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Earthquake Swarm in Arkansas Intensifies. Memphis, Tennessee could be epicenter for the next big one
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I'm sorry, I didn't want to write this.
You may remember that I said if I had Scott Ausbrook's job, I'd have already been fired.
If you notice Jim Berkland was with the USGS, but is no longer. His ideas were outside the mainstream consensus.
I agree with him completely about the ground water tides. I independantly came to the came conclusion. I researched everything I could find on the moon, and groundwater. The evidence was there but really thin. I hadn't even heard of Jim Berkland. I somehow missed his research in the USGS and other official studies. That's because he wasn't there to be found. It wasn't until a member on the Yellowstone thread said that my ideas were inline with Jim Berkland. I didn't even think he was a real geologist at first. I thought he was just another one of us, out here on the fringe, with an alternative view. No, he was real. A real geologist. He got a degree. And he wasn't the only one I found as I researched. There are the vulcanologists I mentioned. But these people are sidelined because the cause and effect is subtle, and will only be confirmed after mountains of data over a long time can be studied. And crammed into a super-computer. It's a statistical phenomenon. And it is an ongoing process, so you can't just stop the ball from spinning and say there it is.
I'll post an "expert" who says the supermoon is nothing to worry about and it had nothing to do with Japan. So you can ignore all my ideas. Since I'm no expert. He said that because it happened before the "supermoon", when tides were low, it means it had absolutely nothing to do with it. There you go. He's not thinking of it as a cycle. He is dividing up the lunar cycle and pointing to a particular place in time and space and says that since there is a delay, well then, there's no connection.
news.xinhuanet.com...
The earthquakes do not always falls precisely at midnight when the clock is chiming.
The avalanche doesn't fall immediately after a large sound wave hits it. It trembles first.
Sometimes the earthquake doesn't happen when the moon is pulling the water up, sometimes the earthquakes happen when the moom lets go. When the tidal pressures are their greatest, this may lock up faults. And in different areas, the pressure may unlock the fault. The same force can have two outcomes. When the moon releases it's grips, and the water and faults return to a more normal state, and as the water has carved new channels and there is back pressure, then this would provide a change to destablize the fault which will lead to an earthquake.
Ug. I just had to say that and get it out. There is no elegant or easy way of explaining this ongoing process. It's fundamental and complicated. For thousands of years, humans have struggeled to understand the tides.
That's why I just like saying the moon is a pump. Easy to figure out. It pumping and the earth is expanding and contracting and it's like squeezing a ball. Old rubber balls develope cracks. Take one in your hand and squeeze it and observe.
Today on Japanese televison a geology expert said that the quake today was not related to the 9.0, and it was an isolated incident. And that nothing is happening at Mt. Fuji. Wow. That's confidence. He's saying that after a gigantic earthquake with hundreds of aftershocks, after the entire island was moved several meters, and after the earth's axis was altered. There's no connection people. None at all. That's the problem with too many scientist.
They can't study the forest because their noses are so close to the truck of the first tree they encountered, all they see is bark. Wait til they figure out the tree has branches and leaves as well.
You may remember that I said if I had Scott Ausbrook's job, I'd have already been fired.
If you notice Jim Berkland was with the USGS, but is no longer. His ideas were outside the mainstream consensus.
I agree with him completely about the ground water tides. I independantly came to the came conclusion. I researched everything I could find on the moon, and groundwater. The evidence was there but really thin. I hadn't even heard of Jim Berkland. I somehow missed his research in the USGS and other official studies. That's because he wasn't there to be found. It wasn't until a member on the Yellowstone thread said that my ideas were inline with Jim Berkland. I didn't even think he was a real geologist at first. I thought he was just another one of us, out here on the fringe, with an alternative view. No, he was real. A real geologist. He got a degree. And he wasn't the only one I found as I researched. There are the vulcanologists I mentioned. But these people are sidelined because the cause and effect is subtle, and will only be confirmed after mountains of data over a long time can be studied. And crammed into a super-computer. It's a statistical phenomenon. And it is an ongoing process, so you can't just stop the ball from spinning and say there it is.
