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Originally posted by purplemer
i kinda see it different. the military in ibay is being used to bomb there own people. Taking out some military hardware to stop a genocide occuring in a country where people are demonsrating for change is not the same as occupying a country and creating as much mayhem as you can so that you can put an oil pipeine through there.
but you are right. War is war and it should not be taken lightly..
kx
Originally posted by Looking_Glass
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by bigyin
What if the protesters asked for US warplanes to come over and take out Gadaffis forces. Would that be enough ?
No.
I sure as hell wouldn't want any Venzuelan warplanes strafing American turf if rioters in Cleveland asked for it, and the same principle applies there.
I think it's ok to help out as a team in a situation such as this, then leave after the deed is done.
Edit: But only if the situation is dire and things have gotten out of control. Otherwise, we mind our business and let them deal with it themselves.edit on 22-2-2011 by Looking_Glass because: *
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
It's time for the EU and the U.S. Goverment to enact a " No Fly Zone" over the Skies of Lybia . If not done soon , the lost of futher Human lives will be a direct result of their inactions . Where is the United Nations Outrage here ? Their Silence Speaks Volumes..........
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
It's time for the EU and the U.S. Goverment to enact a " No Fly Zone" over the Skies of Lybia . If not done soon , the lost of futher Human lives will be a direct result of their inactions . Where is the United Nations Outrage here ? Their Silence Speaks Volumes..........
Originally posted by Soshh
As well as targeting protesters, pilots were ordered to attack military facilities.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by purplemer
i kinda see it different. the military in ibay is being used to bomb there own people. Taking out some military hardware to stop a genocide occuring in a country where people are demonsrating for change is not the same as occupying a country and creating as much mayhem as you can so that you can put an oil pipeine through there.
but you are right. War is war and it should not be taken lightly..
kx
TheTaliban were taking out their own people, too, yet folks screamed bloody murder upon US intervention there.
Saddam was taking out his own people, too, over and above the Kurds, he sent Mi24 HIND gunship helicopters to strafe dissident groupings, and even refuge columns. Folks screamed bloody murder at the US intervention there, too.
Seems we ought to learn something from that, and stop helping folks that ain't here. If we don't fire a single shot there, no one can accuse us of killing off Libyan civilians or kids.
I agree, war should never be taken lightly or entered upon frivolously.
All those who scream at the US for going after the Taliban and al Qaida, but who now think for some odd reason we should embark on a Libyan campaign and open ourselves to more of the same charges, are more than welcome to exercise the individual pursuit of foreign policy upon their own terms, and have at Khadafi on their own.
Inevitably, if the US goes in there to assist, there will immediately follow charges that we are killing off civilians for Libyan Oil, which makes as much sense as saying that we are killing Iraqi civilians for Iraqi oil - which is to say, none. Those civilians don't control that oil, so where's the connect? In neither case does it make any sense, but the charges are inevitable if we muck about in Libya, same as they came about in Iraq and Afghanistan - which doesn't even HAVE any oil. Folks had to shift the claim there to some sort of "oil pipeline" to cover for the lack of oil.
I note that nowhere do I see an oil pipeline there, either - even after 10 years.
So, as I've said dozens of times at ATS now, I'm all for letting the rest of the world fend for themselves, and it starts right here, right now, with the current brushfires in the middle east.
I'm tired of hearing the accusations, and don't care to produce any fresh ones.