Hackers Anonymous message to the United States Government! (Regarding Egypt)

reply to post by TechUnique


Amen to that and thumbs up

reply to post by burntheships


WOW Burntheships,your awesome,great link. I have already pretty much assumed these things but that link sheds a whole new light on the matter.

I might add I suspect these anons behind this Egypt thing and other ops are not regular 4chan anons but something far more sophisticated than the usual 4chan /b/ surfer. I know I have experience with them,these guys are top shelf not script kiddies.

tl;dr

I dunno if it's already been mentioned but anonymous are a bunch of people (mainly teenagers) who post on chansites and ultimately have no idea who each other are (hence, anon). It is my opinion that someone made this video by themselves, without consulting, or acquiring the input of any other entity. That's the beauty of anon, it is a one-man legion; by existing in such a fashion they lose a lot of the power that an organization with a face is able to effect, it's been a while since I visited 4chan though, perhaps things are different..

EDIT - saw the post above mine just then, why would they associate themselves with /b/tards if they're more sophisticated than that?

reply to post by christina-66


Since when does a dictator not instantly quash an uprising with force, this is unprecedented!
One has to ask the question why would a leader just sit back and lose everything without a fight if it wasnt organised?

reply to post by ballsdeep


Because its a perfect cover they most definantly are not /b/ tards,not taking anything away from their abilities neither. These guys are using anon as cover, its esoteric, oh they may well be anon if you can describe anon but then again they are not.

reply to post by nickoli


...They lose so much credibility this way though, especially with normal people watching fox and cnn; the ptb and the msm don't even have to give this video or any action it provokes a second thought seeing as they've already got the support of most people in getting 'anon' to shut the # up by whatever means.

Remember anon is associated with high school massacres, bomb threats, murders, hacking, pretty much any deplorable action anyone who has ever posted on 4chan has ever committed; using anon as a guise seems stupid to me if 'they're' expecting to be taken seriously.

reply to post by TechUnique


These guys aren't joking around are they? They've outright decided to start to influence politics in general. From knocking out Paypal, to hacking homeland security, down to influencing world politics. Sounds like the world Governments are going to have make decisions with the specter of Anonymous eyes on every move they make.

Now that's what I call "Checks and balances."

reply to post by TechUnique


I am a UK citizen and I am worried about the UK right now.

If there is going to be a One World Government, I'm not sure that we are invited...

ETA: I am so gullible sometimes... After some thought, it is clear to me that all the snidiness between countries at the moment is part of the game. Someone is pulling the strings.

reply to post by nickoli


As you suspected.

Its a deeper rabbit hole than most are willing to admit...
or care to know about.

www.information-age.com...

It actually makes a lot of sense, if you follow.

reply to post by ballsdeep


Bomb threats and high school massacres?

That's interesting, because that's honestly the FIRST time I have EVER heard anything even remotely like that about them. Are you sure that these horrors that have been "attributed" to them was actually "done" by them? All it takes is for some nitwit to do something wrong and falsely claim that they were affiliated with "Anonymous," and then, not only do they have a "name" and recognition, but, authorities use that as a way to demonize them. There's also the idea that members of our press and government outright LIE about events and then falsely blame these events on "Anonymous." Believe me friend...it wouldn't be the first time.

Originally posted by davespanners
Should the US government keep their noses out of Egypt, Yes, does it have anything to do with a bunch of "hackers" from a rather silly web site. No

Sorry but what the USA does around the world effects everyone and so their foreign policy is everyones business. If a group of hackers want to promote freedom and democracy then good for them. I find it strange you say the USA should keep it's nose out of Egypt and then laugh at people trying to stop the USA from doing just that.

Go anonymous!

Originally posted by Qcuailon
reply to post by ballsdeep

 

Bomb threats and high school massacres?

That's interesting, because that's honestly the FIRST time I have EVER heard anything even remotely like that about them. Are you sure that these horrors that have been "attributed" to them was actually "done" by them? All it takes is for some nitwit to do something wrong and falsely claim that they were affiliated with "Anonymous," and then, not only do they have a "name" and recognition, but, authorities use that as a way to demonize them. There's also the idea that members of our press and government outright LIE about events and then falsely blame these events on "Anonymous." Believe me friend...it wouldn't be the first time.

Yeah I know that just as well as you do...that was my entire point; anon's rep is already in tatters as far as the public goes, a mother of 4 isn't gonna want college shooters fighting for her offspring's freedom, in her eyes, their agenda has to be worse than the government's.

