Influx of immigrants from India baffles border officials in Texas

Maybe corporations are helping to smuggle them in, so tehy can hired under the table or forged documents? it would equal half the pay/salary and doing as they without any labor law violations impsed on the businesses. jsut a thought , thats all.

Originally posted by gladtobehere
Anyone actually read the source?

No they arent "Pakistani terrorists" claiming to be Indian.

You think border officials are just going to say "Oh okay Mr. brown skinned person, you're Indian because you say so, come on in".

They are saying Indians because the are from India and it would appear to be very well documented:

Yes I read the source, but I have a different take on it than you do:

Authorities interview the immigrants, most of whom arrive with no documents, to ensure that people from neighboring Pakistan or Middle Eastern countries are not slipping through.

First of all, people living in border areas especially can be bilingual so it wouldn't be that hard to fool authorities by speaking the right language.

Second, I have no idea what you mean by "well documented" but most have no documents so that sounds pretty poorly documented to me. The rest of the article is an author's opinion, also not necessarily so well documented.

Third, the fact that they are trying to screen out potential Pakistani and other terrorists shows that there is some concern about them trying to slip through.

Fourth, they only interview the ones they catch. Nobody really knows what percentage are actually caught versus the total number that sneak through. Officials would like to say it's a low percentage not caught to make it seem like they are doing a good job, but they (and we) don't really know if they are catching 1/3, half, or some other percentage. So the ones that never get caught aren't ever interrogated at all, doesn't that pose a problem? And even officials admit they aren't catching them all. Officials would like us to think they are catching most of them but I have no reason to believe that's true. In fact I have just as much reason to believe that more don't get caught, than get caught, based on the well accepted huge number of illegal immigrants in the USA, probably topping 10 million people.

Originally posted by wayno
reply to post by squandered

 

Well those were some sobering videos. I couldn't watch them through. It was just too horrible.

So, indeed, there is a good potential reason for there to be "refugees" wanting and needing escape from India. When you are in those circumstances you don't have the luxury of waiting for the bureaucracy to process your work visa application.

I was really just making a point about the real life situation in India. The people being massacred and forced to live in their own filth aren't migrating anywhere. It's rare that an impressed caste / type / race (even race) get away from the situation they're in. The system of oppression is 1000's of years old.

As i said in my first post, I'll wager they're Punjabis from rural areas. They are by far the most aggressive Indians. They are not the little skinny dark ones, nor the white ones, and definitely not the black ones... They will also not have a single woman with them. They work in mobs. When the gfc hit America they were dancing in the streets.

Be warned. Us (mostly) white people are very careful about judging others unfairly. Have a read about what Malaysians think or Filipinos and also Thais. They have very insidious schemes. You'll see them mob protest your streets illegally and cry victim when the police come. It's been happening everywhere.

On the brighter side, you'll learn to love Mexicans.

reply to post by legalizeit


For all the things I've said that make me seem quite negative, I agree with everything you said.

The bad Indians give the good ones a bad name. There are excellent Indian migrants but what you didn't mention is the fact the guy paying (more likely) $20,000 paid for accommodation and a job when he gets there, which is supposed to enable him to pay off his debt. It's big business.

What I don't like is how they are such braggarts who form mobs and take out their frustration on the population through any means. We've had guys making insurance scams, setting himself on light along with his car and blaming white racism. Others were caught murdering a child, blaming white racism and Indain media reports it all as white racism regardless of any facts, just to stir up nationalism. It's easy to lie to the uneducated masses and doing so helps the corruption keep turning. India wants it's people to migrate ($$) and the source of corruption that makes it possible goes right to the top.

There are good ones but do you really want people who already hate you and break your laws to get there.

Originally posted by davidchin
I thought that I heard on the radio news this morning that they were Sikhs seeking political asylum. That would make sense even though it would not be too politically correct to admit that one of our allies is having issues with persecution of religious minorities.

They are Punjabi's stating that they are refugees. They will come up with a dozen more reasons if they need to, trust me. Whichever current issue of persecution is paying well, they'll use it. They have been doing this in a number of countries for almost a decade.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by gladtobehere

Most of the immigrants say they are from the Punjab or Gujarat states. They are largely Sikhs who say they face religious persecution, or members of the Bharatiya Janata Party who say they are targeted for beatings by members of the National Congress Party..

