Alien Origins of our DNA and the Creation of Man (a must read!!!)

Some excellent thoughts and comments here but let us for one moment view this from a different angle.

Let us say hypothetically that we are now 1000 years into the future (not long in planetary terms). We no longer age because we learned how to turn off the ageing gene back in 2050. (The ageing gene apparently has already been identified in 2010) and have advanced so far that we can now travel faster than the the speed of light and we have a full and proven ability to create and manipulate life forms via genetic engineering. So In essence we can live forever or at the very least a lot longer than our current lifespan.

We now have the ability to visit other planets and as an experiment we introduce our dna into the primitive life forms that we find on several donor planets.
We then sit back and let time take its course. We visit the planets every few hundred or thousand years.

Now all of this in theory could well be obtainable to the human race. There may be aspects of time and space travel as yet undiscovered to us no matter what current theories suggest so lets not get into arguments about these issues let us just suggest that this is real and this is now.

We then need to ask and I hope answer many questions. In this scenario we effectively have become the "alien life form" implanting or exchanging our own dna or manipulated genetic code.

Some thoughts

What would we want to achieve?
What would be our purpose?
Why invest so much time and energy?
What if anything would we want to do with the end result?
How would we learn from this?
Could we benefit from this?
Would we want to communicate with or even befriend an intelligent life form created from our own project.
Would we be surprised if they were able to back engineer our current technology and would that threaten us?

I'm just trying to look at this issue from a different perspective. I also feel when reversed in such a way it really doesn't appear far fetched at all.

Studio

There were/are thousands of deficiencies in the human DNA structure and scientists still do not know how we overcame them early in our evolution.

reply to post by Topato


Maybe it was the mushrooms. Check this out play close attention to 1:42

reply to post by Gorman91

What does a human animal hybrid have to do with aliens or God?

It was done before Long Ago ! from ancient so called Myths by the GODS!
you know Genetic Engineering & Splicing just people wont believe in that fact..

but rather believe in a Magical Creation from a being that hides in a Burning Bush and a
That The Gods are the Aliens ! Heavenly beings from the SKY - Heaven Valhalla Mount Olympus Etc...
I doubt that Astronaut's or Air Force located those places but it talked about all over the Ancient World from Every Race and Culture on Earth..... Space Mother Ship etc.. what have you

Like your Alien craft over a City by the way ( Avatar)

as I said are we becoming like Our Creator! but we are still like Elementary kids playing with a mock up Chemistry Kits we call LABs compare to those Heavenly Beings

Has MAN made a Hybrid ! a Chimera! if you have difficulty believing

watch Animal Farm Genetic engineering

Animal Farm episode 1 p1


We are playing God! with Animals and Plants ! the Video Proves it !
glowing Pigs Mouse & Rabbits goats produce Spider Silk! and if you watch the whole documentary parts 1 to 10 there an actually Hybrid from 2 different Species!! ohh and Rapid growing Fish !
that my POINT about Hybrids Aliens and God !

and watch the rest of this video ! this is part 1! of 10

reply to post by AncientShade


Actually no. The reality of the situation is that we do not know. It is impossible to prove or prove against. It's faith. Faith for or against either way.

reply to post by Wolfenz


Myths are called myths for a reason. There is no proof of them and they are made up. The fact that we can now trace most any myth from pre-Christian religions from Spain to Pakistan to the their origins in India gives light to the fact that they are just that: stories told by people.

In addition, there seems to be only 2 or so myths that have actually gone throughout history unchanged. The tree of life and the flood. That's about it. Everyone else, like those you think of, have changed every couple hundred of years. They're simply not reliable.

And my avatar is of man's creations over man's cities on a speculated civilization on terraformed Mars after an apocalypse on Earth. Thanks for proving my point. You see something unexplainable and it's immediately magic, aliens, god, or something else. It couldn't possibly be something made by men in their pursuit of knowledge and power.

Men do not become gods. We act like the ones we created long ago. We've never changed. And the fact that the gods of old are just as evil as the men of today proves all the more they are fabrications of our own.

Just about the only series of religions that go the opposite way are Abrahamic ones. Whom simply state that God is not of man and cannot be like man. We can act like God, but we cannot become God. And we can only physically and emotionally act like God, we cannot become as he is mentally.

