The real terrorist was me - A US Soldier

Originally posted by ANClENT
This video brought tears to my eyes, this soldier speaks the truth, I wish many more were like him

We are here. I am here on ATS. I am a disabled vet and I say this warmongering must end!

Don't blame the troops or the young patriots who think they are doing the right thing going it. Blame the globalists who are using young men & women to accomplish their globalist agenda at the same time they bankrupt our great country.

Here's another CFR member telling it how it is:

Admiral Ward went on to explain that the one common objective of CFR members is "to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States... Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government," Ward added.

Jim Marrs, Rule by Secrecy p35


Speaking at the Sept. 23, 1994 United Nations Ambassadors' dinner, David Rockefeller remarked,

"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long." "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

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David Rockerfellers 2002 "Memoirs" ISBN 0-679-40588-7 Chapter 27 "Proud Internationalist" Page 405:
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world if you will. If thats the charge I stand guilty and I am proud of it."

1919 "The New World Order" by Samuel Zane Batten:

"...the new world rises upon our vision....We have vindicated the right of social control....There must be developed a national spirit of service....The natural resources of the nation must be socialized...The state must socialize every group...Men must learn to have world patriotism. World patriotism must be a faith....There is no more justice for the claim of absolute sovereignty on the part of a nation than on the part of an individual....The only alternative is World Federation...with a world parliament, an international court, and an international policy force...Men must have an international mind before there can be a world federation. They must see and affirm that above the nation is humanity. Internationalism must first be a religion before it can be a reality and a system."

1962 , Nelson Rockerfeller, "The Future of Federalism"

the nation-state is becoming less and less competent to perform its international political tasks...These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order...Sooner perhaps than we may realize...there will evolve the bases for a federal structure of the free world.

& on and on.... this is the PUBLISHED agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and Trilateral Commission agenda!!!

My son approached me last week to inform me that he is interested in joining the Marine's after he completes his sophomore year. After my "deer in the headlights" look left my face, I slowly walked over to him, slapped him on the back of the head and told him to snap out of it. That was the first and hopefully the last time I will ever have to physically touch my son in anger. Maybe some of the vets posting can explain to me why an intelligent, career oriented, straight A student would suddenly want to give his life away for a cause that does not even exist. He seems to have forgotten all of the conversations we have had over the years about the deception governments and politicians have tried to hammer into our psyche that war=peace. There is absolutely no logic in his thinking. I could MAYBE accept him joining as an officer after graduating.

Originally posted by Erica1631
I could MAYBE accept him joining as an officer after graduating.

What, you have some sort of problem with your son being an enlisted swine?

And you think that Marine officers don't lead from the front? Just as much, if not more, danger for them as the rest of the guys in the platoon he's leading.

If the kid wants to join the Corps, good on him.

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I suggest Airforce Officer after he graduates. I wish I had gone airforce instead of army. The quality of life really does more than make up for the extra pay Army gives.

We need patriotic men and women in all branches. It is those patriots who swear to uphold the constitution that will help check these globalists who want to destroy our nation!

Originally posted by Erica1631
My son approached me last week to inform me that he is interested in joining the Marine's after he completes his sophomore year.

Did you ask him why he was interested in joining the service before you carried out the next act?

I slowly walked over to him, slapped him on the back of the head...

That was the first and hopefully the last time I will ever have to physically touch my son in anger.

Maybe some of the vets posting can explain to me why an intelligent, career oriented, straight A student would suddenly want to....

Have you tried discussing this with him instead of striking your son?
He may have legitimate reasons from his perspective. I'd talk to him and not ask online for others opinions when your own son is in the home there with you...

I could MAYBE accept him joining as an officer after graduating.

That's been a major part of the problem in the past...[Know nothing brass with no combat experience directing traffic getting others killed due to their lack of experience....]

No offense

I know a LOT of my former Battles and I have said the same things that were said in the video. The question really comes down to this:

With all this corruption in the gov't, who is going to actually stand up against it? I can't, I am one man. If I had a couple thousand standing behind me, sure... then I COULD sound my voice. This guy has a voice that was able to reach a few... we need to reach millions! But how? Who knows how we can do this, how we can accomplish the restructuring of the US government? I do not... but I would be willing to assist people that had the ability. I am not a scholar, but I am smart; I am a working man. I was a soldier, I am an American, I will always be a patriot!

Teach us how to afflict change into the world, and we will. We just need others to honestly join with us in order to make an impact.

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by Erica1631
I could MAYBE accept him joining as an officer after graduating.

What, you have some sort of problem with your son being an enlisted swine?

And you think that Marine officers don't lead from the front? Just as much, if not more, danger for them as the rest of the guys in the platoon he's leading.

If the kid wants to join the Corps, good on him.

I'm going to cool off for awhile before I regret replying to your reply, Mr. Porn Star. For your information, my son is not a kid, he is a man.

