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Originally posted by cluckerspud
Get out for some fresh air. I mean it.
Seriously.
Originally posted by TheUnderCoverEd
reply to post by pianopraze
Eugenics is not about killing us, eugenics is about modifying genome so that it can be augmented or diminished. In any case you get results that are not good for anyone.
Originally posted by Beyond Creation
What confuses me is how these puppets and the music industry in general are guilty of encouraging pre-teens to be engaged in sexual practices, promiscuous at that, yet in the same gesture showing intent of population control.
Which is it?
Commendable effort btw OP.
Originally posted by madscientistintraining
if gaga coming out of an egg lookign like a reptilian with makeup didn't get the alarm bells ringing nothing will.
also I thought we won ww2, I guess we we're wrong.
Originally posted by NadaCambia
Overpopulation is not a myth. And you're reaching.
Really makes me laugh when people think these illiterate "musicians" are part of some big illuminati secret.
Your reasoning is illogical and bordering on lunacy.
Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws ~ Confucius
Originally posted by NadaCambia
All that shows is that Musicians and Directors play the public. It's cheap advertising and a way to stay relevant.
People used to say the same things about Marilyn Manson, who Lady Gaga is pretty much copying.
She could say in her song that she is the illuminati, outright say it, it would mean nothing. Not to any reasonable person.
Originally posted by zroth
S&F for the details on real world issues.
As far as the video, I hate to burst your bubble.
The storyboard for the video was probably created by a creative arts/media student that works on the team of the director that was hired to shoot the video.
Symbolism is one way an artist can voice their beliefs through the video medium.
At best, the kid that came up with the concept is using the NWO theories to push forward his/her own career.
Originally posted by ghaleon12
Did Britney Spears, or any other famous singer, get this sort of conspiracy twist? I'm actually curious, I don't remember Britney Spears videos being scrutinized in such a way. Is this sort of thing new to music videos and the music industry, or has it been around for a while?
Originally posted by KatieVA
In all fairness, this is a conspiracy theory orientated website. It annoys the tits off me when I see people get rude and sarcastic at someone for presenting and discussing a conspiracy theory. You may find the ideas the OP has presented here ridiculous, but at least say it with some manners and respect!
Originally posted by budaruskie
Personally, I like Gaga. I think she is an extension of a character that was previously played by Marilyn Manson, and possibly David Bowie or Alice Cooper before him. I don't own any of her music, but I like the fact that she does obviously use so much symbolism to express her "art". I'm a huge Manson fan and you don't have to look any further than the album Holywood to understand the depth of his lyrics. Say what you will, but I think they are actually fighting the good fight.
"In many ways rampant population growth is an even more dangerous and subtle threat to the world than nuclear war. The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential."
"There are only two ways of preventing a world with 10 billion inhabitants. Either the birth rate drops or the death rate will rise.
There is no other way."
There are, of course, many ways to make the death rate increase. In the thermonuclear age war can take care of this very quickly and in a definite way. Famine and disease are the oldest."
Robert Mc. Namara, former U.S. Secretary of defense and former president of the World Bank, is presently a member of the board of directors of the Washington Post.
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"I have already written off more than a billion people. These people are in places in Africa, Asia, Latin America. We can't save them. The population crisis and the food supply question dictate that we should not even try.
It's a waste of time. These people will suffer from continuous cycles of natural disaster, famine, hunger, flood, drought. Some old fools and young ones may talk of trying to mount a noble effort to help these people.
But they can't be saved."
General Maxwell Taylor is the former commander-in-chief of the U.S. forces during the Vietnam war, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President John Kennedy.
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"With the collaboration of Unesco and other institutions, including education ministries, we must develop...youth apprenticeship programs..to foster mistrust of the physical science, humility of the human conditions, and the hatred of the nation-state--among other things--for those intellectual attitudes are the premises to comprehend the grave problems of demographical explosion and resource limitations."
Aurelio Peccei, chairman of the Club of Rome, in his released book, Hundred pages for the Future.
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"There is a single theme behind all our work-we must reduce population levels," said Thomas Ferguson, the Latin American case officer for the State Department's Office of Population Affairs (OPA). "Either they [governments] do it our way, through nice clean methods or they will get the kind of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran, or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it "The professionals," said Ferguson, "aren't interested in lowering population for humanitarian reasons. That sounds nice. We look at resources and environmental constraints. We look at our strategic needs, and we say that this country must lower its population-or else we will have trouble.
Civil wars are somewhat drawn-out ways to reduce population, the OPA official added. "The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa or through disease like the Black Death," all of which might occur in El Salvador. Ferguson's OPA monitors populations in the Third World and maps strategies to reduce them. Its budget for FY 1980 was $190 million; for FY 198l, it will be $220 million. The Global 2000 report calls for doubling that figure. The sphere of Kissinger In 1975, OPA was brought under a reorganized State Department Bureau of Oceans, International Environmental, and Scientific Affairs-- a body created by Henry Kissinger.
