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well this might might not help members.westnet.com.au... Latest orbit update indicates that the comet will pass perihelion on September 10, 2011 at a distance of 0.48 AU, later encountering the Earth on October 17 at 0.23 AU. i hope that works for you.
C/2010 X1 Elenin The Great Binocular Comet of 2011 ? Closest to Sun on 10 Sep 2011 at 0.48AU Closest to Earth on 17 Oct 2011 at 0.23AU Maximum magnitude ?3-4 in Sep-Oct 2011 Left: Image of comet 2010 X1 Elenin. Right: Guide V8 software showing position of comet. 2011 Jan 28.5UT 15x10 second exposures. C11 SCT and starlight express CCD. current magnitude about 17.5-18.0 Fuzzy patch below centre is a galaxy! A Russian amateur astronomer, Leonid Elenin of Lyubertsy near Moscow, discovered a 19th magnitude comet on December 10, 2010 using a remotely controlled telescope situated in New Mexico, USA . Latest orbit update indicates that the comet will pass perihelion on September 10, 2011 at a distance of 0.48 AU, later encountering the Earth on October 17 at 0.23 AU. The observing circumstances from Earth's perspective are highly favourable as comets are concerned. The close passage to the Sun and later close encounter with Earth are important factors in producing bright comets, especially if the solar encounter causes disruption to the nucleus, releasing dust particles. What is also interesting about this comet is that its inclination is only 1.8 degrees from Earths orbit. We will observe the comet edge-on throughout the apparition, enhancing the dust tail and trail, should the comet be dust rich. Maximum brightness at this stage is difficult to predict, but may appear visible to the unaided eye at 4th magnitude, when well situated in the evening sky for Southern hemisphere observers during early September 2011. By mid September, it continues to brighten but is lost to evening twilight. By late September, it passes 2 degrees from the Sun and should be visible through the SOHO C3 coronagraph (between Sep 23 and 29), and STEREO A&B spacecraft. A maximum phase angle of 177 degrees is reached around September 26. Dust is very efficient at forward scattering of sunlight. A surge of 2 magnitudes is possible if the comet is dust rich. However, the comet is not expected to be observable from the ground and and any attempts to do so will be very risky! During early October, comet Elenin reappears in dawn skies for Northern hemisphere observers. Southerners need to wait until mid-October before the comet is sufficiently high enough for observation, but moonlight will interfere until October 23rd.
A surge of 2 magnitudes is possible if the comet is dust rich. However, the comet is not expected to be observable from the ground and and any attempts to do so will be very risky!
3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
It is called Elenin since it was discovered by Leonid Elenin. I expect the internet to soon be ringing with rumors and news bytes about this comet. For now, there isn’t much to say so I’m sharing what I’ve received in private from an astronomer at a big observatory that shall remain anonymous for the moment. He says:
1. It is too early to accurately predict the future path – it’s orbital parameters haven’t been revised.
2. Among the observable hyperbolic and parabolic comets (those that come from the Oort cloud) this one has the smallest perihelion distance and the smallest inclination to the ecliptic plane.
3. Comet Elenin’s orbit may be unstable as it may encounter some dark bodies, for example, in the asteroid belt or even some Taurid objects. What would happen in those cases is a matter of luck.
4. This comet may carry a significant amount of material with it and if it follows the currently projected orbit, the Earth may very well pass through this material.
5. If Elenin is anything like what Victor Clube or James McCanney describes, we might be in for some surprises – good or bad, who knows? When this was first discovered in December last year it was calculated that it would pass 8.8 Au (8.8 times the distance of the Sun from us) away. Now today the orbital calculation is down to 0.24 Au with a minimum as low as 0.15. This is being re-calculated all the time and could get even closer but it depends what it encounters with the Taurid meteor belt (See image below). The Moon is 0.00256 Au from us to give you a comparison.
THE JOURNEY AND REPLY BY GRINGO
Dialogue between factors on elenine ..and YU55 ASTEROID(which is coming between earth and moon)Original comment by gringo on slingshot of asteroid
And rhetoric response
Threat two Asteroid yu55 travelling at 34,672 mph is coming to within 149,000 miles from earth and close to moons orbit,which could slingshot it around the moon as like the apollo spacecraft to direct hit earth on the 9th of november. www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Phage reply to post by gringoboyApollo 10 did not "slingshot" around the Moon. It orbited the Moon for 2 and half days before firing its rocket to leave lunar orbit and return to Earth.
and then quote un quote reply by gringo,link to !spaceflight.nasa.gov...
and then there was light.
Originally posted by Phage reply to post by kalengaYes. Apollo 13 did follow a slingshot trajectory. Apollo 10 did not, contrary to what was claimed.
This is a slingshot reply by gringo!
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Sorry and these ones dished to the bearded philosophers corner,myself and another member .Enjoy the REVELATION.and so there was LIGHTwww.abovetopsecret.com...