Hopefully, not a lesson learned too late [for you] it will be interesting to see what he decides to do after your reaction, but I suspect that may be the last time your son will be coming to you to discuss critical decisions, affecting his future...

Originally posted by Erica1631
I slowly walked over to him, slapped him on the back of the head and told him to snap out of it. That was the first and hopefully the last time I will ever have to physically touch my son in anger.

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by nightbringr

 

Mandate?? Were they FORCED to go there?
And WHO chose the spot really??

You seem to make the treatment of the Palistinians sound a lot like the treatment of the Jews in the past..
Therefore wouldn't you expect the Jews to sympathise with their plight instead of fencing them in and bombing them?

Of course. Many reasonable jews do sympathise with the plight of the Palestinians, as i do as well.

That being said, the amount of anger directed at the jews is grossly disproportionate to what they have done.

I understand the anger, i really do. If someone invaded my country i would fight too if i was not a family man. But enough is enough. Its time for both parties to come to the table and discuss things honestly. Hamas and Hezbollah do not make this easy though. I respect their right as freedom fighters to try and liberate their country, but refusing to ever retract their promises of wiping out the Israelis does not promote good faith in any kind of discourse.

And the term "Zionist" simply means they want a homeland and the right to determine their own future. An honorable and noble goal for any ethnic group without a home of their own.

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If you feel bad about these things you've done back there, this proves you are one of the good people.

Realize you have been a pawn in a big murderous chess game,o this was not much your "fault", since you were deceived and submitted into doing these things. The real criminals are the ones orchestrating these wars and sending people to the mass graves. They have to be held accountable for their plotting against mankind, even though it's a vain hope...

...or a social war plan?

Still always worth denouncing these war profiteers publicly... that's the least to do.

As an American soldier with 42 months in Iraq (4 trips), I had to reply to a few things.

To call an American soldier a terrorists is not even close to reality. A terrorist is someone that instills terror to accomplish a goal.

I have built schools, shelters for abused women, hospitals, and homes for the homeless. I have allowed children to smile and play in a neighborhood free of fear. I have given hope to a people who had spent thier entire lives in fear. In a nutshell I have helped those who were unable to help themselves.

That is the reason I joined the army 19 years ago. I did not join for college money, or to have a job, or any other reason. I joined to help the helpless, regardless of what country they are in.

Many soldiers of all branches are being diagnosed with PTSD. It's a fact of life and a harsh reality to deal with. Talking about it is the number one tool to heal (or so I'm told). However, to take glory in your kills and then to question another soldiers combat experience based on MOS, to me seems more like a "combat junkie" than a PTSD "victim". "For he today that sheds his blood with me, shall be my brother...." words can be a powerful tool.

Better days,

Originally posted by jonnywhite

If you feel the war is right and you're over there, you're a hero in my eyes.

No, if you feel the war is right then you're wrong? Not a #ing hero?

Jeez I can't believe it still takes a genius to work out that ONE OF THE MOST OBJECTIVE TRUTHS we have is that HURTING PEOPLE IS NOT OK; isn't that why half of us are here?

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This is wonderful to hear. One of the things that concern me is how all these soldiers are going to react when brought back into everyday life. You have a guy whose had 4 or 5 deployments, how is he going to be when he gets back after years of being around that kind of environment. The gentleman speaking gives me hope that maybe more people than I realize are aware of the true nature of the endless war.
Lastly, and I want to add this because hearing this speech got me thinking about it, I am thankful everyday that I'm not there. After 9/11, enlistment was high. My father is a Korean war vet and always pushed my to join the military. I finally did, mostly to make him proud. It was all done and I was sent to basic training in Oklahoma. After a few weeks I ran into a problem. When I was younger, I made some poor decisions regarding tattoos, including one that was partially on my neck. 1/16 of an inch could be seen in a class A uniform. My recruiter, who reminded me of a used car salesman, said he got it all straightened for me. He however did not get it handled and a few weeks into basic, I was sent home. Enlistment was a lot higher then, and I doubt they'd send me home for something like that now. At the time I was crushed. I had really enjoyed myself so far, and when I got home my father wouldn't speak to me. It was a pretty horrible experience at the time, but years later, seeing what has happened since then, I am so thankful for that tattoo. I'm not bashing the military. These are just my personal feelings, and I personally feel I could not have handled it. To go through those things and come out with some perspective like this guy has is absolutely amazing. Stronger man than I am.

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He was surely watching millitary commercials lately or someone of his friends busted that false soldier's men adrenalin in him .I recommend you to have a nice long talk with you son on this subject.

Originally posted by LadySkadi
Hopefully, not a lesson learned too late [for you] it will be interesting to see what he decides to do after your reaction, but I suspect that may be the last time your son will be coming to you to discuss critical decisions, affecting his future...