The agency was assigned to carry out the directives of the NSC Ad Hoc Group. According to an NSC spokesman, Kissinger initiated both groups after discussion with leaders of the Club of Rome during the 1974 population conferences in Bucharest and Rome. The Club of Rome, controlled by Europe's black nobility, is the primary promotion agency for the genocidal reduction of world population levels. The Ad Hoc Group was given "high priority" by the Carter administration, through the intervention of National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and Secretaries of State Cyrus Vance and Edmund Muskie.
The Rockefellers also were greatly interested in the eugenics movement, a program of scientifically applied genetic selection to maintain and improve "ideal" human characteristics, including birth and population control. This idea grew from the writings of the Victorian scientist Sir Francis Galton, who after study reached the conclusion that prominent members of British society were such because they had "eminent" parents, thus combining Darwin’s concepts of "survival of the fittest" with the class-conscious question "who’s your daddy?"
If this sounds like a Nazi experiment run wild, consider that in the late nineteenth century, the United States joined fourteen other nations in passing some type of eugenics legislation. Thirty states had laws providing for the sterilization of mental patients and imbeciles. At least sixty thousand such "defectives" were legally sterilized.
Of course, to determine who was dirtying the gene pool requires extensive population statistics. So in 1910 the Eugenics Records Office was established as ë branch of the Galton National Laboratory in London, endowed by Mrs. E. H. Harriman, wife of railroad magnate Edward Harriman and mother of diplomat Averell Harriman. Mrs. Harriman in 1912 sold her substantial shares of New York’s Guaranty Trust bank to J. P. Morgan, thus assuring his control over that institution.
After 1900, the Harrimans—the family that gave the Prescott Bush family its start—along with the Rockefellers funded more than $11 million to create a eugenics research laboratory at Cold Spring Harbor, New York, as well as eugenics studies at Harvard, Columbia, and Cornell. The first International Congress of Eugenics was convened in London in 1912, with Winston Churchill as a director. Obviously, the concept of "bloodlines" was highly significant to these people.
In 1932 when the Congress met in New York, it was the Hamburg-Amerika Shipping Line, controlled by Harriman associates George Walker and Prescott Bush, that brought prominent Germans to the meeting. One was Dr. Ernst Rudin of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Genealogy and Demography in Berlin. Rudin was unanimously elected president of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies for his work in founding the German Society for Race Hygiene, a forerunner of Hitler’s racial institutes.
Eugenics work, under more politically correct names, continues right up to today. General William H. Draper Jr. was a "Supporting Member" of the International Eugenics Congress in 1932 and, despite or because of his ties to the Harriman and Bush families, was named head of the Economic Division of the U.S. Control Commission in Germany at the end of hostilities. According to authors Tarpley and Chaikin,
"General Draper (in later years) founded ’Population Crisis Committee’ and the ’Draper Fund,’ joining with the Rockefeller and Du Pont families to promote eugenics as ’population control.’ The administration of President Lyndon Johnson, advised by General Draper on the subject, began financing birth control in the tropical countries through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).
"General Draper was George Bush’s guru on the population question. . . . Draper’s son and heir, William H. Draper III, was co-chairman for finance—chief of fundraising—of the Bush-for-President national campaign organization in 1980."
The younger Draper went on to work with population control activities of the United Nations.
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There is compelling evidence that the United Nations collaborated in the forced sterilization of poor, rural women in Peru from 1995 to 1997. But mud from the scandal is clinging only to the United States.
As the U.N. continues to pose as the conscience and watchdog of the globe, the U.S. is being battered for taking the proper position: namely, reducing its role in global family planning ventures.
The controversy revolves around Peru's National Program for Family Planning, which received funding from both the United Nations Population Fund and U.S. Agency for International Development. The Program included a campaign entitled Voluntary Surgical Contraception -- that is, sterilization. An estimated 100,000 to 300,000 people, mostly women, were sterilized.
UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds
BY LIFESITENEWS.COM
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:15 ESTComments (0)
KADUNA, Nigeria, March 11, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A UNICEF campaign to vaccinate Nigeria’s youth against polio may have been a front for sterilizing the nation. Dr. Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of the Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis. Using WHO-recommended technologies like Gas Chromatography (GC) and Radio-Immuno assay, Dr. Kaita, upon analysis, found evidence of serious contamination. “Some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic; some have direct effects on the human reproductive system,” he said in an interview with Kaduna’s Weekly Trust. “I and some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the Lab could not believe the discovery,” he said. A Nigerian government doctor tried to persuade Dr. Kaita that the contaminants would have no bearing on human reproduction. “…I was surprised when one of the federal government doctors was telling me something contrary to what I have learned, studied, taught and is the common knowledge of all pharmaceutical scientists
Let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. That's back from high school algebra. But let's, let's take a look. First we've got population...
Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services... we could lower that by perhaps ten or fifteen percent.
Originally posted by cluckerspud
Get out for some fresh air. I mean it.
Seriously.
And I'm still not convinced.
The harmonization of laws, regulations and standards between and among trading partners requires intense, complex, time-consuming negotiations...Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the freetrade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions. www.cfsan.fda.gov...
President Bill Clinton,... publicly apologized last month for forcing Haiti to drop tariffs [as result of WTO] on imported, subsidized US rice during his time in office.The policy wiped out Haitian rice farming and seriously damaged Haiti’s ability to be self-sufficient. www.democracynow.org...
WTO ...NAFTA, ....China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, an event which caused millions of manufacturing jobs in U.S. to be permanently lost.... that cost America 20 percent of its manufacturing jobs in just 14 years....
Sperling also played a major role in repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial and investment banking. Many observers credit the act’s repeal with causing the financial crisis that brought the economy to its knees.
Originally posted by madscientistintraining
I happen to know a fair peice about the music business, like I said, if you don't get it you never will.
I could also point to rhianna's video where she writes illuminati slut on a postit note, or most of 2pac's career, or a bunch of other examples.
I don't disagree that it could be the producers rather than the artists consious support however.
ed: or muse with the whole making a triangle and putting it over his eye shouting "they will not control us" into his mic, that being more anti nwo than pro, but its yet another example.edit on 19-2-2011 by madscientistintraining because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by inthenitesky
reply to post by Skywatcher2011
I notice in one of the descriptions a reference to a Paul Ehrlich, quoting here "so they will control your mind and manipulate you to eat the food. Accomplishing Paul Ehrlich & John Holdren's plan of killing us off by using "staple foods." I noticed one of the Executuve Proucers was a Nicole Ehrlich. Is there a connection there I wonder??
Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by pianopraze
Great thread praze # the haters ! Your onto something here for real . F&S for all the effort you put in !
Praze i'd love to know your opinion on this thread ,,,,,,
www.abovetopsecret.com:80...
Only a few of us are still investigating this case and your input is valued _
Peaceedit on 20-2-2011 by Doomzilla because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by inthenitesky
I notice in one of the descriptions a reference to a Paul Ehrlich, quoting here "so they will control your mind and manipulate you to eat the food. Accomplishing Paul Ehrlich & John Holdren's plan of killing us off by using "staple foods." I noticed one of the Executuve Producers was a Nicole Ehrlich. Is there a connection there I wonder??
Researcher Jim Bennett, in a letter to Jacques Vallee dated Jan. 15, 1992, made some startling disclosures in regards to the alien situation and the Dulce, N.M. base in particular. It is my belief that even if there is a fascist-CIA cabal trying to establish a world dictatorship using the 'threat' of an alien invasion to foment world government, that the 'threat' may be real all the same.
It is also possible that the 'Bavarians' may be working with very REAL aliens in an end-game designed to establish a world government using this 'threat' as an excuse to do so, although when the world is under 'their' control the Illuminati may betray the human race by turning much of the global government control-system over to the Grey aliens [the Beast?]. The aliens may have been collaborating with the Bavarians for a very long time as part of their agenda to implement absolute electronic control over the inhabitants of planet earth.
One source, an Area 51 worker -- and member of a secret Naval Intelligence group called COM-12 -- by the name of Michael Younger, stated that the Bavarian Black Nobility [secret societies] have agreed to turn over three-quarters of the planet to the Greys if they could retain 25 percent for themselves and have access to alien mind-control technology. The aliens would assist in the abduction, programming and implanting of people throughout the world in preparation for a New World Order -- which in turn would be annexed to the alien empire. Apparently some top-echelon Bavarians have agreed to this, since they realize that they NEED the alien mind-control and implant technology in order to carry out their plans for world domination.
Originally posted by Doomzilla
Hey GS I agree with your conclusion that depopulation is the aim here . It's impossible to deny it unfortunately , its happening in the 3rd world and middle east , its us next .
My question to you is how/if can we stop this ?
Originally posted by bputman
Oh, this is the best thread I've read today. Wow, you watch one music video, from LADY GAGA, and believe it has depopulation secrets. Wow, you really need to get off ATS once in awhile and breath some fresh air.
The world is overpopulated. Don't believe me, go to a beach in China. Overpopulation also causes intense stress upon our lives. For example, too much traffic, too much waiting in line, overwork do to overpopulation, and on and on.
Please, there are 6,900,000,000 people in this world! It's overcrowded.edit on 21-2-2011 by bputman because: (no reason given)