Obviously anon has not orchestrated any of these crimes as a body (except maybe the pp/mstrcrd attacks), but that's irrelevant - these actions are already associated with 'them' whether 'they' like it or not.

reply to post by davespanners


Ridiculous?

Oh, I get it. This is how you decide to treat those who are doing their best to represent the interest of the proletariat and the people themselves...I.E. YOU.

Its obvious that you don't have the balls to do it, but, you'll sit here and criticize someone who does...WHY? Absolutely amazing when I see "armchair" specialists who do nothing more than to tear down the efforts of others, who are qualified only by the illusions of grandeur of their own minds. However, just keep in mind, I am more than positive that there are probably Anon members on this site. If I were you, I really wouldn't be slandering them for no particular reason. I know that I wouldn't whether I agreed or disagreed with their cause. I'd be too scared they'd hack my butt and turn my files into mush. Its kind've like walking into a room full of Navy Seals and attempting to start of fight while you're really, really drunk. Simply stupid.

reply to post by skitzspiricy

I believe I know who one of the originators of this " Anonymous" is. About four years ago after completing and following an online "puzzle" game I was told one I was one of a few people (1000) who would receive a document called "The New World Order Handbook." It was sent to me in a .pdf and while it was very well put together and quite detailed, it seemed very.........well, silly to be honest. Although, I still follow the individual on the social networks and their websites and they are very well informed and obviously have a lot of resources to be able to keep up what exactly this person ( I actually believe them to be multiple people) do. They produce a lot of content online and I'm sure they must spend #loads of time on it. Would seem like a waste of precious time just to mess with people. Also they seem to be connected to some pretty influential or at least very well positioned and wealthy people. Anyone who wants a point, possibly in the right direction, should check this person out. Message me and I will decide to show you this individual.

reply to post by TechUnique


Wow, I bet TPTB are shaking in their shiny expensive shoes!

Why would people in control of War's, murdering, and deception give two donkey poos about the people?
Remember if the plan is to reduce world population, their probably sitting with their feet up watching and saying "well at least we don't have to stage another bombing!"

Power is not always with the people, it's with the people in power!

Now forgive me if I'm wrong, but what exactly are they threatening to do??
Cause a revolution?
For not helping another country?

Where was the revolution when we began invading other countries?

I think their giving way too much credit to the people in power by assuming they care about how the egyption people respect them, and stating the values they "claim" to stand for, as if they obide by them.

"Helping it strip it's citizens of their basic human rights"

Tell me? What is the situation in America at the moment? How many rights (privilages according to George Carlin) are being taken these days? And why don't Anon care about this?

Ok I'm done ranting....

reply to post by Qcuailon

This is how you decide to treat those who are doing their best to represent the interest of the proletariat and the people themselves
...
I am more than positive that there are probably Anon members on this site. If I were you, I really wouldn't be slandering them for no particular reason. I know that I wouldn't whether I agreed or disagreed with their cause. I'd be too scared they'd hack my butt and turn my files into mush.

So they are doing their best to represent us...but we should FEAR THEM???


LOL....you guys crack me up.

......and your ignorance is disturbing, If you are using an online server proxy, they delete your log files as per a legal agreement when you sign up with the companies. There are real "hackers" out there that offer online services in pursuit of their "everyone owns the internet" theory and they make sure your tracks are covered for you. It costs you a monthly payment but it gets done. They delete (automatically) the log files and DHCP timestamps and they do a DOD security wipe to ensure there is no recovery. There are private VPN services that are even faster considering bandwidth using strong encryption methods such as SSL/TLS and do the same as the previous. Don't try to exalt yourself over someone here who actually knows how the internet works. You will become now the foolish one. I know a couple of these guys and I have seen them at work. Go learn something new.

edit on 10-2-2011 by Phenomium because: (no reason given)

#1> When you have to PAY for it, you leave traces behind... as much as you think those are secure you MIGHT want to... paypals/credit card is never good... and when you know s*** about hacking you learn not to trust just anybody's stuff... when the next 10-25 years of your life depends on a dude saying he's the "3l33t3 h4x04 sh1zn1t..." if you can't to it yourself... you don't do it at all... plain and simple...

#2> Before you REACH the proxy you go through in average 20 nodes... WHICH anyone can hack into and sniff anything that can go through... OR government can request the info with a subpoena... What good is your proxy server here???

