Dr Edgar Mitchell "There are Several Species Visiting our Planet" Feb 12 2011

reply to post by gortex


Sorry man, but it will take allot more than a government grown astronaut to convince me of little green men. It is not easy to become an astronaut and you have to know the right people and say the right things to even be concidered, and all who you know and all that you say is government. In my opinion he and others are there to keep the conspirocy going to distract you from the truth. There is no evidence for or against et's, however the power of belief in something, is something the Rockefelers and Rothchilds and other superpowers learned along time ago. Grobels said if you repeat a lie enough people will belive it. This is sad but true, mankind is gulible.

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Thank You very much Gortex, your OP pointing me to this interview has assisted in confirming the things I knew and those things I merely considered to be true.
I like how he tells us there's more that can't be told...yet.

Very much appreciated.

Well , if a third of a tonne of bacteria enters hits our planet everyday , coming from outer space, the title of the OP and the fact that several species visit our planet is not wrong. On the other hand just because someone said so, doesn't make it true. I will believe when I experience it. I'm just hoping for a close encounter, but it should happen in front of the masses. District 9 style.

BTW, do you guys think there are ET politicians? If so, then we might just be better of without ET's coming here!

Here is my source for the Bacteria stats www.scienceagogo.com...

Originally posted by dizziedame
reply to post by ThatGuyInTheKnow

 

Whoa there buddy.

Are you intimating that Christians do not believe there are ET's?

I am a Christian and I believe God created everything. Why do you believe we Christians would not believe God created other worlds and beings unlike humans?

As a Christain I do not separate Science from God. I would say God was the master of all science.

You lose all credibility when you blame Christians for what you don't believe could be the truth.

There are creatures on our earth that we haven't discovered yet.

We are learning new things daily that we never dreamed could be true.

So, I ask you why not believe there could be aliens visiting our earth?

edit on 14-2-2011 by dizziedame because: to correct a spelling error.

There's a big differnce between conservative or fundamentalist christians and the more liberal denominations. I know christians that think the earth is 6000 years old and that any alien presence would surely be demonic in nature. And then there're those christians who feel that evolution or the big bang or even aliens do not change their faith because god is almighty and if god wanted to use evolution or hte big bang to make us then so be it and if god made ET's then so be it. And you know, what if the aliens aren't even aliens. What if they're humans? What if there's a big intergalactic human family? Who knows. Maybe they're not aliens. Even if they're so what?

Originally posted by iameternity
The BIGGEST drawback of predatory behavior is that its hard to share and lesser species are simply cattle and slaves. That statement dictates almost all aspects of how and why things are the way they are here on earth with us humans dominating. Broaden that behavior and apply it to our alien visitors, how likely is it that there are SEVERAL species of extremely intelligent apex predators basking among us for whatever reason.

To me your statement would make more sense if you replaced the words predator and predatory with omnivore and omnivorous. A true intelligent predatory species would likely be so dependent on a strictly limited food supply that it would take great care to insure that species survival. Whereas omnivores can freely exploit any one food supply to the point where that supply is exhausted and simply move on to another.

Although if you look at grass the true basis of almost all our food you might find its not doing so bad.

That being said it may be that for a species to evolve to the point that it is capable of interstellar travel it possibly would have to overcome its instincts and modify its behavior according to reason.

Originally posted by iameternity
With that said, I must immediately dismiss Dr Edgar and his claim. I don't dispute the argument that there MIGHT be alien life here on earth, but any number greater than ONE species would in my mind defy ALL logic.

The amount of stupidity here is insane.

You dismiss what he says because of the assumption that if multiple advanced alien races were here, they would act and think only as you would like them to.

I think a cogent argument can easily be made for a non-interventionist approach. Therefore your argument is mush and I guess you should reevaluate wether your mind is capable of "logic".

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by FOXMULDER147

 

You may have misunderstood my point....

Anyway, he touches on it, cryptically, near the end. The people he talks to, who are "actively involved", cannot tell him anything directly that they can't say publicly, either.

I think, though....when you know someone well, AND they have a secret and are compelled to keep it....you can intuit a lot. It's the old "Blink twice if what I said is close to the truth" game!

(...something like that....)

Of course, that's what I mean when I say Mitchell's 'in the know' is different from most others'. Being 'involved', he sees the winks - or double blinks, as you put it - that most people don't.

Good comments from you and others. I agree, his version of 'in the know' is just that he has so many connections all over the world and is privy to things most of us can only dream of. I mean the man went into space and knows people that have been there - he's a rockstar. What you wouldn't give to be in his place and see and know the thigns he does.

I'm surprised no one mentions Gordon Cooper. He was an astronaut too. He tells of an instance in the desert near Edwards Airforce Base in 1955 where a filming crew caught sight of a flying saucer that landed near the airfield. He said it had landing legs. And it zipped away. He said he packaged the film and sent it to the government for review and never heard anything of it again. It's a really bizarre account.

