Earthquake Swarm in Arkansas Intensifies. Memphis, Tennessee could be epicenter for the next big one

reply to post by Robin Marks
Everyone seems to think that Katrina only hit New Orleans. It was the worest hurricane to hit since the Galveston hurricane in the early 1900's. With winds up to 175 mph. But the point I was trying to make is that the US government took possesion of all the land in 9th Ward New Orleans. Like right now I am looking at the AR, news radar. Still raining right over BeeBe and Greenbrier area. This is off the subject, and right now there is more to worry about with all this rain today.

The Seizing of Property after disasters.

Despite these flaws with the policy, New Orleans will begin seizing not just houses from devastated communities_but also the hopes of thousands residents of returning home_on the anniversary of our nation's greatest tragedy. City Ordinance 26031 is proof that the interests and human rights of the now-disenfranchised displaced victims of the storm are no longer respected in their former communities or by the federal government

storm had moved inland.[4] Eventually 80% of the city and large tracts of neighboring parishes became flooded, and the floodwaters lingered for weeks.[4] However, the worst property damage occurred in coastal areas, such as all Mississippi beachfront towns, which were flooded over 90% in hours, as boats and casino barges rammed buildings, pushing cars and houses inland, with waters reaching 6–12 miles (10–19 km) from the beach.

en.wikipedia.org...

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Sorry, that last post wasn't even my intended argument. I wanted to say that there is no point in the corporations owning the land. They already own it. Well, one of their proxies owns it. The Federal Land Management somethingorother. The oil boys don't want to own the lands because they can lease the land. Then after they're done destroying it, they don't have to unload a toxic wasteland. They just leave it in the hands of the government. The taxpayers. You. It's your land already. They just want the mineral rites. In most places, you only own the surface, you don't own the minerals.

And let's say you're a stick in the mud and you don't want to lease your land. They just suck dry the oil from the lease they got from your neighbour. I've already posted the scene from There Will be Blood where the oilman explains how to drink all the milkshakes with a long straw.

The problem with the HAARP theory is that there is no motive.
My grandmother was a mystery. I only understood her motives after I understood her history.
She never gave me much. But that's ok. Because she got me addicted to detective novels.
When you study investigation, you learn to look for the motive. And then you follow the money.
These are the absolutes when researching. Motive is history. The money is the action.
Find how these fit together and you have your guilty party.

One more thing. Yes, it is absolutely true that we are addicted to oil and we are addicted to our gas powered automobiles. I am certain that we are not going to give up our way of life voluntarily. Nope, I don't believe we would willingly, not for a half-second. But we will have no choice at some point. Peak Oil is not a theory. It's a fact. Change will come no matter how much we want to deny this fact.

A forced change is never pleasant. An educated evolution is a much more successful endeavour. Like eating right. Ain't easy, but learn about your food, eat in a balanced way, and you'll find your healthier.

Our problem is we gamble with the future and take everything to the brink. We then gaze down into the abyss and recoil to safer ground in a mad scramble. Hell, I'm always doing this with my own existence. I wonder where I learned to do such things?

I blame television and Hollywood.

reply to post by Robin Marks


Robin I don't understand your thinking and logic at all conerning your idea that everything has to be fully understood before it is rolled out. Many people claimed when the first atom bomb was exploded many had NO real idea just what would happen. They did it anyway. This scenario is often the rule rather than the exception IMO.

We'll have to agree to disagree I guess as far as to the extent of weather modification. Studies into weather mod, go back for decades, Eastlund's patents themselves decribe the very things you seem to not be able to consider, we now have super computers coexisting with decades of testing to model just what happens in even such *relatively* diverse areas as weather, I have to feel as it has been often said the mass of humanity is often decades behind where science and technology is now able to go.

Here is another link I found interesting, though I don't accept ALL of the ideas it contains, it does have enough food for thought IMO to raise awareness:

www.itwillpass.com...

reply to post by coolottie


Yes, it was a big hurricane. But that doesn't prove HAARP was involved. No HAARP in 1900 when the another major hurricane hit.

The real damage from Katrina was partly the hurricane, and partly engineering. Failure of the levees. And the erosion damage due to human industry removed the natural barrier which allow the massive surge to travel so far inland. Humans made the hurricane damage worse. But not by a weapon. It was industry and stupid planning.

You also said that hurricanes form out in the Atlantic and rarely form in the Gulf of Mexico. I totally agree.
But this may be a sign of things to come. The reason is we have a perpetual warming Gulf of Mexico.
I was reading about the coming Hurricane Season. Forecaster are wondering about the Gulf will contribute to hurrincanes this year because the water this year are very warm. This is the emerging trend. Part of the reason that this current series of tornadoes is so energetic is that we have a warm Gulf. This warm moist air travels northward to mix with the cold fronts.

