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Originally posted by Akragon
Im not saying turn our backs on the world... Im saying each individual needs to understand himself. There will always be starving people and less fortunate. This is because of the governments and leaders we have...If everyone completely ignored our leaders they would have nothing to lead. If we all worked together and helped each other to prosper, there would be no need for governments or religions to oppress its people. IF we shared ideas about what God is as opposed to argueing about what God isn't or even if he exists.....one less problem.
Originally posted by Akragon
Karma works very logically, its a perfect system as are all Gods creations from the smallest organisim to the most spectacular solarsystems. People are starving and dying but this is how it must be...this is their debt they must pay for whatever reason. Whatever they did in their past incarnations landed them in unfortunate circumstances. Thats life...
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by trekwebmaster
To be honest, if you want to see the "anti-christ," inquire within.
Inside that darkness between the "duality" of man, exists goodness and evil.
You cannot change this fact; but only accept it "as" the "knowledge" or "enlightenment of a moment" which provides a "release" of the emotional "wrapper" whereby the information came. To carry around empty "wrappers" bankrupts the soul and offers no nourishment when the information is discarded or avoided. This is the very "seed" of denial.
I disagree that there is a duality of Man my friend. This is just glossing over what we have done to this world. I have had the privledge to walk with many who would be considered "Dark" in this life. I myself have been to the edge of knifing a man in the back over a short bag of weed. I went there to see why people go there. I have had prostitutes for Girl friends, drug dealers as best friends, skin heads, thieves, murderers, all manner of people I welcomed as my friends, walked with them through hell, and learned what path lead them to their choices.
It isn't a battle of "Light" and "Dark" my friend. That is an illusion. There is no DARK.
The people I walked with all had good hearts that from the time they were born had been trampled on. They had been hurt in ways most would never dream was possible. They battle demons that most would break down and give up over. They are hurting and we as a society have turned our backs on them. WE have judged them evil and not worth our time to help. The evil we see in them is our own evil. The evil that causes us to see them as something other than a Child of God. God is everywhere, and God is GOOD.
There is no evil in this world. We are all just hurt, very very hurt. We cannot tell each other we love each other. We cannot lend a hand to each other. We are too afraid of each other. I tell you we are BETTER than just accepting this. We CAN LOVE.
There is no evil. There is only Good and the good is suffering.
All the sinners are saints in my book.
With Love,
Your Brother
But now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, unless I speak to you either by way of revelation, or of knowledge, or of prophesying, or of teaching?
What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
But if a revelation be made to another sitting by, let the first keep silence. I must needs glory, though it is not expedient but I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. And by reason of the exceeding greatness of the revelations, that I should not be exalted overmuch, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, that I should not be exalted overmuch.
For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but [it came to me] through revelation of Jesus Christ. And I went up by revelation and I laid before them the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles but privately before them who were of repute, lest by any means I should be running, or had run, in vain; that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.
How that by revelation was made known unto me the mystery, as I wrote before in few words, and to you that are afflicted rest with us, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with the angels of his power in flaming fire, that the proof of your faith, [being] more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Wherefore girding up the loins of your mind, be sober and set your hope perfectly on the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ, but insomuch as ye are partakers of Christs sufferings, rejoice that at the revelation of his glory also ye may rejoice with exceeding joy.
Originally posted by trekwebmaster
How can mincing words recognize truth? Only if the words are of the same-likeness? There is no other state man should exist in but goodlyness. Pain, hurt, denial, anger, deceit, aggrandizement of thought with no humility which refuses the presence of any other thought, pity without acting, hate, or any negative emotional act produces evil. This is in every man. These are of the "beast" mentality of spirit which is easily and instinctively manifested from man to another by not acknowledging the higher; but yet is ignorantly evil. But to do this while knowing a difference and relishing upon it, is truly evil. To do the reverse is to seek to attain close to godliness.
I didn't document what chapter the below came from, but I think it makes the point:
Originally posted by trekwebmaster
TO suffer the darkness ...by crucifying and magnifying the "light." An eternal ironic irony? It could be suggested that even the "realization" of this could "tell" countless "untold" things which echo through the eons without attenuation. I for one, will not deafen my ears but instead, will embrace and acknowledge and confirm.
To question from this point, is absolutely necessary in the continuance of seeking enlightenment? Relatively speaking from a quantum stand-point, which can exist two-fold and manifold. Or inversely, which diminishes toward an inferior dimensionality?
Do you believe God is a self hating entity? People are starving and dying because we have judged them unworthy to help. That is the only reason.
There is no reason for people to starve or suffer unless it is what we want.
19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 21For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Originally posted by Akragon
No i believe God is more like a father then a self hating entity...Children need to be corrected, so again those who live in unfortunate circumstances are there for a reason just like everything else.
Originally posted by Akragon
We haven't judged these starving people they're born into it for the most part.
Originally posted by Akragon
This isn't something people want, its just the way life works. Suffering is self inflicted based on what that soul has done in previous incarnations. All things even out one way or the other..
Originally posted by StlSteve
Very well put, but I am a dead man
Yes we have judged them. We judged them by turning a blind eye to their suffering. We judged them by looking out for our own comforts without bringing them up with us. If you cannot see the many ways we have judged them, open your eyes and be honest with yourself about the systems WE have created and allowed to flourish for our OWN benefit.
Keep your doctrine my friend. It will not stand in the coming age.
