Anonymous Has the Bomb

I love all the people in this thread talking about stuff that is SO OUT OF THEIR DEPTH it's quite frankly amusing.

For those of you shooting your mouth off about what stuxnet can or can't do... maybe a good first step would be looking up what a PLC is and realizing they are in everything from milling machines to dairy farm equipment to auto factories to power plants and infrastructure of ALL KINDS!

Next you ought to maybe look into how easy those siemens codes are to get through social engineering.

Next you ought to... Actually Never Mind. Because y'all still really just plain don't get it and make all us CT types look and sound really stupid when you open your mouths and insert your digital feet.


I'd love to see one of these threads that doesn't go down the tubes of internet braggadacio and ill educated speculation JUST ONCE.

all stuxnet did was reset their minesweeper scores. you can't believe anything the government say's when it comes to this.

it's all propaganda. they want you to believe it was a skynet/matrix cyberattack with all the computers blowing up, sparks flying, sirens going off and people running for their lives. it's all b.s.

all iran probably had to do is replace a few computers and and couple of spare parts on their centrifuges.

your computer is independent of your car. there is no virus that any government can send that could infect your computer and disable your ability to start your car.

the same thing with these nuclear reactors. it's not like the centrifuges are connected to google.

it's all independent. no hardware that is used to run any equipment in the nuclear facility is connected to anything that has internet access. it's basic security 101.

this was probably another multibillion black project that absolutely did nothing, other than waste taxpayer dollars.

Anyone ever notice that the letters in STUX are S=19 T=20 U=21 X=24 ... Which sums up to 84.
As in 1984!

I'm TOO observant sometimes lol.

Why would a private security firm have information like that in the text of their private Emails? This seems like a fabrication. Any other source?

Originally posted by roguetechie
I love all the people in this thread talking about stuff that is SO OUT OF THEIR DEPTH it's quite frankly amusing.

For those of you shooting your mouth off about what stuxnet can or can't do... maybe a good first step would be looking up what a PLC is and realizing they are in everything from milling machines to dairy farm equipment to auto factories to power plants and infrastructure of ALL KINDS!

Next you ought to maybe look into how easy those siemens codes are to get through social engineering.

Next you ought to... Actually Never Mind. Because y'all still really just plain don't get it and make all us CT types look and sound really stupid when you open your mouths and insert your digital feet.


I'd love to see one of these threads that doesn't go down the tubes of internet braggadacio and ill educated speculation JUST ONCE.

Logged in to requote this.
When these topics come up and people here insert their 'digital feet', makes me question why I visit this site.

reply to post by randomname


So there is a mechanical throttle linkage on the centrifuges?

you do know that the infection vector for stuxnet was traced to COMPUTERS CONSULTANTS BROUGHT INTO THE FACILITY right?

And those computers were most likely infected while these technical consultants moved back and forth from their country of origin to Iran to work on the iranian nuclear effort.

See this is what I'm talking about!

Why are so many people intent on muddying the waters with baseless speculation and ill informed technical commentary?

I wish people knew about Anonymous before the Wikileaks crap. They were pretty much a running joke of the internet - buncha script kiddies and internet nerds who would hack random sites for no rhyme or reason.

Now they are "standing up for our freedoms." Gimme a break. Based on what I knew of Anon before they got this weird pseudo-fame, we are in really bad shape if this "group" is who we are counting on.

reply to post by hillynilly


I can see it now.... oh man this is going to be a bumpy ride for all of us... where's my sun tan lotion spf over 9000 and my lawn chair...

Oh and PS:

Yes computer viruses can affect things like your car... there's this thing in newer cars called an OBD 2 diagnostic port ... if someone snaps in an IO device and uploads a new fuel injection map that is detrimental to the functionality of your engine you'll find out REAL quick how much a virus can affect REAL WORLD SYSTEMS.

So many of the so called self proclaimed "experts" that have popped into this thread talking like stuxnet is nothing to worry about...

Ignorance is BLISS and these people would have been right ten or twenty years ago in making the statements they are making... But ALAS time marches on and systems get upgraded new technologies are accepted and "net connected" systems are LESS COSTLY TO MAINTAIN because you don't need dedicatecd personnel at disparate and far flung locales manning things physically 24/7/365!!

