go against Israel is when they more or less shown their true colors.

Going against the Knesset is a bad thing? Why? Keep taking it dry as they screw the region shouldn't be challenged?

Lets break this down here,

Since Turkey isn't really what you or many would call it a democratic state since its military have a direct influence on its internal and external policy. This has created multiple problems for the U.S. , E.U. and regional N.A.T.O allied nations. They have been lets say, in a subtle sense, been told to adapt to the new agenda were N.A.T.O. allies must respect borders and not confront them as a potential threat. This obviously has been repeatedly overlooked and disregarded. With the recent events with the so called freedom flotilla and after internal traffic stated that the I.D.F. will not accept any such movements and as a result, sadly lives were lost. Now, instead of taking the diplomatic approach they (military) chose to provoke the general muslim orientated population into a hyped issue that they were at fault, although the internal security forces of Turkey were well informed of I.D.F. intentions as were E.U. member states and military forces.

Given that in 08-09 Turkey had sent F4's with six F16 in a fast low level recon flight that were intercepted by the h.a.f. that resulted in an aerial dog fight and the loss of a h.a.f as orders were to intercept and not shoot from nato hq was far from pleasing to the state dept. Now i ask you, why would a nato allie send recon low level towards a u.s. naval base, knowing full well that its aa abilities are similar to what nato has in naples. Is because slowly but surely true colors are beginning to emerge and everyone is well aware of the signal flares.

If they were in the EU, they could all travel legally, set up houseeping, start Mosques, and enter the political process. We are talking about a lot of poor people that have no opportunity, so they want to get into the EU. I don't know of any country in the EU that is saying 'We need more workers." Then they have problems if they can't practice some element of their religion. In so many instances where there is interface of Moslems and other beliefs, there is some sort of violence developing. I do not see them as able to mix with anybody.

Of course if they did this, they would take possession of all their oil wells and resources. Who would imagine them turning things over to the Libians?

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
WOW wait a min here Turkey to offer Libya EU membership??? The Euporean union is becoming a joke now and an empire.

No, Turkey has no way of offering Libya EU membership, only the EU has that power and Turkey is not part of the EU, at least not yet.

I think this (probably fake) news piece says is that Turkey is offering their help in Libya if the EU accepts Turkey as a member, which can only happen with all EU members agreement.

Libya an Euporean union country? Libya is in the middle east, i am sorry to say but for once i think this uprising but a fabrication by the usa government.

No, Libya is in the North of Africa, not the Middle East. Italy is more to the East than Libya, only on the opposite side of the Mediterranean.

reply to post by Rentor


Part of me thinks their is ulterior motives at work. With the change in Government in Turkey to a more middle east alligned setup, I wonder why they would offer this.

I am curious if they would withdraw from Libya afterwards, o would be instrumental in putting a new regime in place.

reply to post by ArMaP


i was making a point in my post but thanks for clearing it up
and i know i agree with you on that.

reply to post by tristar


turkey was in no shape to wage any large scale war after the complete devastation that was WW1

Originally posted by tomcat ha
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turkey was in no shape to wage any large scale war after the complete devastation that was WW1

Really, well i beg to differ on that.

WW1
europeanhistory.about.com...

That also does not justify its option to not support a unified front against a superior force regardless of cost.

WW2
www.secondworldwar.co.uk...

Originally posted by DuneKnight
and what have iran involved to and have an arab cold war??

Dude...

Wonky logic there fella, neither Turkey or Iran is Arabic...

reply to post by Laurauk


Cyprus, Malta and Italy are much more likely staging posts for any NATO mission. the USAF actually has bases in Italy and the UK in Cyprus.

reply to post by tristar


Going against Israel is a good thing for peace in the region and good on the Turks for reminding the Israeli's that they ain't the only big kid on the block.

reply to post by tristar


You can harp on about the Turkish military being heavily involved in Politics as much as you want, but they are the only thing keeping Turkey true to it's secular constitution, Without the Turkish military stopping Islamic radical's taking over, you'd have a huge and powerful Islamic nation that would become very anti-Israel and anti-West overnight.