I'll post an "expert" who says the supermoon is nothing to worry about and it had nothing to do with Japan. So you can ignore all my ideas. Since I'm no expert. He said that because it happened before the "supermoon", when tides were low, it means it had absolutely nothing to do with it. There you go. He's not thinking of it as a cycle. He is dividing up the lunar cycle and pointing to a particular place in time and space and says that since there is a delay, well then, there's no connection.
news.xinhuanet.com...
The earthquakes do not always falls precisely at midnight when the clock is chiming.
The avalanche doesn't fall immediately after a large sound wave hits it. It trembles first.
Sometimes the earthquake doesn't happen when the moon is pulling the water up, sometimes the earthquakes happen when the moom lets go. When the tidal pressures are their greatest, this may lock up faults. And in different areas, the pressure may unlock the fault. The same force can have two outcomes. When the moon releases it's grips, and the water and faults return to a more normal state, and as the water has carved new channels and there is back pressure, then this would provide a change to destablize the fault which will lead to an earthquake.
Ug. I just had to say that and get it out. There is no elegant or easy way of explaining this ongoing process. It's fundamental and complicated. For thousands of years, humans have struggeled to understand the tides.
That's why I just like saying the moon is a pump. Easy to figure out. It pumping and the earth is expanding and contracting and it's like squeezing a ball. Old rubber balls develope cracks. Take one in your hand and squeeze it and observe.
Today on Japanese televison a geology expert said that the quake today was not related to the 9.0, and it was an isolated incident. And that nothing is happening at Mt. Fuji. Wow. That's confidence. He's saying that after a gigantic earthquake with hundreds of aftershocks, after the entire island was moved several meters, and after the earth's axis was altered. There's no connection people. None at all. That's the problem with too many scientist.
They can't study the forest because their noses are so close to the truck of the first tree they encountered, all they see is bark. Wait til they figure out the tree has branches and leaves as well.
reply to post by crazydaisy
Thing is, it did not matter which President was in office this is something which deals in forces outside our law system.
Thing is, it did not matter which President was in office this is something which deals in forces outside our law system.
Robin,
This is a bit off topic, but yet related since we are all concerned about quakes triggering other quakes.
It has been reported the Japan is suffering from hundreds of aftershocks, is this normal?
latimesblogs.latimes.com...
This is a bit off topic, but yet related since we are all concerned about quakes triggering other quakes.
It has been reported the Japan is suffering from hundreds of aftershocks, is this normal?
latimesblogs.latimes.com...
Japan's massive magnitude 8.9 earthquake that struck March 11 at 2:46 p.m. local time did not take place in isolation. A series of smaller quakes hit in the days before. Aftershocks — as many as 12 to 15 an hour — now total in the hundreds, including more than 30 of magnitude 6 or greater.
reply to post by Realtruth
I have a hard time considering any of these aftershocks since the smaller 5-6mag hourly quakes started before the 9.0, what are they is the ?? I have no clue but what is going on in japan is in no way normal even for Japan. just my Opinion of course.
I have a hard time considering any of these aftershocks since the smaller 5-6mag hourly quakes started before the 9.0, what are they is the ?? I have no clue but what is going on in japan is in no way normal even for Japan. just my Opinion of course.
reply to post by Robin Marks
Wise words my friend!!
I have been trying to convey the exact same thing in my supermoon thread, I will have to link your post in it .
There are many others who believe the same as you Robin keep up the good work!
Wise words my friend!!
I have been trying to convey the exact same thing in my supermoon thread, I will have to link your post in it .
There are many others who believe the same as you Robin keep up the good work!
Originally posted by -W1LL
reply to post by Realtruth
I have a hard time considering any of these aftershocks since the smaller 5-6mag hourly quakes started before the 9.0, what are they is the ?? I have no clue but what is going on in japan is in no way normal even for Japan. just my Opinion of course.
