Mans best friend for 7000yrs

The 7000yr old remains of a 'Husky like dog' have been found in Siberia buried with grave goods.

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The dog's skeleton showed signs of having carried heavy loads on its back and injuries possibly caused while hunting for deer. While it is possible that the damage was caused by human hands the dogs careful burial speak of a much loved animal.

The male dog ate the same foods as the humans found buried along side it.

"I think the act of treating it as a human upon its death indicates that people knew it had a soul, and that the mortuary rites it received were meant to ensure that this soul was properly cared for," added Losey, an associate professor of anthropology at the University of Alberta.

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Truely mans best friend

Its interesting to note that the dog seems to have received the same treatment at death as humans, I assume this must of been a very good working dog!

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Nice husky grave!

I HATE DOGS!

Here is a picture of a wolf skeleton for comparison.

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Do you think they look similar ... other than the bone aspect?

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they actually found a wolf skeleton at a site near by but there was no evidence that it had interacted with humans while it was alive.

From the same general time period, the scientists also found a wolf burial at a site called Lokomotiv near the Irkut and Angara rivers in Siberia.
The wolf, which did not consume human-provided foods, appears to have died of old age. Its remains were found wrapped around a human skull. There is no evidence the wolf interacted with the person when alive.source

Thank you Versa

I just lost my best friend, he was a 20 year old Jack Russell Terrier. I was pondering questions like if he has a soul, even though within my heart I know. This thread is what I need at the moment. Thank you for this timely gift.

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Nice collie
I have a border collie bitch 17yrs old and still running for England

I believe dogs do have a soul. I have 4 beagles, and they are like children to me. They each have their own personality. Dogs love unconditionally, just like your children.
Nothing beats coming home from a long day at work and being greeted by them! They will not rest till all of them get their licks in lol

Originally posted by Versa
The 7000yr old remains of a 'Husky like dog' have been found in Siberia buried with grave goods.


"I think the act of treating it as a human upon its death indicates that people knew it had a soul, and that the mortuary rites it received were meant to ensure that this soul was properly cared for," added Losey, an associate professor of anthropology at the University of Alberta.

Whoa, wait a sec... I thought that the world was only 6000 years old and that the Christian 'God' didnt give mans-best-friend a soul.

Oh wait, thats just those nutty christain views. Whew, I almost got carried away in that nonsense!!

If anything, I betcha that dogs have more of a soul than most humans to be honest. Mans-best-friend is truly a wonderful companion.

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Sorry for your loss! 20 years is a long long life for a pup. You were blessed!

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Thanks!
In fact I don't even know what race it is exactly...
My sister asked me "crying" to take care of him because she was going to have a baby!
So , dog+baby DO NOT MATCH...
At least this is how is done around our family!
I also had a caniche ooooolllddd as hell , that had to be "given the injection" last year because he did not eat anymore , he was paralyzed from head to tail , didn't hear anymore , did not see almost at all with one eye , wasn't piiing or pooing anymore , he just stood in a place for about 2-3 days , just drank water and piii himself...
We decided this can't go like this any longer , called a veterinary med , asked his opinion about WHAT IS TO BE DONE ABOUT THE POOR ANIMAL , and later that evening he was given the injection...
I'm sorry for him , I dug his "hole" , my sister buried him I couldn't do that ...
They are nice animals but tend to become VERY teritorial with time!
If you know the dog , he might "forgive you" but a strange dog , never meet before can be VERY DANGEROUS!
I like dogs , but I still hate them "a little" !

Oh! I thought it would be cats?
I love both cats and dogs.
got a dog now.

as for the grave.
could it be the dog dug up the grave to eat the dead man.
then died?

I bet dogs and cats have been with use for more than 7000 years.

Originally posted by electricalpup
Thank you Versa

I just lost my best friend, he was a 20 year old Jack Russell Terrier. I was pondering questions like if he has a soul, even though within my heart I know. This thread is what I need at the moment. Thank you for this timely gift.

Im so sorry to hear that my girl is 17yrs at the moment and hopefully she'll carry on for a bit longer. For what its worth I think its obvious that they have a soul

This dog Donnie arranges his toys in patterns and matches specific toys together, if you can find a program on him it is unbelievable!

Originally posted by buddha
Oh! I thought it would be cats?
I love both cats and dogs.
got a dog now.

as for the grave.
could it be the dog dug up the grave to eat the dead man.
then died?

I bet dogs and cats have been with use for more than 7000 years.

lol no it was buried with grave goods and had lived off the same foods as the people buried with it

yes I agree dogs have been with us for longer than 7000yrs!

Humans have gotten so lost in themselves that they forgot the truth that lays before them.

All these animals are earthlings. They belong here and have adapted perfectly to earth. It is us that seem alien. Just because we can build things or buy things does not make us a more advanced species.

Look into your dogs eyes and feel/know that he has a soul, he is alive, he cares just in a different way. They are earthlings. Are we?

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Yes, I know I was blessed. He tried to teach me patience, but I'm only human. He loved unconditionally, and boy did I test him. He kept me grounded.

Originally posted by leaualorin
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Thanks!
In fact I don't even know what race it is exactly...
My sister asked me "crying" to take care of him because she was going to have a baby!
So , dog+baby DO NOT MATCH...

At least this is how is done around our family!

well he's a boarder collie and my girl is 17yrs old so they can be long lived!!! I had a baby 2yrs ago and my old collie has been a star with her, no issues at all Collies are great fun!!

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Humans have gotten so lost in themselves that they forgot the truth that lays before them.

All these animals are earthlings. They belong here and have adapted perfectly to earth. It is us that seem alien. Just because we can build things or buy things does not make us a more advanced species.

Look into your dogs eyes and feel/know that he has a soul, he is alive, he cares just in a different way.

totally agree, Ive even seen dogs get embarrassed!

The connection goes back substantially farther than that.

It is widely held that the domestication of dogs occured 50 000 years ago. At that time we humans were well beyond the animal stage and were progressing nicely down the path of civilization.

There is an episode of NOVA however that presents different information (I couldn't find it on YouTube, and although listed on TV-Links it was unavailable). According to the evidence presented by researchers, dogs may have been domesticated 100 000 years ago.

The evidence is based on mitochondrial DNA within the cells. Passed from mother to offspring, M-DNA mutates at a predictable rate each generation so it can be used to estimate how many generations seperate two samples.

At an age of 100 000 years, dogs have an impact on our evolution; Thier domestication becomes one of our earliest technologies.

Having dogs meant that sentries didn't need to be posted at night to protect against predators. Likewise, not only would dogs help in hunting, but they would free up more hunters by providing security for the women, children and elderly left behind.

The researchers also suggest that the development of language may have received a 'bump' as well.

Although I personally am a cat person, I always had dogs in the home while growing up and I look forward to having property so I can have a dog again (not fair to the animal in an apt). The dog is a truely a remarkable animal whose impact on human culture is impossible to overstate.