They are coming for the illusion of easy cash and saying they are being persecuted.

That's what i'm thinking.

You understand the situation well.

It's not all that uncommon for the US Border Patrol to encounter people from India, yes the vast majority of people sneaking across the US-Mexico border are either Mexican or from Central/South America (primarily Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Bolivia, and Ecuador) but Arabs, Indians, and even Asians are occasionally caught. As many as 25% of illegals caught by the US Border Patrol are non Hispanic.

There have been many reports of US Border Patrol agents finding Islamic prayer rugs, Korans, and Hezbollah pamphlets as well. I have no doubt that Islamic terrorist groups are taking advantage of the US-Mexico border, they would have to be incredibly dumb not too.

Originally posted by Billmeister

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
It will probably get a lot worse.

US is one of the few developed countries with weak border protection I have heard of.

Really?

You can drive through all of Europe and never see any secured borders.

And we see how well that is working for them. Europe will be a Arab Muslim
continent in 50 years.
Its one thing when 2 old people come here. Thats just 2 people.
But when 2 young people come here and breed at the rate of 4 children,
those 2 people will produce 120+ offspring in only 80 years.

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Be interesting to learn what part of India they came from, also how they were able to afford to get half way across the world.

It would not surprise me if they were from the north. India and Pakistan have been close to each others throats for a long time. Pakistan is getting increasingly unstable and perhaps these folks, thinking that relocating was a smart thing to do, decided to come to the US rather than relocate within their own country.

This is a story that warrants following. Too many details we don't know at this stage.

who really cares who they are or where they come from. they will take more jobs and aid from actual americans, whilst we are knee deep in the economic crapper. same ol song and dance here, and the dumb american masses will oblige thier every want and need.

reply to post by dolphinfan


It says Punjabi. That was my suspicion based my experiences.

They are rural people who have very little money but their crime syndicates are organised. They have already set up jobs, falsified records and a place to stay, with the offer you'll need to work X amount of years to pay your $20,000 debt and then you can stay.

I know because they set up about 100 phoney colleges in my city (not USA) to rort the weaknesses we had in our overseas education system, but when the new gov't came into power and the phoney colleges were closed down they protested in the street citing white racism as the cause. India's media courted them and sensationalised the situation beyond belief. They were all in on it!

They flamed the boards with paid hate speech and I subsequently learned from South East Asians who chimed in that they had similar stories about Indians from Punjabi doing the same things in their own country.

It's a high level rort. I've kept an eye on Indian news papers, even to read a story written by a general stating that migration from Punjabi will go unfettered and stories from home where gov't officials are inviting them, (despite the trouble they caused), which smells like corruption to me.

Be warned... India sees it's massive population as a source of power and wants to flex it's muscles.

My impression, and that is all that it is, is that this group of people have the mindset that the only way to get something accomplished is by illegal and roundabout ways. Just the kind of person you want sneaking into your country who will most likely continue to live by that philosophy once here.

Great contribution to our way of life. NOT!

Originally posted by RRokkyy

Originally posted by Billmeister

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
It will probably get a lot worse.

US is one of the few developed countries with weak border protection I have heard of.

Really?

You can drive through all of Europe and never see any secured borders.

And we see how well that is working for them. Europe will be a Arab Muslim
continent in 50 years.
Its one thing when 2 old people come here. Thats just 2 people.
But when 2 young people come here and breed at the rate of 4 children,
those 2 people will produce 120+ offspring in only 80 years.

That would make for a good discussion on immigration policy, where one would have to include blowback from post WWI colonialism and Ghaddafi's "war of the womb" strategy, but this thread is about border security. Notice how no other country is suggesting they build a wall, guarded by armed patrol around their country.

Interesting that you chose to not discuss the actual talking point in my post:

Perhaps you meant that the U.S.A is one of the few developed countries whose security industry has successfully convinced its citizens to be in a heightened and constant state of fear, the only solution to this being to give them more money.
In order to justify this, they must come up with more and more grandiose plans, like building walls around the country, or laser security fences.

I would love to be given examples of other countries that are walled in. The only ones that come to mind were during the communist soviet era, but those walls were to keep people in.
(Hmmm, perhaps there is something to this after all.)

the Billmeister