'War criminal!': Ron Paul backers crash Cheney-Rumsfeld reunion

reply to post by Aggie Man


But the right is what matters. Cheney-rumsfield they both claim to be from the right. Just like people wanting to stop President obama from getting another term his greatest threat would be people from the left. just like with that video of trump saying ron paul can;t get elected. They was a mixed reaction and I am guessing that was a conservative crowd.

So if you can create that wow factor in the lock step mind control main stream republican people, is that not good. Get them saying " wow there are republicans that don;t like cheney-rumsfield"

reply to post by Malcram


Lol I love it when people think they know what their rights are. You have freedom of speech in Public, not on private property, which is where this took place.

Before chastising me about my comment, maybe you should actually understand how your rights work.

Ignorance must really be bliss to those who think they know what the law is. I would reccomend that before you decide to go after people and accuse them of violating the law, that the people should first understand and know what the law actually is. It does nothing but make them look like asses when they accuse a person of violating the law while at the same time violating the law themselves.

We could always take a look at the road not taken, which would be electing a Democrat into office instead of Bush. Not only would we of still had the terrorist attack, the flip side is we wouldnt have any military casulties. The reason for that is Gore would still most likely be dicking around with China, offering them satellite technology to get them to return our airmen when their plane hit ours in international waters / airspace.

I also find it hillarious that you guys have no issues calling Bush Cheny and Rumsfeld war criminals, yet you remain quiet when other countries are in the same category.

If Clinton had balls, instead of getting them sucked on in the oval, Bin Laden would be dead by now. Good thing Clinton notified pakistan government when he launched the cruise missile attack. Good ole pakistani ISI had our backs on that one.

At least they had the courage to act. Its something Democrats / liberal panzies need to learn how to do. The world is not a safe place. In case you did not notice when 3k people died on 9/11 they werent all republicans.

Ironic that it took Republicans to act while everyone else looked for a PC term to use while hugging our enemies.

The Cherry on the parfait though is the fact that Obama and his crew picked up where Bush Cheney and Rumsfeld left off. Care to comment on that, or is this just a I hate Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld thread?

Do I need to explain this further with links.. I am sure I can get a little more pissy in my response to match yours.

Lemme know.

Originally posted by American-philosopher
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

So if you can create that wow factor in the lock step mind control main stream republican people, is that not good. Get them saying " wow there are republicans that don;t like cheney-rumsfield"

Yeah, they disapproved of Rumsfeld and Cheney, but not enough to fore go paying the ticket price of admission. Basically, what they did was financially support the cause, then condemn it for the sheep in front of the media....talk about playing both sides

reply to post by Aggie Man


I believe Ron Paul was speaking. I don't think they payed just to go scream war criminal. Although ron paul did put out a nice letter a few days ago, to his supporters. Saying to respect everyone there and not do what that person did.

reply to post by Aggie Man


I dont know. I think the price of admission would be worth getting the press. Thats a lot of bang for your buck.

And as for the free speech argument, I personally think that to compare breaking a law by speaking freely where you are not legally allowed to, is minor compared to being responsible for the slaughter of innocent Iraqis and Americans.

All crimes are not created equal, are they?

Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by American-philosopher
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

So if you can create that wow factor in the lock step mind control main stream republican people, is that not good. Get them saying " wow there are republicans that don;t like cheney-rumsfield"

Yeah, they disapproved of Rumsfeld and Cheney, but not enough to fore go paying the ticket price of admission. Basically, what they did was financially support the cause, then condemn it for the sheep in front of the media....talk about playing both sides

Its a good way to get hit by traffic from both directions....

The ironies abound...

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

I dont know. I think the price of admission would be worth getting the press. Thats a lot of bang for your buck.

Yeah, you are right. They got a damn good bit for their money....a barely audible comment, followed by ....the continuation of the ceremony. Money well spent!

reply to post by Aggie Man


So how are the good conservatives the peoploe that are awake supposed to operate are they supposed to go putside the party?? I think it is good to go inside the system and take it over from within

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

I believe Ron Paul was speaking. I don't think they payed just to go scream war criminal. Although ron paul did put out a nice letter a few days ago, to his supporters. Saying to respect everyone there and not do what that person did.

What amazes me even more is the fact that the "hero", the "chosen one" , the "savior" Ron Paul put good taste aside; and for what? A chance to campaign? Or did he condemn Rumsfeld/Cheney too? If he did, then I retract. I doubt I will be retracting though.

Ron Paul for President in 2012.

No Electronic Voting Machines.

Paper ballots only.

Dicky Cheney/Rumsfeld rot in your self created hell. Mr Trump, you too.