SCADA systems are FRIGHTENINGLY vulnerable and we have KNOWN this for YEARS AND YEARS! Up until stuxnet it was just a nightmare of technically minded infrastructure supporting professionals .....

Now it's VERY REAL and with the basic coding done it provides a good starting point at the VERY LEAST for other attacks ON OTHER SYSTEMS of pretty much an array of targets so versatile its literally IMPOSSIBLE to develop protections for all of them in the time we have before someone fires the first shots in this new form of warfare.

Things like this are not good for anyone except SECURITY CONTRACTORS.

I haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the term 'anon' is inherently inert; that chances are no-one has stolen stuxnet and the US are just preparing to infect someone other than Iran and blame 'anon'?

reply to post by TheFinalTruth14


All movements evolve, most have humble beginnings as well. I am just happy that so many young people are interested in the subject of corporate corruption.

Anon is capable of bad and good, that has been shown. I am hopeful that the good will outweigh the bad.

get ready to kiss the internet goodbye. thanks annon for fuggin it up..revenge only makes things worse. peace

Link backing up what has been said in this thread regarding topic.
www.theregister.co.uk...

Topiary, an online activist affiliated with the 4-chan-spawned internet coalition, claimed on Twitter to have gained possession of the malware. He said: "Anonymous is now in possession of Stuxnet – problem, officer?"

Later, another Twitter account affiliated with Anonymous posted links to what purported to be a partial decompile of Stuxnet.

Snorre Fagerland, a senior threat researcher at Norman, writes in a Twitter update: "Anonymous only have Stuxnet binaries and disassembly. Not the original source."

Originally posted by roguetechie
I love all the people in this thread talking about stuff that is SO OUT OF THEIR DEPTH .......


y'all.....

lol

reply to post by purplemer


good. down with iran. i hope that country looks like a parking lot in 5 years.

Has anyone else yet noticed that the said website gathering of anon, 4chan's image board website is now offline. What does that mean, Obviously it could be just an issue but even the status update page for 4chan says nothing is wrong. Just odd that in the said situation now this is happening.

Originally posted by purplemer

Originally posted by kwakakev
Something does not sound right here at all. Why would Anon target Iran with Stuxnet when Iran has already been hit with it? The Anon that surfaced on the cablegate release was standing for the people and after the large multinational companies. This stinks of a false flag, hoax or some other diversion to me. I guess that is one thing with the name Anon as it could be anyone, mainly someone who does not want to be known. The enemies of Iran are already well known.

edit on 14-2-2011 by kwakakev because: spelling 'of'

you read it wrong anon never targerted iran. however they now have a copy of the code that was used to attack iran.

kx

I think you read Purplemer's reply wrong. They were pointing out that saying Anon was targeting Iran, doesn't sound right. That it might be a set up for a "false Flag" of some sort. Blaming Amon for the actions of another group trying to frame Anon. They are reinforcing that Anon has been on the side of the people at large against multinational companies, not against Iran.

When I hear about stuxnet it reminds me of skynet and how coincidental that it's a self replicating worm that can bring down a whole way of society. I agree with some people who say this shouldn't be in the hands of Anonymous, however it can go one of two ways. Anonymous can use it to bring down the whole infrastructure of a politically corrupt society or use it to plunge the world into chaos. There's a saying that "Hell is paved with good intentions" and that's how I feel about Anonymous. How far is too far, and how does a leaderless and faceless entity distinguish from right and wrong?

I don't think it matters who's hand this loaded gun is in, does it? A loaded gun in a 5 yr olds hand is just as deadly in an adults hand, is it not

Anon don't have anything of the sort, prepare your a's because anon are just the fallguys the government need for total internet control and closure.
Nobody is firin' nothing but lazorz and the program used is not akin to stuxnet at all.
Ignore this false flag crap because the gov knows anon can't defend itself from such accusations, anon is not an organisation, YOU reading this can be anon and do something in anons name upsetting the majority of other anon and nobody can deny you that right, because anon is anonymous freedom, the last bastion of free speech and no two anon are the same. The gov just want to turn the concept of anon into an Al-Qaeda esque e-terrorist group with leaders, training camps and objectives all anon follow, anonymous is the exact definition of its namesake because it is its namesake and not the underground matrix fightclub organisation newfriends and those out the loop try to make it.