#3> Proxy server can be miss-configured even by the best admin errors happen all the time... as SQUID proxy can leak IP's if x-forwarding is added to squid.conf... TOR proxy is knows to leak... WEB server can be forced to leak IP's... OR you can exploit the browser being used itself to push forward the IP

4>DHCP timestamp... do you actually even have a clue of what DHCP is or you just googled stuff quickly to try to sound intelligent??? DHCP as in "Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol" is a daemon running that provide DHCP lease containing IP/DNS/GW.... that allows you to be lazy and not have to configure it manually on a WAN/LAN network which has anything to do with what you think it does...

5> when you connect to a proxy all it does is port forward you in the direction you chose to your never allocated an IP... a simple version of a 2 way proxy that would point at a straight host would be done on a linux box with this command [socat TCP-LISTEN:sumport, fork TCP: sumaddress.com:sumport] which would wait on a port and forward you to the address and port you've pre-defined... at NO point your being assigned an IP the only reason why they see this IP at the destination node is because they see the IP of where the data come from which is the node your going through... no DHCP here man... LOL

6> SSL has been cracked... [www.worldnewschannel.info...] lets assume your only speaking of WEB proxies here... another thing is you can craft packets/inject code in the data stream to exploits the browser your using and force it to reply information you wouldn't want it to... or force it to reverse connect back to you without going through the proxy which would give away your IP right away.

7> you can even force network discovery beyond firewalls by simple UDP datagram/TTL packet manipulation/injection... to force errors on the network and the host past the firewalls will start spiting errors your way revealing data/IP address that otherwise should of been not accessable...

8>DOD wipe right??? LOL... you MUST be talking about tools that says "DOD Standard drive wiper"... which just write/overwrite/erase and start over again thousands of times hoping to circumvent any forensic attack from recovering the data... well SORRY dude... Class 3 forensic attack such as magnetic force microscopy WILL get it back NO MATTER what... you can DOD wipe it until it starts smoking... it can be put back together its just a matter of money... MFM forensic is very expensive... But the funds are always allocated when you tick off the wrong people...

and finaly... I didn't try to exalt myself above anybody I've been in cyber-security business for the last 12 years, I'm currently working for one of Canada's major ISP, I administrate linux servers and I was going to start my own small security firm around here but I was offered something for the government in Can pertaining to cyber security/digital forensic they are creating a team of talented individuals in anticipation of an certain "upcoming bill" that they seem to believe will pass... anyways I can't really talk about it I signed a NDF and I'm waiting to know if I passed the TS clearance so I better shut up in the meantime I'm cleared to talk more about it... All I wanted to do was to let you know that you were foolish to believe a proxy would magically make you 100% safe... cuz they don't... never did... never will they only slow things down and make it a bit harder... but they definitely don't protect you as well as you think they do...

But if you don't believe me be by guess... like Barney in "How I Met Your Mother" would say.... "Proxy up!"

ps: "real hackers" won't make you pay for it... they give it away for free because we/they are motivated by the intellectual challenge... Linus Torvalds is a "real" hacker... he created Linux the best operating system out there and gave it to the world...

I consider myself a CT but it is a mine field... Someone decided to do something productive and most conspiracy theorists always see a catch. They must be cointel pro, zomg.

I am not saying that Anon is genuine or not because I honestly don't know. However, it does seem that some people are so bloody cynical, they refuse to believe that someone may actually be taking a stand against the wrong 'uns that be...

The Wikileaks speculation springs to mind, I can't think why.

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by kcfusion

 

In case you did not realize, which obvioulsy you did not....

Wikipedia does contain footnotes, and in many of them are hyperlinks to the actual news stories,

As in this one....

a group calling itself Anonymous launched a viral No Cussing Sucks campaign across the Web.

On sites that seemed to vanish as quickly as they appeared, they posted Hatch’s name, photo and contact information and urged people to harass him.

McKay’s father, Brent Hatch, said his son had received more than 22,000 e-mails in fewer than two weeks.

“We are conducting an investigation at this time, but I’m not able to talk about what we’re doing,” South Pasadena police Capt. Richard Kowaltschuk said.

He did say detectives were examining the e-mails, adding, “If someone threatens your life that is a violation of the law, whether it’s done verbally or over the Internet.”

www.vcstar.com...

Sorry if this wasn't made clear but do you have a source with anonymous saying they did this? Normally they will make a statement of some sort to say why they did it? Is there a link for this statement if so then please link! Not from 4chan from Anonymous please! I'm sure there is protocols within the top levels of anonymous their name can't be paraded around with every hackers little whim?

Many props to anonymous! I support them and their cyber war 110%! I'd be more than happy to lend my computer skills to them. It's about time this cyber war went full tilt and any and all with programming and script knowledge started to attack tptb. We the people have the power and need to execute it.