I suggest you take a look at the situation in Turkey and realise just how close to the precipice they are with regards to Islamic Parties taking power. A few years ago, the military was a gnats bollock away from staging a coup to oust Erdogan and his Islamic party due to what they wanted to implement.

Originally posted by stumason
I suggest you take a look at the situation in Turkey and realise just how close to the precipice they are with regards to Islamic Parties taking power. A few years ago, the military was a gnats bollock away from staging a coup to oust Erdogan and his Islamic party due to what they wanted to implement.

As far as your interpretation to if and what if Islamic parties were to be elected and how that would change the balance of power across the M.E. and within E.U. border states, well that would depend on what stand they take. You see, not all islamic leaders openly attack the U.S., Israel or E.U. member states. But it serves them well to manipulate the general hostile feeling towards anything U.S. , E.U. or Israeli orientateded, this is a common practice within an uneducated majority of citizens. We see this happen every day across every nation that lives within a closed door.

So if Turkey was to openly announce any and i stress any hostile approach to the E.U.,Israeli U.S. , Russian, Chinese interests no matter what military figures or industrial military complex it or any other nation has, it will simply fall into a non existent state. The mere notion of religion as a factor to destabilize global order is similar to using nukes.

In short, it wont have time to react let alone inform its public as it would fall into a state of confusion and implode. Do you believe any nation is allowed to build its military without someone holding the safety pin ?

I wouldn't be surprised. I have been saying for years that the anti-christ will come from Turkey. The anti christ is probably in the AKP. They are in talks with the Muslim Brotherhood .

I have said that the anti christ will come to power when Turkey becomes part of the EU. Whoever he is, he's alive in Turkey right now.

Obama is helping to pave the way for him either unknowingly or knowingly. It's not a surprise that Obama met with the Muslim Brotherhood and he's doesn't like Israel. Obama is connected to the Nation of Islam. He belongs to the Christian version of the Nation of Islam called black liberation theology.

At the end of the day, Turkey will join the EU and the Muslim Brotherhood will reign in the Middle East. America will be weakened when the E.U. and the Muslim Brotherhood attack Israel.

I call propaganda.

Sensationalist headline that is patently ridiculous: "Turkey ready to invade Libya in exchange for EU membership" .. "invade" oooh, "ready" ahhh.. implying an "invasion" size Turkish forces are locked, loaded & "ready".. which I doubt.

The source of this drama.. "the World Tribune reported referring to Middle East Newsline."

"Middle East Newsline"?.. www.menewsline.com... is run by some dude in Israel named
Steve Rodan who once worked as a "special correspondent and editor for the Jerusalem Post." according to the "about" page: www.menewsline.com...

This link of unknown credibility says:
cosmos.ucc.ie...
"Steve Rodan was a KPFA Pacifica News reporter in Israel until it was revealed that he was on the Israeli government payroll. "

Interesting that the above page says "To refer someone else to this page, use this URL: www.corkpsc.org..."... however that URL is blocked, to me anyway... I get this:

"Reported Attack Page! This web page at www.corkpsc.org has been reported as an attack page and has been blocked based on your security preferences. Attack pages try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system. Some attack pages intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners."

reply to post by Laurauk


Yes Laura, and what do you think the Syrians and Iranians, who have a border with Turkey, would be doing while Turkey was invading Muslim Libya on behalf of the Christian EU?

By the way, that`s a fine pair of wings you have there. 8-))

I'm writing from Istanbul, no news about this here.. This is fake Turkey will never 'invade' anywhere I guess, because half of Turkey is fighting to get rid of their religious government for 6-7 years and the government is doing whatever they want, whenever they need.. They may be more like scavangers, they may take an advantage of the regime change in Libya or any middle east and eastern muslim countries by having big deals (muslim helps, of course) on railroads, airports or other major title businesses. Also the government needs arab money and oil, so have to get along well with all muslims, yes they are also known as the religious government in Turkey, but they are also the puppets of the US, especially CFR Abdullah Gul and Erdogan made many closed meetings and phone calls with several CFR authorities, Hillary Clinton and others I suppose.