Originally posted by Erica1631
I slowly walked over to him, slapped him on the back of the head and told him to snap out of it. That was the first and hopefully the last time I will ever have to physically touch my son in anger.

edit on 11-2-2011 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)

I can tell you what happened afterwards. He held me while I had a good cry. We are very close. Always have been. He knows that ultimately I will support him in whatever career he chooses, but as a mother, fear has gripped me due to the fact that he is joining during a time our country is involved in two wars.

Originally posted by Erica1631
My son approached me last week to inform me that he is interested in joining the Marine's after he completes his sophomore year. After my "deer in the headlights" look left my face, I slowly walked over to him, slapped him on the back of the head and told him to snap out of it. That was the first and hopefully the last time I will ever have to physically touch my son in anger. Maybe some of the vets posting can explain to me why an intelligent, career oriented, straight A student would suddenly want to give his life away for a cause that does not even exist. He seems to have forgotten all of the conversations we have had over the years about the deception governments and politicians have tried to hammer into our psyche that war=peace. There is absolutely no logic in his thinking. I could MAYBE accept him joining as an officer after graduating.

Your son will want to do what he wants to do, whether you like it or not. Reacting angrily and slapping him (!) will quite possibly make him want to do it even more, not to mention damage your relationship with him.

From your post, it appears that you do not want him to join the forces because it is contrary to your beliefs, and not predominantly because you fear for his safety or other such “ordinary concerns”. What you are essentially trying to do and have done "over the years", clearly unsuccessfully, is to brainwash your son into your way of thinking instead of allowing him to be his own person. I think that is disgusting.

I would recommend that you quit now and support your son with whatever he wants to do, instead of distancing yourself from him.

edit: Your post above was posted while I was writing and it would have changed mine slightly if I had read it beforehand but I will leave mine as it is anyway.

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That's good news. Would hate to have heard the lines of communication got shut down... You may fear his decision, but emotional blackmail (not suggesting intentional) won't change the situation, which is that it's ultimately his decision (as you know). The most important thing you can do (IMHO) is to ask the questions that he needs to answer such that HE (not you) understands why he wants to join and that the decision is right for him, even if it's not right for you... Peace to you both.

Originally posted by ballsdeep

Originally posted by jonnywhite

If you feel the war is right and you're over there, you're a hero in my eyes.

No, if you feel the war is right then you're wrong? Not a #ing hero?

Jeez I can't believe it still takes a genius to work out that ONE OF THE MOST OBJECTIVE TRUTHS we have is that HURTING PEOPLE IS NOT OK; isn't that why half of us are here?

Attitudes that create blanket statements like that are one of the reasons I decided some time ago to just hunker down here and look out after my own. I decided that folks with that attitude could just hurt people for themselves, or get eaten by them if they didn't. Not my problem either way any more.

Spit at me enough, and I'll be a gentleman and just go away, let ya handle yer own messes.

I won't fight the NWO for ya, either, or whatever your boogey man of the day is. Yer on yer own.

Originally posted by Erica1631
I'm going to cool off for awhile before I regret replying to your reply, Mr. Porn Star. For your information, my son is not a kid, he is a man.

That's fantastic. Let the MAN make his own decisions on what he wants for a career. Unless you have some sort of insight into the USMC (like a former Marine?).

Originally posted by Ghandi
A short speech from a US soldier after serving over seas. He speaks about his experience with the war and how he really feels about what is going on. It is a sad story. More people in the military need to wake up to this. And no, I am not "against the troops", I'm against the people who deploy them. And so is this guy.

'Gee', thanks republicans, fox news ,and that evil George bush, and all there supporters that sat in there nice house and leather furniture, and had the nerve to even open there lil pie holes, thinking they had the right to say.

'I support the troops'
'I think they should go to Iraq'
'they are dying for our country'
'they should feel good, its for a good cause'
'they died for this country'
' they died for freedom'
I hate people like that, people that swear the land and writing on a piece of paper is more important then a life, a single chance at life to get a chance to live, and they have to die over a lie, and then even more shameless, ‘theres no honor in what they did over a lie’ ,a lie that was caused by republican, now all those that took a life, will burn in hell because of a republicans lie, and all that had the nerve in life, to put you lil worthless opinions in to the matter ‘it was pointless‘, as if ‘LIFE’ > ‘Time’ and ‘God ‘,cared what the hell you thought when it came to taken the very breath, out of something he created ,one of his kids!

'Evil has no shame in what it does, or the people it creates to do its bidding'

I’m glad when judgment day comes, god wont ask me why I supported the war ,loll, I had nothing to do with that decision.
Guess what I’m trying to say is ‘With out all the different words that are in this world to mask what’s right and what’s wrong’

‘Only a good human from the purity of god would never Condon killing’>
and then you have those humans,’ that put flags’ on a pure and honest post, a post that should letterly be, flag free, but like I said earlier.

'Evil has no shame in what it does, or the people it creates to do its bidding'
Period .