Sigh, I guess you read between my lines.
I am not expert, but it just didn't add up.
Here is my point, the same oddities seem to be occurring elsewhere, if you know what I mean.
reply to post by Realtruth
It is very normal after a major quake to have hundreds of aftershocks. They can continue for days, weeks, months, and even years. Don't think of it as one "big one". It's a process. Tectonic movement. And there were prequakes. The 7.2 beforehand was part of the process.
I think there has been remote triggering in other regions. But that's not an aftershock.
You should check out Quake Watch.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Large quakes like the these in Japan can cause volcanoes to become active.
Don't forget to check out our Resource Bibliography and give it a flag and star.
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And the other links in my signature.
It is very normal after a major quake to have hundreds of aftershocks. They can continue for days, weeks, months, and even years. Don't think of it as one "big one". It's a process. Tectonic movement. And there were prequakes. The 7.2 beforehand was part of the process.
I think there has been remote triggering in other regions. But that's not an aftershock.
You should check out Quake Watch.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Large quakes like the these in Japan can cause volcanoes to become active.
Don't forget to check out our Resource Bibliography and give it a flag and star.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
And the other links in my signature.
edit on 15-3-2011 by Robin Marks because: (no reason given)
Susan (and anyone else in AR) did you just now (1:29 pm) feel or hear any rumbling?
As you know, I live south of Fort Smith and I just did...no planes or anything nearby. It was a very weird rumble. It was almost like thunder, and lasted probably 5-10 seconds, maybe longer...I felt it too. It didn't really feel like an earthquake, but it vibrated my foot almost like a plane going overhead would.
As you know, I live south of Fort Smith and I just did...no planes or anything nearby. It was a very weird rumble. It was almost like thunder, and lasted probably 5-10 seconds, maybe longer...I felt it too. It didn't really feel like an earthquake, but it vibrated my foot almost like a plane going overhead would.
reply to post by tmar11
I'm in Little Rock and didn't feel anything, you might wanna check to make sure it wasn't an Oklahoma quake you were feeling, just a suggestion.
I'm in Little Rock and didn't feel anything, you might wanna check to make sure it wasn't an Oklahoma quake you were feeling, just a suggestion.
reply to post by HadEnough
Good idea. Not sure if it was even an earthquake, but I'm trying to figure out what it could have been...hmm.
Good idea. Not sure if it was even an earthquake, but I'm trying to figure out what it could have been...hmm.
reply to post by Robin Marks
Hi...couldn't agree more with you and I applaud your effort in denying ignorance through your own research and quest for the truth. I have been an ATS lurker amongst other things for several years and have come to appreciate the sound arguments put forth by the likes of you and a few others on the happenings affecting the Earth.
It is interesting that you mentioned Jim Berkland, someone who started out viewing earthquakes as a 'scientist' with the USGS but ultimately acknowledging that there is more than meets the eye with regard to earthquakes. Like you..he too has recently voiced his concern over a possible earthquake hitting the US in the near future.
As for the so called experts or scientists, I agree that they can sometimes be further from the truth owing to their narrow perception of things and fear of thinking outside the box.
There is a parable from India concerning four blind men who were trying to described an elephant, with each only feeling only a particular part of the animal. For the one who felt its trunk, he described the elephant akin to a large snake, the other who felt the elephant's leg, described it the animal as a large tree trunk and likewise with the other two. Separately, they gave a wrong description of the animal..yet if taken as a whole...they were indeed giving an accurate description of an elephant. It is sad that this is how the so called experts view things as they fail to take into account the numerous factors that make up the whole picture.
It is people like you on ATS that gives me reason to seek truth and to deny ignorance. Keep up the excellent work in giving a fresh perspective of things.
To None I Wish Ill But To All Peace and Love.
Hi...couldn't agree more with you and I applaud your effort in denying ignorance through your own research and quest for the truth. I have been an ATS lurker amongst other things for several years and have come to appreciate the sound arguments put forth by the likes of you and a few others on the happenings affecting the Earth.
