Plight of the honey bee sends shivers around globe

Its pretty old news in europe that the bees were being killed by the bayer pesticides.
This is just new news here in amerika.Where the goverment is in total lockstep with the desires of corporate sociopaths.
The insanity if it is that these people do not have one iota of fear over what they are unleashing.It is hard to fathom that some CEOs would gladly kill off much of humanity in a horrible prolonged suffering to a death of starvatin for mere corporate profits and bonuses all round.....
What do they think that will be left for their grandchildren?
Thats the trouble,they are too obsessed to think that far ahead......
This kind of insanity seems far more prevalent these days...like a lemming swarm we rush to our doom....

reply to post by Maxmars

Ah...very interesting, Maxmars. I had missed this thread or would have linked it in the OP.

The plot definitely does thicken. So this is saying that there is a naturally evolving defense by the plants. So to put it briefly, might it not be possible that the genetic modification of the plants could have accelerated or maybe exaggerated these traits? Is that close?

reply to post by stirling

Yes, of course we know it's old news about Bayer and Monsanto in some places in the world. Those who have been following this for the past decade or so saw those reports. I guess it's good that the theories are going more mainstream as far as awareness. Eventually people will see the connections. We hope.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


I believe that the gist of the piece was intended to deflect concerns that the 'bee problem' is a consequence of industry.

The study seems flawed in my perspective and, as I explain in that thread, might need some close scrutiny to notice the 'producers' of the data, and the premise it was based upon. Ultimately, you have to believe that nature would consider bees a 'threat' to flowering plants..... a particular notion that I am disinclined to believe.

reply to post by Maxmars

That's certainly an interesting angle, although it contradicts earlier beliefs that the proliferation, diversity and specificity in angiosperms was due in no small part to insect pollination. Many depend on insects [& particularly bees] for pollination so this development [if there is one] would be counter productive to the plant.

maybe the 'gods' (aka aliens) are having another crack at eliminating humans, since it didnt work in the flood.

some escaped...


(didnt enlil ask for them to be destroyed becuz they were making too much noise and giving him a headache?)


hence; poison the bees; poison the food supply; gmo and pesticide and additive the food supply; put soft metals in their food and enviro to make them nuts; e.g. mercury in vaccines and makeup; aluminium around food; drench the clothes in formaldehyde; the pillows in toxic fire retardant chemicals; give them toxic carcinogenic chemo drugs when they come to you with cancer from all the toxic crap in the environment (well chemo drug pharmacy dispensers have massively high rates of cancer from the chemo drugs they handle); put flouride in the water; lie to them about the causes of and cures for disease; lead them astray; make them fight each other in wars where they fund both sides so they dont look for their real enemy; tell them all their history is just myths and not to worry about it; brainwash them in school and uni not to think for themselves so they'll never question what they're told about the world; cover up anything interesting that's found in archeology that might lead them to suspect their myths are actually based on truth; ridicule the idea of ufos and aliens on earth so that they'll never imagine or guess who their real enemy is...

can't be long now; they're all fat sick obese and dying..

seriously, how hard is it to kill these humans without them suspecting a thing?

reply to post by Maxmars

Exactly. I had to read all that three times to finally get to the gist of it. I think that argument blows up in their face and lends more credence to the other side of the debate.

Bees are one of the most helpful insects on this planet, I would hate to see them go. I wonder how much of the honey we eat is contaminated. I hope buying locally produced honey makes a difference.

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History of the past repeats an echo matters not where in the furture without evolution you always are the forsaken. For the crimes of humanity are opon you.

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Wildeagle just posted this story from the UK. Sudden death of 20,000 bees in Toronto. These bees, however, died in an enclosed habitat in a museum. Seems it's a mystery as to why.

I hope this isn't off topic, but we have noticed a big drop in other species of bees in our area. We own an orchard which is usually abuzz with bumble bees, mason bees, yellow jackets as well as wild honeybees, but the last few years have been very quiet. The wasps seem to be the only insect thriving here. My dad was a beekeeper, my sister tried to pick up the practice but her swarms disappeared the first year. Dad investigated but found no obvious cause other than this new bee crisis.

reply to post by bloodnoir

Can you say which area you're in? That's very sad about your sister's hives and not being able to carry on the family tradition. There's nothing like local honey, and it's getting far too rare and dear these days. A person can't help but wonder that if they populate the world with genetically modified bees, will this alter the nutritional value of honey and royal jelly? Maybe that's exactly what's happening to the bees. Not a far-fetched theory.

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I am from west, central Illinois. I have been noticing that seed catalogs are actually selling Mason bees to try to replace honey bee labor. You cant replace honey bees for honey though. It is kind of eerie without the humm of worker bees near Apple picking time

reply to post by bloodnoir

Wow, how are the apple trees being pollinated? Wind? Other types of bees and insects? Is it just that there are no honey bees? If the change is that noticeable, it's concerning for sure. I hope they return.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


There are some mason bees, I am not sure if wasps or hornets would help pollinate the flowers. There are other insects that are attracted to the flowers. I am not sure if the wind would help with pollination or not. The lack of honey bees have affected the harvest in the last few years because we are producing less apples and all are smaller .

reply to post by bloodnoir

That's even sadder. Any sense as to whether they expect this to turn around? Less production and smaller fruit doesn't bode well, does it?

Oh great, here's a new genetically modified apple they're seeking approval for. www.reporternews.com...

More on this story: The Latest on Genetically Modified Foods: Beets and Apples

It probably won't brown, but what else is it going to do to the food chain they didn't anticipate?