If we have a warming Gulf of Mexico, we could have more hurricanes forming over the Gulf, or intensifying as the low pressure system gain strength from the warm, evaporating waters.

And thanks to BP, the erosion along the Gulf is much worse. Lots of vegetation has died which will leave less of a buffer against the hurricanes. Damage from hurricanes will be even worse.

Who's the culprit?
The oil boys again.
See the pattern.
It's manmade for sure. It's just not HAARP.
It's industry.

reply to post by Robin Marks
Robin, What are your thoughts on this 250 tons of explosives they are putting in a pipe under the levee. That sounds like a very dumb idea. Is it strong enough to cause a quake? The pipe will even make it strong and more intense. A rain storm has just parked itself right over Conway, Beebe, Greenbrier area, with a lot more to come.


This site also has all of the River and their stages of flooding. www.semissourian.com...

With now record-setting flood stages in Cairo, Ill., Maj. Gen. Michael Walsh has ordered barges carrying 250 tons of explosives to be ready to move from Wickliffe, Ky., to the levee at Birds Point.

And Yes, you are right about the land, they pretty much own it anyway with the leases.

Originally posted by coolottie
reply to post by Robin Marks

 

Everyone seems to think that Katrina only hit New Orleans. It was the worest hurricane to hit since the Galveston hurricane in the early 1900's. With winds up to 175 mph. But the point I was trying to make is that the US government took possesion of all the land in 9th Ward New Orleans. Like right now I am looking at the AR, news radar. Still raining right over BeeBe and Greenbrier area. This is off the subject, and right now there is more to worry about with all this rain today.

The Seizing of Property after disasters.

Despite these flaws with the policy, New Orleans will begin seizing not just houses from devastated communities_but also the hopes of thousands residents of returning home_on the anniversary of our nation's greatest tragedy. City Ordinance 26031 is proof that the interests and human rights of the now-disenfranchised displaced victims of the storm are no longer respected in their former communities or by the federal government

storm had moved inland.[4] Eventually 80% of the city and large tracts of neighboring parishes became flooded, and the floodwaters lingered for weeks.[4] However, the worst property damage occurred in coastal areas, such as all Mississippi beachfront towns, which were flooded over 90% in hours, as boats and casino barges rammed buildings, pushing cars and houses inland, with waters reaching 6–12 miles (10–19 km) from the beach.

en.wikipedia.org...

Yep, the seizing of property after 'natural disasters' or the takeover and control appears IMO to be a big part of the manifesto of 'disaster capitalism'.

Blame it on 'god'. Maybe 'god' now resides in Gakona?

The latest elected official to step into the swamp was Rep. Richard H. Baker, a 10-term Republican from Baton Rouge. The Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that he was overheard telling lobbyists: "We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did."

www.washingtonpost.com...

reply to post by Tecumte
Robin and Tecumte, Checkout this Flood Map, NOAA and National Weather Service

This scares the living hell out of me. We might as well go ahead and get prepared for the Big One.



www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov...

reply to post by Tecumte


After this, I'm not going to comment on the HAARP weather machine topic again. I find nothing credible in the theory. One of the biggest problems is that placing in Alaska means they are testing the weapon in their own backyard. If they were testing a weapon system they would place it on the East Coast and screw with Europe or Africa's weather.

Your quote by the ignorant, racist, Republican polictician, only proves that he believes God is an immoral bigot like himself.

The government knew the levees wouldn't survive a Category 3 storm. They wouldn't put the money into repairing the levees because most of the affected areas were poor neighbourhoods. Not much lobbying power there. Had the rich been living beside the levees, they would have been fixed. The rich live in the nieghbourhoods that are on higher ground outside the inner city.

"George Bush hates Black People."

Officials knew that any major storm hitting New Orleans was going to cause massive damage and loss.
There is nothing mysterious about Katrina.
Nothing.

reply to post by coolottie


I agree completely. The flood and it's consequences are the most pressing matter. The scale of this disaster is growing and there are many unknowns. On the previous page I describe some possible outcomes on the faults.
I don't think the explosion is enough to cause a quake. The flood pulse is another matter altogether. That concerns me. I'm thinking of it like a glacial damburst.

Stay safe people of the Mississippi.

Originally posted by Robin Marks
reply to post by Tecumte

 

After this, I'm not going to comment on the HAARP weather machine topic again. I find nothing credible in the theory. One of the biggest problems is that placing in Alaska means they are testing the weapon in their own backyard. If they were testing a weapon system they would place it on the East Coast and screw with Europe or Africa's weather.

Your quote by the ignorant, racist, Republican polictician, only proves that he believes God is an immoral bigot like himself.