It is interesting that you mentioned Jim Berkland, someone who started out viewing earthquakes as a 'scientist' with the USGS but ultimately acknowledging that there is more than meets the eye with regard to earthquakes. Like you..he too has recently voiced his concern over a possible earthquake hitting the US in the near future.
As for the so called experts or scientists, I agree that they can sometimes be further from the truth owing to their narrow perception of things and fear of thinking outside the box.
There is a parable from India concerning four blind men who were trying to described an elephant, with each only feeling only a particular part of the animal. For the one who felt its trunk, he described the elephant akin to a large snake, the other who felt the elephant's leg, described it the animal as a large tree trunk and likewise with the other two. Separately, they gave a wrong description of the animal..yet if taken as a whole...they were indeed giving an accurate description of an elephant. It is sad that this is how the so called experts view things as they fail to take into account the numerous factors that make up the whole picture.
It is people like you on ATS that gives me reason to seek truth and to deny ignorance. Keep up the excellent work in giving a fresh perspective of things.
To None I Wish Ill But To All Peace and Love.
Looks like Australia is heading in the right direction in relation to fracking. Its only a start, but maybe some of the folks living there can start
giving their support to the politicians that are working to stop this process in their country.
Labor strikes green note with ban on Toxic Chemicals
''We recognise that this is not a finalised policy, because that needs to be done in consultation with a number of stakeholder groups … this is a road map … that makes clear that we will have exclusion areas, we will protect those important waterways and we will ban the use of BTEX chemicals.'' The chemicals benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene - collectively referred to as BTEX - are sometimes used in the fracking, or hydraulic fracturing, process for extracting coal seam gas.
Labor strikes green note with ban on Toxic Chemicals
reply to post by Robin Marks
"Wait til they figure out the tree has branches and leaves as well."
There's no hope for them even discovering the roots!!!
Found this in the 2011 Farmer's Almanac, page112: When the moon runs high or low.
"The date of the high begins the most likely 5-day period of earthquakes in the Northern Hemisphere; the date of the low indicates a similar 5-day period in the Southern Hemisphere. Also noted are the 2 days each month when the moon is on the celestial equator, indicating the most likely time for earthquakes in either hemisphere."
Maybe this is common knowledge, but it was news to me. I only knew of apogee and perigee.
It lists the 12th this month as rides high. The day before Japan's EQ.
New Zealand was two days after runs low(Southern Hemi).
8.8 in Chile was at perigee and four days after rides high(Northern Hemi). Chile is Southern Hemi, which is why anything is hard to prove definitively, there are always exceptions!
"Wait til they figure out the tree has branches and leaves as well."
There's no hope for them even discovering the roots!!!
Found this in the 2011 Farmer's Almanac, page112: When the moon runs high or low.
"The date of the high begins the most likely 5-day period of earthquakes in the Northern Hemisphere; the date of the low indicates a similar 5-day period in the Southern Hemisphere. Also noted are the 2 days each month when the moon is on the celestial equator, indicating the most likely time for earthquakes in either hemisphere."
Maybe this is common knowledge, but it was news to me. I only knew of apogee and perigee.
It lists the 12th this month as rides high. The day before Japan's EQ.
New Zealand was two days after runs low(Southern Hemi).
8.8 in Chile was at perigee and four days after rides high(Northern Hemi). Chile is Southern Hemi, which is why anything is hard to prove definitively, there are always exceptions!
reply to post by HadEnough
Sorry to be so sloppy-grateful, but you all have no idea what this means to me to have support.
Yes, we are getting the seismo as soon as we get back from a short trip. It is the only way to prove that I am not crazy.
Robin-I will be by the Gulf soon-yes, during the 19th and its events. This cannot be changed. What should I be watching for? I will have my computer and will report and take photos.
