This Can't Be A Coincidence! Denver Airport Close Encounters Connection

reply to post by zorgon

Originally posted by zorgon

A coincidence is the occurring of an event in conjunction with any some conditions, e.g. another event. As such, a coincidence occurs when something uncanny, accidental and unexpected happens under conditions named, but not under a defined relationship.

You are correct, but this is not what has happened in this case. Everyone in this thread, including the OP who got this information from another forum, has been mislead. It is not uncanny, accidental, or unexpected. We have been told how to input the coordinates in order to reach this goal. A majority of the people who agree with this "coincidence", would not have used only the apostrophe/tick marks. There is no logical reason to manipulate the coordinates in this manner without being told to do so.

If everyone had come to the conclusion, on their own, to enter these particular numbers into Google Earth, they would not have entered them in this particular way. Most would have either entered them with the correct symbols in the correct locations within the coordinates, or they would have entered the numbers with no symbols at all.

W104 44 30 N40 36 10 - W 104° 44' 30" N 40° 36' 10" These would be the most common way that these numbers would be entered into Google Earth.

W104' 44' 30' N40' 36' 10' - We are entering the coordinates in this style, because this is the way that we were told to do so. Due to this factor, it is not a coincidence at all.

reply to post by Aggie Man


There is a place here in Colorado, up in the hills that looks exactly like devils tower I even have pictures of it that I should upload. I live up around Airport Blvd which takes you to the airport. Yes I can see the Airport from here and yes I have seen some unexplainable stuff like four airplane lights coming in evenly spaced and then they went straight down as in vertical and disappeared out of sight. Yes I have seen objects travel straight up from there, and yes there seems to be more shooting and falling stars in this area than normal, but of course you have to be awke early in the morning to see such things. Plus I am crazy anyway so do not listen to me.
No one will believe any of you because I was talking to this lady about the last days and she told me that all she was thinking about is will she loose fifty pounds this year and that pretty much ended the conversation because I could see no way in hell that she could ever loose fifty pounds, seeing how she was cooking a steak dinner.
And thats the truth Ruth.

Hello all,

just want to clarify that I am responsible for this connection between the movie and google earth. I have also stated that i didn't know if i was entering in the coords in the correct manner as i am not that technical with google earth or using lat and long coords. you can see my original post on this at

rabbithole2.com...

again it is strange that google earth takes you to the location it does when entered the way i told people to but when i originally did it myself i wasn't sure on how to enter the coords to be exact and i never entered them the way they are in the movie until later.

this has started to get alot of attention from numerous sites. but i keep asking myself why it brings you there and why is google earth off by 50-60 miles. i can only think it is because of entering it wrong and not using the correct markings of degree minutes and seconds.

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
You are correct, but this is not what has happened in this case. Everyone in this thread, including the OP who got this information from another forum, has been mislead. It is not uncanny, accidental, or unexpected.

Originally posted by Foolmetwice
Hello all,
just want to clarify that I am responsible for this connection between the movie and google earth. I have also stated that i didn't know if i was entering in the coords in the correct manner as i am not that technical with google earth or using lat and long coords. you can see my original post on this at

Sounds like an uncanny,unexpected accident to me..

reply to post by Signals

I,saw this on tv,with that jessy vant,guy..............he was a wrestler then a gov............very interesting,might be true

reply to post by venusstarlite


YES!!! Indeed, very interesting:

I,saw this on tv,with that jessy vant,guy..............he was a wrestler then a gov...

Thank you, for that information. Clears a lot of things up, regarding the potential provenance of this hoax.

Personally, I can't stand more than five seconds listening to that buffoon (Ventura), so haven't seen any complete episodes of his latest crap, just snippets...and certainly not all of his episodes. (I presume it was that "conspiracy" TV series he did recently, where you saw this mentioned about Denver Airport?).