The government knew the levees wouldn't survive a Category 3 storm. They wouldn't put the money into repairing the levees because most of the affected areas were poor neighbourhoods. Not much lobbying power there. Had the rich been living beside the levees, they would have been fixed. The rich live in the nieghbourhoods that are on higher ground outside the inner city.

"George Bush hates Black People."

Officials knew that any major storm hitting New Orleans was going to cause massive damage and loss.
There is nothing mysterious about Katrina.
Nothing.

Ok, I don't have much more to add about this either for now, and I don't want to derail this earthquake thread with so much about HAARP.

I'll just add though as regrads 'disaster capitalism', there are plenty of other methods rather than *just* "HAARP -like" ionispheric heaters and scaler weapons and if you would have taken the time to read my link above you would see they are scattered all around the globe not just Gakona. And weather modification a KNOWN science can be employed by itself for any potential 'social engineering' projects, using simply what is in the known realm.

The last thing about Katrina though that I find plausible and MAYBE a clue as to if this was engineered along the lines of the aforementioned quote was that as the Rep. alluded to there was a big money interest that wanted to put up lot's of casinos and high priced condos in N.O. and they allegedly felt they couldn't do well until the public housing issue and crime was addressed, So they wanted 'god' to find a solution to the problem that stood in their way of potentially making hundreds of millions. And guess what?

I find it strange too that a good many residents claimed they heard the levees blown, just like reported in the 20's, though obviously the 'official' story was that it must just have been something else like the concrete cracking?? or etc. Now since we have been told that there is a law on the books (from the 20's) that allows levees to be destroyed and many people may feel the effects today in the middle south if this happens, maybe it's not all so strange and implausible.

I do wonder though. IF the levees are blown near New Madrid and it triggers a huge quake and we have massive destruction and FEMA comes and relocates people, would that even raise a red flag on the map of any here? Let's hope we don't have to test the hypothesis.

Originally posted by coolottie
reply to post by Tecumte

 

Robin and Tecumte, Checkout this Flood Map, NOAA and National Weather Service

This scares the living hell out of me. We might as well go ahead and get prepared for the Big One.



www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov...

I'm thinking the flooding by itself might be enough to do the job of having to relocate people and cause much loss of property, especially if a huge rain making weather cell just happens to park itself over the area for an extended time. But obviously a big quake on top of it all would be very very bad. In the map it looks like 2/3 of Arkansas might experience flooding, and St.Louis about 100 miles from where I live looks like it could have big problems as well. One does wonder how, if at all, all of the fracking that was done in central Ark, will work with the weather and water to create any additional problems. I wonder how many problems would have to happen all at the same time before the odds of 'coincidence' would seem rather slim.

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Conway, Beebe is now under a Tornado warning. Like you Everything going on in that one area is very odd.

The rain has just sat over the area for the last 3 hours and not moving.

I can't get over what I'm seeing on the radar. There is a bowing of a storm front that is heading toward toward the Guy, Conway, Vilonia area once again. I'm not a meteorologist, so I can't tell you really what to expect. But it looks like a major front will hit the area in the next hour or so. Hopefully the daytime heating is diminishing and it just rains.

I'm watching a live feed on KHTV, and they seem to be downplaying the warnings, so maybe I'm overly concerned by what I'm seeing on the radar.

With the flooding down there near New Madrid as of now, when is supposed to be that drill that was going to held, does it coincide together with the floods and the drill in timing wise.

reply to post by Robin Marks
We haven't heard anything from Susan in a while, and I haven't heard if they are still under tornado warning, but the rain is moving in other areas, but it hasn't stopped over that area now in over 4 hours. Vilonia has been evacuated from what I heard earlier today. I hope we hear from Susan soon.

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I'm here just watching everything real close and monitoring it all. Not much to say but ready to get out if needed. Storms are north of us but moving in again. Lots of lightening and thunder right now.

reply to post by Robin Marks
I just saw this posted on another site and this makes me so mad. If that is the case why aren't they telling us this on our local news.

Kansas City News

My local news in Kansas City had a story on kids having earthquake drills. They ducked and covered just like in those old nuke cold war films . Then the reporter said we have a 20%-40% of having an earthquake. We are pretty far from New Madrid actually about 5 hours away.

Thankfully they dropped the tornado watch.
So the threat is the rain and flooding.
Wow. I was listening to Arkansas talk radio. Wow.
They're still talking about the birth certificate. Wow.

reply to post by Robin Marks
My entire household just had at big laught at that. I would say something but then I live here, so shut my mouth.
***Alert** Obama is have an inpromtue Press Conference at 9:30 tonight.

reply to post by Robin Marks
Presdient Obama's speech is about something to do with National Security.???
FOX News,, And River Flood Map is closed due to Security?? WTF!!