Code pink, I love you.

peace

s&f

Originally posted by vermonster
Ron Paul for President in 2012.

No Electronic Voting Machines.

Paper ballots only.

Dicky Cheney/Rumsfeld rot in your self created hell. Mr Trump, you too.

Code pink, I love you.

peace

s&f

You just summed up my argument..

Thank you.

Originally posted by American-philosopher
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

So how are the good conservatives the peoploe that are awake supposed to operate are they supposed to go putside the party?? I think it is good to go inside the system and take it over from within

If your numbers are strong, then you don't "take over"; rather, you start anew. Paint this how you wish, but the picture is narrow when you paint while wearing blinders.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Act against WHAT?

Brother, TELL ME you are not still asleep enough to believe the fairy tale of endless lies these criminals told to FORCE us into the Iraq invasion. I can't BELIEVE you are even BEGINNING to defend these parthologically lieing, torture approving, mass-murdering criminals. And yes---Obama is EVERY bit as guilty for CONTINUING on these crimes against humanity. And yes---They ALL should be held accountable. This ain't partisan BS from my end---We went into Iraq based on NOTHING but LIES, and we have DEVASTATED their country and MURDERED tens of thousands of innocent people on nothing but these peoples LIES.

reply to post by DevilJin

That video clip was great!!!!!!!!! I almost fell off my chair watching that women yelling in his face "war criminal." These are the true patriots in America! They won't be silenced, and they take personal risks to point out injustices where others just talk about it behind closed doors. All I have to say is that was awesome! Great find and thanks for sharing. There's still hope that these b##tards will eventually be prosecuted. (Hopefully before they punch out).

reply to post by Aggie Man


Not really understanding that post about Ron Paul can you please rephrase it? (although with your use of " " 's I can see that you obviously don't like him.

reply to post by Aggie Man


Barely audible? I can hear it all the way over here.

Its on the net. Its being bickered over on forums. Im guessing thats what the goal was.

reply to post by Malcram

You realize that freedom of speech isn't (yet) against the law, right?

I do, but apparently the dubers that felt the need to bleat out aren't aware of it.

It's perfectly legal to shout war criminal, just as it's legal for that roomful of butt kissing amoral morons to whoop and cheer when a mass murdering lying psycho walks into the room.

I put the protesters in the same category as the members of the Westboro Baptist Church.You know them..the Phelps Gang. They use the same argument when they protest at funerals. What they do is not illegal, it just smells like a sack of manure.

And did someone say these were Ron Paul backers?:shk: You mean the same Ron Paul that accepts campaign donations from white supremacists?

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

Not really understanding that post about Ron Paul can you please rephrase it? (although with your use of " " 's I can see that you obviously don't like him.

edit on 10-2-2011 by mayabong because: (no reason given)

I like Ron Paul; however, I would not vote for him. If I did, then it would be a wasted vote . That dude is older than dirt, almost. If elected, he would be the 9th president to die in office. I use the "" because many see him as the solution. Perhaps, if he groomed someone with youth, then I could vote for the younger version of RP (not Rand though...he is a phony IMO). But, I will not vote for him. Nor will I wish him luck in an election; in which, actuarily, he will not survive his term.

P.S. Look for my upcoming thread on "why the hell would anyone want to be POTUS"; given a 75% survival rate of sitting presidents....it will be entertaining; at least from an insurance perspective

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

Barely audible? I can hear it all the way over here.

Where's that? Leaning in close to your computer speakers?

Its on the net. Its being bickered over on forums. Im guessing thats what the goal was.

100 forums, 10 to 20 participants each.....MY GOD, that's 1000 to 2000 people that are discussing it....and that's being generous.

P.S. Are you not the same person that told me in another thread yesterday that social media had no impact on public opinion....or something to that affect. I will find it and quote it for posterity.

EDIT: here it is:

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by Aggie Man
I honestly believe that, with the social media today, Americans are very well in touch with how everyone else feels about our government, yet there are no mass protests effectively shutting down the country.

Americans barely look at strangers. Much less talk to them. All that social media actually acts to isolate people even further. Because they can ignore everyone around them, and connect with the same small number of people. And one of the beautiful things about the illusion of a free press, is that you arent even aware you should be looking for other information.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Trump's a jerk, and he thinks he can be elected? He's part of the elite and corporate America that's hijacking this country from the people. We've already had a corporate oil administration that catered to the oil industry, trampled on the constitution and started two wars for their own greedy benefit. He won't be any different. He's using the same republican playbook to try to influence people that Ron Paul is insignificant and unable to be electable. I think more people have realized now they made a big mistake not electing Ron Paul in 2008.