Originally posted by Akragon
I understand what you mean, but people have to look beyond things like this. The fact is nothing can be done without a universal understanding that we should love each other as we love ourselves. This is something that will never be a world wide belief.
Oh but it will, there is no comming age....the world will continue on as it always has because its perfect in every way.... Im not saying we are perfect but the system is...100% perfect...We're ruled by the laws of Karma, you reap what you sow, in this life and the next. And until each person learns the lessons we were sent here to learn the cycle will continue....
Originally posted by StlSteve
reply to post by IAMIAM
Very well put, but I am a dead man
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Akragon
I understand what you mean, but people have to look beyond things like this. The fact is nothing can be done without a universal understanding that we should love each other as we love ourselves. This is something that will never be a world wide belief.
Oh but it will, there is no comming age....the world will continue on as it always has because its perfect in every way.... Im not saying we are perfect but the system is...100% perfect...We're ruled by the laws of Karma, you reap what you sow, in this life and the next. And until each person learns the lessons we were sent here to learn the cycle will continue....
I am not trying to convince you my friend. I have simply been letting you know. The systems of old are crumbling. If you do not see it, you will. The world will reap what it has sown. I share these posts that all may know what is going on and why. Some will hear and understand, some will dismiss it and continue on. That is the nature of sharing.
With Love,
Your Brother
Originally posted by Akragon
I know, and we all have our beliefs. You're wise my friend, but you have something i don't. Faith in humanity.
I don't see anything crumbling, i see an escalation of all the worst parts of society. The only system of old that might be crumbling is the belief in God. People believe what they see and not what they feel, but how can you feel anything with all the worlds stimulations, we litterally surround ourselves with the problems of the world every day... How would you even know there was starving people in the world if the information wasn't given to you in 50 different forms of media? Again this just gets back to the world forgetting about God, not the one you read about in church, or any book written by man. The God inside everyone, the one that we all know is there...its not even something that can be denied if people would listen but they don't.......
sorry for the preaching LOL....
I truely hope there is some event that will change the world but sadly i have my doubts.
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by burntoast
i think the last anti-christ is mubarak something wil happen later on with him that will determine that he is the last antichrist
No Mubarak is not the last Anti-Christ. You have just proven he resides within you.
You cannot judge without judging God. If you must judge, let it be love and compassion.
Cast him out.
With Love,
Your Brother
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by burntoast
i think the last anti-christ is mubarak something wil happen later on with him that will determine that he is the last antichrist
No Mubarak is not the last Anti-Christ. You have just proven he resides within you.
You cannot judge without judging God. If you must judge, let it be love and compassion.
Cast him out.
With Love,
Your Brother
You just judged burntoast proving the anti christ resides within YOU.
And how do you know Mubarak is NOT the anti christ, Have you solved the triple six puzzle? Read your bible again, you are to go into a room, close the door and pray in private, not post your interpretation on a board.
I used to think 144,000 was a really small number, now I wonder where he will find that many.
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
I used to think 144,000 was a really small number, now I wonder where he will find that many.
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by burntoast
i think the last anti-christ is mubarak something wil happen later on with him that will determine that he is the last antichrist
No Mubarak is not the last Anti-Christ. You have just proven he resides within you.
You cannot judge without judging God. If you must judge, let it be love and compassion.
Cast him out.
With Love,
Your Brother
You just judged burntoast proving the anti christ resides within YOU.
And how do you know Mubarak is NOT the anti christ, Have you solved the triple six puzzle? Read your bible again, you are to go into a room, close the door and pray in private, not post your interpretation on a board.
I used to think 144,000 was a really small number, now I wonder where he will find that many.
LOL
I confess my sins to you my friend. I have wrongly pointed out that another wrongly pointed out that another may have pointed out a fault in another.
Will you forgive me?
Of course it was all in jest, and meant only to get the poster to focus on the topic instead of diverting down the "Hunt for Red October" path of pointing out the many various possibilities of the Anti-Christ.
I believe it was muzzle flash who pointed out that the BIG Anti Christ is the system we have in place. I believe he is correct in that. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I believe that it may have been with the good intentions of maintaining order that we first succumbed to a system of tribal leaders, then Judges, then kings, and now the monster we have before us.
Regardless of the good intent, there is no doubt that it is an unsustainable system of iniquity. It impoverishes many around the world so that the few can lead a life of absolute luxury. It rapes mankind of their freedom, imprisoning many for victimless crimes and doing nothing in the way of actual rehabilitation of crimes with victims. Our education systems are crumbling, our moral values are in rapid decline (religion has no place here, it is a self worth issue), and our dog eat dog world is returning us to the beastly state we were in before man stood up to walk erect in the world.
If we do not turn it around and replace our system with one based on equity for all, we will suffer our own judgement day where we self annihilate.
I have faith in God that it won't happen, but I also know he helps those who help themselves. You gotta ask for it you know.
So I humbly ask, no I beseech you my friend, please have mercy on my sinful nature, and judge me kindly for my transgressions.
With Love,
Your Brother
P.S. I gave you a star because I know in advance that your pure and gentle heart will forgive my short comings.
P.S.S. 666 is the number of a Man. Earth population exceeded 6,660,000,000 about a year ago. That's good enough for me. I do not do prophecies.edit on 8-2-2011 by IAMIAM because: (no reason given)