SO....if, indeed, this was shown on TV to an audience numbering in the hundreds (joking....of course, he probably has thousands of viewers...LOL!) then little wonder it went viral!!!

Smoking gun evidence, if ever I saw any, clear as day.....because, not only did this member say he/she saw it on TV....everyone knows that a program like that is produced well ahead of time, before being aired. Plenty of lead time to set it up.....

"Curiouser and curiouser....."

I guess I have to change my mind about who may really be behind this fraud....and if my suspicions are confirmed, how deceptive....to (allegedly) manufacture a "conspiracy" just for his crap TV show!!!

Originally posted by weedwhacker
I guess I have to change my mind about who may really be behind this fraud....if so, how deceptive....to (allegedly) manufacture a "conspiracy" just for his crap TV show!!!

OR..

you could look three posts above yours and see the person's post who started this. Might save us another WW rant on his pet peeves

reply to post by zorgon


Oh, I read the new member foolmetwice's post (welcome to him/her, BTW). What we have there is merely the same person who put it up on the "rabbithole" site, which is the same place linked by the OP of this thread.

Wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...... LOL!

This began, as I am beginning to suspect, long before that was posted up....

Originally posted by weedwhacker What we have there is merely the same person who put it up on the "rabbithole" site, which is the same place linked by the OP of this thread.

Yup that is what he said... he also said it was HIS mistake that caused the fuss... which makes it all a big COINCIDENCE...

Fortunately for us conspiracy nuts it is a serendipitous coincidence

The Universe is run on numbers... your life is by the numbers, whether or not you believe it So to some of us numbers matter

What I find hilarious, is that the two sides fighting back forth haven't even taken the time to realize that, regardless of who is right... Ft. Collins or DIA camp... this is a mathematical anonomly when you consider it's a mere 65 miles apart - on a cosmic/geographic (worldly) scale.

From how far away did the coordinates come?
How long ago were they recorded?
What sort of geophyscal events have occurred that would cause a 65 mile discrepency between one and the other (earthquakes, continental drift, etc)

I'm gonna hafta say close enough on this one.

An interesting idea, anway - thanks for the thought provoking thread, OP. Now stop bitching about 'thread quality' being indicated by Star and Flags and enjoy the content for what it is: well thought out coincidence worth some additional consideration. S&F for THAT!

reply to post by futureworldz


I was just sitting in the parking lot in my partners car talking and sippin on a beverage when I saw these two bright stars that were equally parallel to each other and then I noticed they were slowly moving towards the airport and then the one in front disappeared and then the one in back disappeared also. I then looked at my friend and said " did you see what I saw "? and he said " Yea " and I said so now you know I am not crazy right "? and he said " Well you are still crazy but I did see what you saw ". Also the one in back was so bright that at first I thought it was a planet which is why I was looking at it in the first place.
I say it was about 7:00 pm Mnt time Feb 27th, 2011 and this is for real, I see something every week but most of the time I think I am crazy.

I assure everyone I was not setting up a hoax nor do i know how to manipulate google earth that well. I assumed I was entering the coords in correctly as that is how I have entered in coords before to look up things. I was originally trying to view Devil's Tower from GE and low and behold the movie lied to me . i still found it though.

also that is not the only geographic error made in the movie, almost every coded reference made by the flight controllers in the beginning of the movie are off. some are of by 1000 miles.

one thing im wondering is if i didnt enter the coords correctly, why is it that it brought me to a location? if it is by point of interest why wouldnt have been ft collins? any other time i have mis entered coords it tells me i made an error. i have never used the minutes and second marks before and has brought me to the correct location.

reply to post by Foolmetwice


Big fan of the movie, but never thought to look this up before:

...also that is not the only geographic error made in the movie, almost every coded reference made by the flight controllers in the beginning of the movie are ...