To condense: I had stomach cancer in 2007. I now have no stomach. I am fine. But I have become ridiculously sensitive to tastes (I can figure out ingredients from a taste of the food) and sensations. The docs told me if I experienced dizzyness, etc. it could be a cancer returning. So, I take good care of myself, meditate, eat well, and then one fine morning-wham! dizzy! Can you understand why learning it is NOT me, but an earthquake, has made a huge difference in my life?
And I become more sensitive by the day. It is interesting.
I totally believe the underground tide problems. As our area becomes more saturated, the shivers are more pronounced. Why wouldn't there be tides in pools underground?
I believe the real scientists are paying attention to us. Because they don't know and they need as many observers as possible.
Sorry to be so sloppy-grateful, but you all have no idea what this means to me to have support.
Yes, we are getting the seismo as soon as we get back from a short trip. It is the only way to prove that I am not crazy.
Robin-I will be by the Gulf soon-yes, during the 19th and its events. This cannot be changed. What should I be watching for? I will have my computer and will report and take photos.
To condense: I had stomach cancer in 2007. I now have no stomach. I am fine. But I have become ridiculously sensitive to tastes (I can figure out ingredients from a taste of the food) and sensations. The docs told me if I experienced dizzyness, etc. it could be a cancer returning. So, I take good care of myself, meditate, eat well, and then one fine morning-wham! dizzy! Can you understand why learning it is NOT me, but an earthquake, has made a huge difference in my life?
And I become more sensitive by the day. It is interesting.
I totally believe the underground tide problems. As our area becomes more saturated, the shivers are more pronounced. Why wouldn't there be tides in pools underground?
I believe the real scientists are paying attention to us. Because they don't know and they need as many observers as possible.
reply to post by katfish
I am SO happy for you. I am a very empathetic person, so that making you so happy made my day. You did see, and I apologize but I forget the source so I cannot post a credible link, but a geologist or seismologist (can't remember which) said that the big quakes from Japan were moving St.Louis by up to a quarter of an inch at a time, but they didn't think anybody felt it. So here's a thought. I wonder if anyone else who is feeling these things have any medical issues going on as well? Your super sensitive due to history of cancer and lack of a body organ, I have new onset seizures.. is it possible there is a connection? Did the earthquakes trigger my seizures, or do they just make me more sensitive to the earthquakes.. or maybe it's totally unrelated and I'm just looking to deep. I did notice that most of us who feel the little ones are at home A LOT. Maybe being there alone, in the quiet of the day makes us more aware of subtle changes. I don't know. All of this 'solitaire confinement,' as I call it, may have me looking to deeply into things. Would love to hear if anyone else has medical issues that they think could possibly be related to their sensitivity to the earthquakes.
I am SO happy for you. I am a very empathetic person, so that making you so happy made my day. You did see, and I apologize but I forget the source so I cannot post a credible link, but a geologist or seismologist (can't remember which) said that the big quakes from Japan were moving St.Louis by up to a quarter of an inch at a time, but they didn't think anybody felt it. So here's a thought. I wonder if anyone else who is feeling these things have any medical issues going on as well? Your super sensitive due to history of cancer and lack of a body organ, I have new onset seizures.. is it possible there is a connection? Did the earthquakes trigger my seizures, or do they just make me more sensitive to the earthquakes.. or maybe it's totally unrelated and I'm just looking to deep. I did notice that most of us who feel the little ones are at home A LOT. Maybe being there alone, in the quiet of the day makes us more aware of subtle changes. I don't know. All of this 'solitaire confinement,' as I call it, may have me looking to deeply into things. Would love to hear if anyone else has medical issues that they think could possibly be related to their sensitivity to the earthquakes.
The general trend is that the swarm is waning again. It's quite a change from the other day when the quakes were constant. And there have still been
no 3+ quakes in days. I'm glad this is happening and I am sure the everyone is also happy when things seem to be quieting. I'm just trying to be
optimistic.
I'm taking this calm moment to speculate. Wildly. I know everyone is focused on Japan. As they should be.