A link about it:
santitafarella.wordpress.com... ooper-on-ufos/

According to his accounts, Cooper realized that these men, who on a regular basis have seen experimental aircraft flying and landing around them as part of their job of filming those aircraft, were clearly worked up and unnerved. They explained how the saucer hovered over them, landed 50 yards away from them using three extended landing gears and then took off as they approached for a closer look. Being photographers with cameras in hand, they of course shot images with 35mm and 4-by-5 still cameras as well as motion film. There was a special Pentagon number to call to report incidents like this. He called and it immediately went up the chain of command until he was instructed by a general to have the film developed (but to make no prints of it) and send it right away in a locked courier pouch.

Gordon Cooper died in 2004.

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I do not think theres many sceptics who would like to take him on even though he said he has no real evidence to back up his claims as yet, no doubt one day the gag will come off..

He's a classy and innovative guy, but when it comes to wild claims, you've got to double check them as with anybody else. Are you ready to believe Noah's Ark exists on Mt. Ararat because moonwalker Jim Irwin claimed it does? Or that Uri Geller can teleport lost items, because a moonwalker says he saw him do it?

I've been in touch with Dr. Mitchell for years with respectful give-and-take.

I'm glad he tried that telepathy experiment, but I believe he massaged the results to create the impression of patterns that I can't find in them. And I've told him so.

Has anyone else ever read his paper on that experiment to decide for themselves? It's really the only paranormal experience he was directly involved in that is susceptible to independent verification. It's a good way to gauge credibility on other claims that cannot be verified.

Try to find the original paper on the Internet.

reply to post by LiquidAsh


There is an argument as to whether Bacteria have different species .
www.astrobio.net...
But of course Dr Mitchell was referring to intelligent species capable of traveling here under their own volition

Originally posted by Anthony1138
reply to post by NavalFC

 

Several astronauts have gone insane, jumping to wild and crazy theories, one male astronaut went to a congress building with a gun and a knife, in his underwear claiming he was the "emperor" and all shall worship him.
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I missed that one -- can you help me with any checkable sources, please?

That is really amazing, i hope this can open more peoples eyes to the fact that we are not alone.

Thanx OP for sharing that great podcast!

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Bigfoot73

 

Another strange comment EM made while on the moon was something along the lines of;
EM to Shepard: Hmm..looks like we've had visitors again during the night...Shepard: Probably best not to talk about that..EM: I guess you're right.

He's never elaborated on that either.

Who were these visitors that left tracks for EM to find?

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Good memory. Now -- how would you go about checking on this?

A subsequent poster led the way -- The code is ALSJ.

Please exhibit some capacity for independent investigation or you'll be a passive victim forever.

The answer -- the truth -- is out there. Please find it and report back.

Sorry but as I see it, what's the big deal.

Many members here on ATS have shared their experiences/abductions here and have been totally ignored.

There is so much info/proof out there and as with most stuff the skeptics hold everything at a stale mate.

Shame really

This just proves disclosure happens over time
and who better to reveal it.

Originally posted by jonnywhite
I'm surprised no one mentions Gordon Cooper. He was an astronaut too. He tells of an instance in the desert near Edwards Airforce Base in 1955 where a filming crew caught sight of a flying saucer that landed near the airfield. He said it had landing legs. And it zipped away. He said he packaged the film and sent it to the government for review and never heard anything of it again. It's a really bizarre account.

It's a famous story, Jonny, but you omit any mention of the testimony of the photographers themselves, of Cooper's boss, of the officer who did the initial Blue Book account, and of a world-class ufologist who investigated the case and testified before Congress about it in 1968.

How can you reach any conclusion about any case with only one person's testimony while ignoriong all the others? Don't be so helpless -- find OUT, then decide.

reply to post by pshea38


if you have a brain then how can you think the moon landings were hoaxed? Anybody who thinks that is a moron and just adds more wight to the 'all conspiracy theorists are nutters' argument.

sorry...

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I do not think theres many sceptics who would like to take him on even though he said he has no real evidence to back up his claims as yet, no doubt one day the gag will come off..

He's a classy and innovative guy, but when it comes to wild claims, you've got to double check them as with anybody else. Are you ready to believe Noah's Ark exists on Mt. Ararat because moonwalker Jim Irwin claimed it does? Or that Uri Geller can teleport lost items, because a moonwalker says he saw him do it?

edit on 14-2-2011 by JimOberg because: spelling

Translation: Other people are fakes or deluded, therefore Mitchell might be too.

Notice how this no more than fallacious reasoning, by appealing to ridicule Oberg creates a straw man rather than addressing the argument and claims of Mitchell.

If anything, Mitchell appears to be much of a better man than Oberg will ever be.

Originally posted by discostu123
reply to post by pshea38

 

if you have a brain then how can you think the moon landings were hoaxed? Anybody who thinks that is a moron and just adds more wight to the 'all conspiracy theorists are nutters' argument.

Yes, those who think the moon landings were hoaxed are nutters, I agree. It shows quite nicely how far disbelief can go.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
I find it unbelievable that a man of this stature, a true hero who has walked on the moon, can say these things, in full command of his faculties, and the world doesn't listen.

If an Apollo astronaut can say these things and have negligible effect, what hope is there for the rest of us...

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Simple really. They have been told for 98 years that the Fed Reserve is a bunch of private International Bankers screwing them royal and they don't believe it. It's been in front of Fed and Supreme court cases and they won't believe it.
If they can't believe hard facts in a court of law, why would they believe in little green men from Mars.