Only wrong reference I heard is to Restricted Area R-2508. That is in the Mojave Desert, associated with and North of Edwards AFB. So, it is in the Los Angeles ARTCC jurisdiction. That scene, and the farmhouse scene, is set in the Midwest, and the controllers "pretend" they are at Indianapolis Center (those are, I believe, real ATC personnel, or some are)....and I assume it was filmed in the Los Angeles ARTCC facility, (In Lancaster, California) "doubling" for Indy. Who in the audience would know the difference?? So, the mistake was the guy mentioning that Restricted Area, since he was probably just so used to it, being in his area and all.....

....ahhhh, Hollywood magic!! LOL!

Restricted Area R-2508

The scene in question:



Except for minor errors (a few on the radar screen itself....continuity) it is one of the most realistic and accurate "aviation-related" scenes done by Hollywood. Kudos to Spielberg for that...and, no...still don't see any conspiracy, sorry.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.....and a movie is just a movie....

here is a list from imdb. www.imdb.com... there are quite a few

here is a test for you ww, enter this into GE the way i have it E104' 44' 30' N44' 36' 10' then do it the correct way and tell me your results.

edit: more than just minor errors


2nd edit: forgot spaces in coords

reply to post by Foolmetwice


OK...copying exactly from your post:

E104' 44' 30' N44' 36'

Took me to a high altitude view of Western Africa. (Note, that, except for the fact of 'E' being substituted for 'W', the numbers and notations (the apostrophes) are identical to the OP).

However, by formatting properly --- E104 44'30" N44 36'10"

THAT is to a very remote middle of nowhere....in Mongolia.


I DID find something intriguing, though.....using those same numbers, but reversing the [ ' ] and the [ " ] symbols, to make it: E104 44"30' N44 36"10' gives the same result as the first time!!

And, as before, with the view of the bulge of Western Africa, the box on the left has a menu of different business listings to choose from.

Oh, and the Imdb list of goofs? Saw it already. I was talking only about that one scene you mentioned, in the ARTCC, and the clip I posted. Know about those others, from other scenes.......

yes i forgot the spaces in the apostrohpe one but yes to africa. im just wondering why when i put them in as i did for it to show me DIA when i thought it was going to take me to devils tower.

Just for the heck of it I tried it on android Google earth on my phone and got my mark on the Altura CO farm house with either formatting. Back on the computer without the apostrophes I get the Altura farm, with them I get DIA. I am going to try and fly back to CO and visit this spring before I move back there this summer. If I can I am going to spend some time walking around checking the GPS on my phone to see if it is close or not.

reply to post by Signals
Interesting debate.
Are apostrophes the only thing that puts this OP in question?
I also wanted to add that 21 minutes before this thread started I made my introduction to ATS opening post in the Introduction forum. In it I specifically mentioned "Close Encounter of the Third Kind" and thought the timing was noteworthy. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Kudos to Spielberg for that...and, no...still don't see any conspiracy, sorry.

I don't think you would see one if it bit you om the butt

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.....and a movie is just a movie....

how about this one? Cigar or Movie?

I have experience in research and when it comes to evaluating data you can look at it in multiple ways and formats including culture, religion, politics, etc. I think there may be some relevance here, but it requires manipulation of the data, which by no means goes against the wiles of the Elite. Maybe there are more clues within the scene or the movie that we are not privy to as the common population. I am intrigued enough to continue to monitor the ongoing discussion here.

One thing I did find interesting, but may be completely irrelevant, is the historical seismic activity surrounding DIA. On Google Earth in the flyouts to the left of the screen you can activate an earthquake record under Layers and expanding the + at Gallery. There was quite a bit of significant seismic activity in the 1960's around the North Denver area. But what intrigues me is that most of the earthquakes occurred randomly whereas there is a perfect rectangle surrounding DIA created by four seismic markers from activity during this same period. I wonder if these were caused by explosives during the initial construction of the underground tunnels? One marker consists of three seismic events, each occurring yearly in mid November of 1965, 1966, and 1967.

It could be nothing, but I would like to see what others think or may know regarding this.