Victory in Britain!! Prime Minister says multiculturalism has failed

Originally posted by Haydn_17

They just can't get it out of there heads that opposing islam isnt facist or racist.

It's because, deep down, there's something about Islam that appeals to them...

Why not take it a step further and start oppressing people again?
Britain was one of the most racially fueled empires of all time.

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact


it is quite obvious Islam is taking over various sections of their establishments and the native briton is in fear of Sharia law taking place and gaining stronghold... hence them losing to radical islam, they have already made too many concessions just as many other places in Europe have, take France for example...

So why not just ban RELIGION? ALL RELIGION?.............................FAIR?

I see,just certain aspects of one.......

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
it is quite obvious Islam is taking over various sections of their establishments

You mean people are freely practicing and people are freely converting. So? You intend to stop the spread of islam? The only way I see this happening is if you were to outlaw the religion which to be frank is against the very freedoms people like you insist upon.

Sharia law taking place

Sharia law cannot take place. It would require the dismantling of the freedom based laws already established in the United Kingdom. Now before you insist that this "will" happen, reality matters more in this case. Are you living under sharia law?

hence them losing to radical islam, they have already made too many concessions just as many other places in Europe have, take France for example...

What concessions are these exactly? Muslim woman are alread barred in Belgium for example from wearing the burka, which, while I do not have much against the idea (I think the burka is the devaluation for the woman). it does bring into the question as to whether any law is justified enough to require what clothing one must wear in public. Now private institutions or businesses, that is a different story.

Thank God the real Britons settled here and drafted up this paper document which protects core values of western civilization

By attempting to strip the freedoms of "none Briton" British citizens. Yes, that's real productive to western value right? So what exactly are you hoping Prime minister Cameron do? Outlaw mosques? Outlaw islam? How is he going to stop people freely practicing islam while... umm.... promoting "western values"?

Kanye West : America i'ma let you finish but Britain was the most racist empire of all time!

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact


it is quite obvious Islam is taking over various sections of their establishments and the native briton is in fear of Sharia law taking place and gaining stronghold... hence them losing to radical islam, they have already made too many concessions just as many other places in Europe have, take France for example...

So why not just ban RELIGION? ALL RELIGION?.............................FAIR?

I see,just certain aspects of one.......

yeah go try that in a Muslim country or in India or in China...

atheism is only consuming itself from within...

better yet, get Richard Dawkins to go preach it in a Muslim country, we would do well to be rid of him anyway

reply to post by Pr0t0


I fear you're right. And maybe some of your fellow Britains should take a look on the history of my country, where it all happend before...

We also had a "leader", but his name wasn't Cameron...

And countless british men died fighting against an inhuman ideology, that seems to rise it's ugly head once more all across the western countries.

Guess where I'm coming from...?


To Haydn: Stop talking about western values. We in the western world, we mostly know just one value, and that is MONEY.

If we had any other values, we'd have supported the rising egyptian democracy from the hour of it's birth, and Mubarak would already be history.

But he's still in power, and our leaders are still talking about "western values".

It's a shame...

Originally posted by Peloquin
reply to post by Pr0t0

 

I fear you're right. And maybe some of your fellow Britains should take a look on the history of my country, where it all happend before...

We also had a "leader", but his name wasn't Cameron...

And countless british men died fighting against an inhuman ideology, that seems to rise it's ugly head once more all across the western countries.

the only thing I have noticed about the British ideological sword is it has done nothing through history except get smaller and smaller...

this is actually reality and fact.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
Muslims in the UK don't live with other Britons, they set up areas which are only Muslim areas, they won't buy from white british business owners, they don't vote in elections, they even go as far as setting up there own law system (sharia)

This is the issue.

If you want to live in the UK, live with other British people, vote in our elections, promote British Values!

I agree with this completely - if you want to live in our country - at least try and respect our values.

But no, we are racist if we think this.


Finally some people are seeing the light! (wonder when more Canadians will learn this)

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact


And why would we need to get rid of logic and rationality?

And the Crusades 2.0 are back on.

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact


it is quite obvious Islam is taking over various sections of their establishments and the native briton is in fear of Sharia law taking place and gaining stronghold... hence them losing to radical islam, they have already made too many concessions just as many other places in Europe have, take France for example...