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That completes the journey,what a ride !it was a blast !
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enjoy.edit on 4-3-2011 by gringoboy because: (no reason given)
The latest news about comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin). At the moment the comet’s orbit has been calculated well enough that there will be no serious changes. The comet remains in a hyperbolic orbit with e = 1.0006. Perihelion, at a distance of 0.48114 a.u. (+/- 0.0006), will be September 10, 2011. Closest approach to the Earth will be October 16th (Δ = 0.24 а.u.). It is interesting that July 31st – August 1st the comet will come close to “STEREO-B” spacecraft , with a distance of only 7 million km (0.047 a.u.). Unfortunately the comet will not be visible in the field of view of this spacecraft; the comet will pass below it, but it is entirely possible that STEREO B will pass through the comet’s tail. At the moment of maximum brightness, which for a short period of time may exceed mag. 0, the comet will be visible in images from the coronagraph of another spacecraft oberving the Sun – “SOHO“.
Search of rapproachements was spent on an interval from February, 18th till June, 18th, 2011, by means of program complex ArtemisSIMULATOR. Specifications of distances of rapproachement have been lead in the program the EPOS. 4 rapproachements have been as a result revealed: - On February, 28th with an asteroid 1999 TV67, a distance of 1 774 707 km (0.012 а.е.); - On April, 7th with an asteroid 4336 Jasniewicz, a distance of 1 119 713 km (0.008 а.е.); - On April, 19th with an asteroid 2009 TJ9, a distance of 325 428 km (0.002 а.е.); - On May, 20th with an asteroid 1999 RQ176, a distance of 338 403 km (0.002 а.е.) Special interest is represented with last two flights, астроиды will pass through dense enough dust tail of a comet. Probably we will manage to finish shooting the given rapproachements by means of large telescopes. To reveal influence of gravitational indignation of a comet on an asteroid, by means of ground optical supervision, unfortunately it will not be possible.
C/2010 X1 – яркая комета 2011 года 19.12.2010 | Автор: LeonidOS LASCO SOHO Исходя из новых наблюденl 0;й кометы C/2010 X1 (Elenin), Центр Малых Планет (Minor Planet Center, MPC) опубликоk 4;ал новые параметрm 9; ее орбиты. Произошлl 0; кардиналn 0;ные изменениn 3;, вместо перигелиn 3; вблизи орбиты Юпитера, комета должна долететь до афелия орбиты Меркурия! Конечно новая комета не относитсn 3; к классу скребущиm 3; комет, но все же она будет видна на снимках с короногрk 2;фа, установлk 7;нного на космичесl 2;ой обсерватl 6;рии «SOHO». C/2010 X1 сблизитсn 3; с орбитой Земли на 0.03 а.е. (4.5 млн. км, но от самой планеты, комета пройдет на значителn 0;ном расстоянl 0;и ~0.4 а.е., не представl 3;яя для нас с вами никакой угрозы. Комета будет наращиваm 0;ь свой блеск, в августе 2011 года он должен составитn 0; 6-8m. В конце месяца и на протяженl 0;и всего сентября комета скроется от земных наблюдатk 7;лей в лучах Солнца, но должна быть отлично видна на снимках с космичесl 2;их короногрk 2;фов. В этот момент блеск кометы станет максималn 0;ным – около 3-4m (хотя при проходе на таком близком расстоянl 0;и от Солнца, от кометы можно ожидать чего угодно. Кстати, именно в это время комета опять будет в тех же экваториk 2;льных координаm 0;ах, где была найдена в декабре 2010 года. Начиная с октября, комета вновь станет доступна для наблюденl 0;я с Земли, в этот время ее блеск может составитn 0; 4-5m, т.е. комета будет видна невооружk 7;нным взглядом вдали от крупных городов. Условия видимостl 0; из северных широт будут благоприn 3;тными – хвостатаn 3; гостья будет подниматn 0;ся на северном небе. Все дальнейшk 7;е время C/2010 X1 будет медленно терять свой блеск и уходить от Земли. К началу 2012 года ее блеск должен быть в диапазонk 7; 11-12m. Орбита кометы продолжаk 7;т уточнятсn 3;, это лишь примерныl 1; ход событий, хотя я думаю что каких либо существеl 5;ных изменениl 1; в параметрk 2;х ее орбиты уже не будет. От кометы вошедшей внутрь орбиты Земли можно ожидать чего угодно, это шоу нам и предстоиm 0; увидеть в следующеl 4; году! C/2010 X1 - a bright comet of 2011 19.12.2010 | the Author: LeonidOS LASCO SOHO Proceeding from new supervision of comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin), the Center of Minor planets (Minor Planet Center, MPC) has published new parameters of its orbit. There were cardinal changes, instead of перигелиn 3; near to an orbit of the Floodlight, the comet should reach up to афелия orbits Меркурия! Certainly the new comet does not concern to a class скребущиm 3; comets, but nevertheless it will be visible in pictures with короногрk 2;фа, established on a space observatory "SOHO".
over on GLP a poster called Jeff has a post ongoing discussing a team of Russian Astronomers tracking this comet through the Kuiper Belt. A lot of data I have no idea how to translate but perhaps our disinfo agents could probably prove black is white with it.