I have followed every development as well. But I am always searching other events and wondering about them, and wondering if they are related. I'm not going to explain myself. I'll let you connect the dots, or decide if it's even relevant. My mind always gravitates to the wierd. The oddities entrall me. If it's normal, I'm bored.
The following things confuse me and make me think they fit in some way.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
This quake is part of a rift valley. Think rift. It's in the middle of a continent.
Funny thing, when I dug a little deeper, I found the following article.
www.energyandcapital.com...
Hmmm. Lakes and volcanoes seem to go together. Also, this should show you how mad the scamble is to security every bit of oil and gas we can find.
Here's another quake that jumps out at me. Another mid-continental quake. And it came with it's own mud-volcano.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
en.trend.az...
Wierd huh.
One more. And it's probably a stretch on my part.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
This one is just a wild guess. There's just something about it's specific location. It reminds me of a bend in the Arkansas River. Nothing else really.
Don't forget to flag and star our librarian's efforts, SunFlower SuperStar.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I think I sweet talked ya, SuperStar.
If I wasn't lost in my own little world most of the time, I'd help you sort through it and help add some more. I will, I promise. I feel bad that I'm always adding more links. This thread is amazing. I want to respond to so many things but can't. Like the Farmer's Almanac. I was thinking this thread was like a Farmer's Almanac for earthquakes. A mix of science and traditional thinking.
Keep up the wonderful work people. And I'm so glad that those of you that live in the area are finding support here. I would feel guitly and bashful, but this is too important to diminish this in any way. I think this is something special and it's because there are so many people, new people, lurkers and the old members, all working together. And bringing their strengths to the table.
If you notice my strenth is not the great graphics, and bells and whistles. I can't even get my signature right, and I don't have the time or patience to do anything about it. You can barely see it. It's that wierd purple colour.
Sorry. Please know that most times I try to edit myself and stick to the point. Obviously, at the moment, I'm all over the place.
Stop.
I'm taking this calm moment to speculate. Wildly. I know everyone is focused on Japan. As they should be.
I have followed every development as well. But I am always searching other events and wondering about them, and wondering if they are related. I'm not going to explain myself. I'll let you connect the dots, or decide if it's even relevant. My mind always gravitates to the wierd. The oddities entrall me. If it's normal, I'm bored.
The following things confuse me and make me think they fit in some way.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
This quake is part of a rift valley. Think rift. It's in the middle of a continent.
Funny thing, when I dug a little deeper, I found the following article.
www.energyandcapital.com...
Hmmm. Lakes and volcanoes seem to go together. Also, this should show you how mad the scamble is to security every bit of oil and gas we can find.
Here's another quake that jumps out at me. Another mid-continental quake. And it came with it's own mud-volcano.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
en.trend.az...
Wierd huh.
One more. And it's probably a stretch on my part.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
This one is just a wild guess. There's just something about it's specific location. It reminds me of a bend in the Arkansas River. Nothing else really.
Don't forget to flag and star our librarian's efforts, SunFlower SuperStar.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I think I sweet talked ya, SuperStar.
If I wasn't lost in my own little world most of the time, I'd help you sort through it and help add some more. I will, I promise. I feel bad that I'm always adding more links. This thread is amazing. I want to respond to so many things but can't. Like the Farmer's Almanac. I was thinking this thread was like a Farmer's Almanac for earthquakes. A mix of science and traditional thinking.
Keep up the wonderful work people. And I'm so glad that those of you that live in the area are finding support here. I would feel guitly and bashful, but this is too important to diminish this in any way. I think this is something special and it's because there are so many people, new people, lurkers and the old members, all working together. And bringing their strengths to the table.
If you notice my strenth is not the great graphics, and bells and whistles. I can't even get my signature right, and I don't have the time or patience to do anything about it. You can barely see it. It's that wierd purple colour.
Sorry. Please know that most times I try to edit myself and stick to the point. Obviously, at the moment, I'm all over the place.
Stop.
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