So why not just ban RELIGION? ALL RELIGION?.............................FAIR?

I see,just certain aspects of one.......

yeah go try that in a Muslim country or in India or in China...

atheism is only consuming itself from within...

better yet, get Richard Dawkins to go preach it in a Muslim country, we would do well to be rid of him anyway

LOL,lets see.......Britain is primarily a Christian Nation. A Nation that has Christian Beliefs founded since the Early middle ages. I understand WHY they fear another religion. I say ban Religion for the simple fact it causes humanity's problems. The God that everyone is worshiping has killed,and has let humanity kill, how many people,in his name? Religion offers faith,but It breeds class warfare. Religion is Hypocritical at best. Their lays the problems of the world. Britons problem,lays in the past,and is doomed to repeat itself. I could see internment camps,at the rate they are going. God save the Queen!

Originally posted by DuceizBack
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

 

And why would we need to get rid of logic and rationality?

no one is suggesting this... who is suggesting this ?

they only thing that is being suggested to the liberal mindset is that they view reality and the political ideologies of the world, in otherwords the "big picture" instead of some fantasy Utopian society where all the world is one.

sadly it is not this way... and it is not that I would not like to see it so, we just got a long way to go...

Originally posted by DuceizBack
Why not take it a step further and start oppressing people again?
Britain was one of the most racially fueled empires of all time.

What worse than countries with Sharia law???

Sounds more you fear war and hate what nationalism does. It's doubtful that Brits were all a bunch of fundamentalists, ever.

Oh yeah, and as bad Brit's have even been, you're still snobby at the top and brainwashed below.

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
And the Crusades 2.0 are back on.

no it's more like the 3rd Jihad



for those about to Rock... we salute you !

Originally posted by sonnny1
LOL,lets see.......Britain is primarily a Christian Nation. A Nation that has Christian Beliefs founded since the Early middle ages.

well I doubt they have crosses and such in their government buildings or even on their flag for that matter ? USA doesn't either.

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
And the Crusades 2.0 are back on.

no it's more like the 3rd Jihad

for those about to Rock... we salute you !

I can't say that I really understand that comparison. What were the other two Jihads? My comparison of the event to the Crusades basically means that "Christianity" (the western free world) is fighting Islam, and Islam is fighting the western establishment. Both sides, imo, are in the wrong and will most likely be the ruin of each other and will destroy civilized society for the rest of us.

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact


Ah,but it doesnt change the fact that majority(Christians),is trying to change the laws,before the minority(Islam),has enough people to change the laws in their favor. That is how its going down,right? Dont call it multiculturalism,call it for what it is. They dont want Islam,and their beliefs overrunning their country. My question,is how far will it go? History has proven,that goes over badly.

BTW,The Union Jack is a Christian Flag........

"Victory in Britain!! Prime Minister says multiculturalism has failed!"

What an impressive headline. And it get's even more impressive, when I translate it into my first language:

"Sieg in Deutschland! Reichskanzler sagt der Multikulturalismus ist gescheitert!"

Yeah, the sound is different, but the meaning is the same... (ok, the exact translation of "Prime Minister" isn't "Reichskanzler", but I think you get what I mean )

Looking around I ask myself, if we germans are possibly the ones who keep the lessons of history best in mind...

Whoever said: "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it!"? Think about it...

When you come to my country you respect my laws, my people, my society, my culture and my values.

When I go to your country - I respect ALL of those things. Whether I go to your country to visit as a tourist, or whether I go to settle for longer - if I find something about your laws, people, society, culture or values I strongly disagree with, I won't come near your country.

When you come to my country you isolate yourselves, you subjugate your women, you force your fascist religion at us, you drive my people out of their districts and neighbourhoods, you REFUSE to engage and integrate. In my country we have welcomed you, given you freedoms, rights, privileges.

When you come to my country you insist on doing things YOUR way and pay no heed to OUR way. You insist on wanting to introduce a backward, intolerant, bigoted, nasty, misogynistic, cruel, inhumane form of religious law and state that you want to transform our culture into your own.

You force young people into marriages not of their choosing (through punisment of death if they refuse), you do not allow women the right to embrace that which is the very fundamental part of their existence - their femininity, and you have the nerve to tell millions of gay people to deny themselves or be stoned to death.

And then you wonder why we are not still welcoming you with open arms...?