Comet Encke was traveling within the orbit of Mercury when a CME scrunched the tail and eventually tore it off the comet. Scientists at the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) made the observations using the Heliospheric Imager (HI) in NRL's Sun Earth Connection Coronal and Heliospheric Investigation (SECCHI) telescope suite aboard NASA's Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory (STEREO)-A spacecraft.
Originally posted by kalenga
So you see the dilemma of how you can get caught out when you 'forget' you are using the garbage sources in your research as well???
CASE CLOSED please move on and check your facts before you blow your trumpet again.
Taste of your own medicine springs to mind!
Originally posted by kalenga
reply to post by Phage
Nit picking, it is just your style. You try and argue black is white, no apology to the writer, just hit them and run.
You will never get constructive conversation if you carry on like this? I go on these threads to be informed, not to be attacked with a schoolboy bully?
I always just pass your posts as a lot of the times you are inaccurate but I am just fed up of your nonchalant attitude to peeps on here innocently passing their time trying to learn more.
Did your teachers shout and through insults at you as you were trying to understand a concept?
Well, that is what you do very well. I am hoping a character like Michio Kaku comes on here and blinds you away with science way above your intelligence level?
Any takers, please, please????
Originally posted by kalenga
reply to post by Phage
Nit picking, it is just your style. You try and argue black is white, no apology to the writer, just hit them and run.
You will never get constructive conversation if you carry on like this? I go on these threads to be informed, not to be attacked with a schoolboy bully?
I always just pass your posts as a lot of the times you are inaccurate but I am just fed up of your nonchalant attitude to peeps on here innocently passing their time trying to learn more.
Did your teachers shout and through insults at you as you were trying to understand a concept?
Well, that is what you do very well. I am hoping a character like Michio Kaku comes on here and blinds you away with science way above your intelligence level?
Any takers, please, please????
Recently, one of the country's most popular science and technology websites, Wired.com, outlined a serious challenge to a key tenet of modern cosmology. Reporter David McCandless authored the article, "They Sing the Comet Electric", which noted the successful predictions registered at the Thunderbolts.info website prior to the climax of NASA's Deep Impact mission -- the collision of an 820-pound projectile into Comet Tempel 1. These predictions were based on the belief that comets are electrically charged bodies, and not the "dirty snowballs" of popular theory. If comets are proven to be electrical in nature, this could force the most dramatic re-assessment of cosmological theory since the age of Copernicus and Galileo. McCandless displayed an even-handedness and candor rarely seen in popular media. Most journalists, perhaps afraid of falling out of NASA's good graces, are far less likely to think independently, and tend to accept official statements from mainstream theorists as unquestioned truth (see CNN's space "coverage" for a prime example of this). Not so with McCandless, who thoroughly investigated the Deep Impact event, and imparted the facts in a fair and balanced light. McCandless wrote: "Prior to the July 4 impact, the Electric Universe group published a detailed chain of events they expected to see when Deep Impact struck comet Tempel 1... "The prediction said there would be two impact flashes: a small flash as the projectile penetrated the comet's electrified atmosphere, followed by a huge impact flash that would be 'unexpectedly energetic'. And that's exactly what appeared to happen on July 4, in an impact that astonished NASA investigators."
Phew this is crazy the information is there that nasa scientists observed more dynamic energy than should be expected.This is definetly a disinfo agenda going on here.Shame really if the comet has electromagnetic properties then it will be perturbed like a magnet with whatever polarities the sun throws at it,and if they are highly charged negative particles the perturbelance will be lesser I.e opposites attract.+ to - whereas greater - to - polarirties repels and finally explains why comets behave so odd ,like diving into the sun ,or changing direction quickly. !Hence the concern about solar cme activity.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by daz__
over on GLP a poster called Jeff has a post ongoing discussing a team of Russian Astronomers tracking this comet through the Kuiper Belt. A lot of data I have no idea how to translate but perhaps our disinfo agents could probably prove black is white with it.
The Kuiper belt? That doesn't make any sense. The Kuiper belt extends from the orbit of Neptune to 55AU. Elenin was not discovered until it was well inside the orbit of Jupiter.
Originally posted by Phage
Originally posted by kalenga
So you see the dilemma of how you can get caught out when you 'forget' you are using the garbage sources in your research as well???
CASE CLOSED please move on and check your facts before you blow your trumpet again.
Taste of your own medicine springs to mind!
That is a lie. I did not say the NASA link was garbage. He did not post the NASA link until the post in which he admitted the previous links were garbage. I then addressed his claims about the NASA link.
These are the garbage links.
tmgnow.com...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...