Everything you states is theory, not provable fact. And what I have stated is faith, not provable fact.

reply to post by studio500


I think mabye one of the reasons that future humans would want to implant their dna into a new 'alien' organism is because of a newly emerged disease or virus and a way to immune themselve is urgently required.

reply to post by Gorman91


In your post you fell into the classic trap of assigning a male gender to 'god'. I have done it myself on occasions with 'Her' or 'She'. It is an inbuilt flaw that keeps resurfacing. ?How does a powerful creative force have a gender eg. we do not refer to electricity as a 'he'.

reply to post by mrjefffort


McKenna ! I saw another video of his yesterday someone had posted. Was talking about how early man might have eaten mushrooms to spark brain evolution. Fun stuff.

reply to post by Tindalos2013


He doesn't. If you want to go by Christian-Rabbinic tradition, my favorite, God is a genderless creative tri-person being. Mankind was created in the same image, but we have to build it, we don't get it at birth. We are not complete until we find our love and bind the union with God, becoming a tri-person being in our own right.

The fact that tradition calls god a He is simply that. tradition. The English language has he she and it as interchangeable for gender and genderless. That's why nations and ships are she, God is he, and we don't use it for either. Tradition. it doesn't affect what I said in any way shape nor form.

reply to post by mrjefffort


Really cool, but scientifically flawed. The human brain did neither double in size nor in a million years. And his civilization view is flawed as well.

The human and chimp brain are about 2:3 ratio in size, and that change from the ancient common ancestor occurred over 5 million years. In addition, we did not become human because of this. our non-higher intelligence ancestors, homo erectus, had large brains too, but no human-ness to them. We had a sudden mutaiton about 50,000 years ago that changed the thought patterns we had. But this did not change our form. To create an analogy, our hardware did not change, our software did.

In addition, humans have always been as we are now. We never had some nature-sensitive civilization nor people. We simply weren't taking as much due to lower population sizes. We always have been, by default, an expansionist conquering genocidal viral species. We killed off or out competed all other hominids over the course of 30,000 years. That's genocide.

Originally posted by Topato
reply to post by mrjefffort

 

McKenna ! I saw another video of his yesterday someone had posted. Was talking about how early man might have eaten mushrooms to spark brain evolution. Fun stuff.

Yes whats interesting about it is it makes alot of sense heres another video on the matter

IF BY ALIEN DNA YOU MEAN AN ALIEN OR OUTSIDE INFLUENCE then theres nothing more alien than mushrooms

reply to post by type0civ


Our ancestors did write actual history down, many civilizations wrote down various goings on. However some were embellished and grew into epic tales over time. Here's what's wrong with the way you think, we cannot assume that every piece of ancient writing is historically accurate and true. If a story is a straight forward account of something that could actually happen (a war perhaps) than it might be history, however if we hear about dragons, fairies or gods in the story we might want to think twice before taking it as literal history. Ancient peoples didn't produce just one type of writing and the more extraordinary the claims within a piece of writing the more skeptical we should be when people are claiming its a straight forward history meant to be taken literally (the Bible for example).

Ancient astronaut proponents not only claim that myths about gods and goddesses are true stories (or based upon true stories) but they then rip these stories out of their cultural context to overlay modern ideas about aliens and UFOs over them.

And yes, it is possible that if a meteor knocked out civilization future people might not get everything right when re-discovering the past but that doesn't mean its okay for them to leap to absurd conclusions to fill the gaps in their knowledge.

Nice thread,
I am quite convinced by some time now, that DNA is inteligently designed by an inteligent entity/ies. Its such clever, self evolving concept.. This may have been aliens or God conciousness itself.. if u look at all universe, at all, that is, as a tree it doesnt make such difference, becouse it all leads finaly to one.

Its not so important how one calls it, but important is that one can see inteligence behind this creation. But sadly most humans are not gratefull enough for it, they doesnt see behind their daylife limits, and dumbly keep wondering whats this all about..

what quite thrills me though, is, that with all the computers and virtual realities we are able to developed, we are creating something similar, space for unlimited creation lets say, its only missing the proper inteligence ..
I am wondering for quite a time if this can be created, .. or how? or if ti can be programed the way we try..
or inteligence cant be programed but should be soaked into?.. from .. universe? from us?
like just opening the "proper gate" for it and let it flow directly into the cyberspace

social networking could kick in global conciousness if used the right way.. i think
thoughts?

Mathematical proof of how the sacred geometries of various religions encode the 64 codons and anticodons of human RNA:
smphillips.8m.com...

(Of interest only to those impressed more by rigorous mathematics than by the speculations of cranks)

reply to post by mrjefffort


Yes, I liked it:

deoxy.org...

but there is something more to the DNA itself, see:

tgd.wippiespace.com...

scireprints.lu.lv...

www.technologyreview.com...

I cannot only admit the too heavy theory of Matti Pitkanen and still
stand on darkfieldnavigator.com...

Sight...and HERE is proof that intelligent design is not the case and it's ALSO high math...



Why am I having these kinds of discussion again with religious people?

Nice job! Runs right along with my thinking. I subsribe to us being genectically engineered by the Annunaki to work for them. (Zachariah Sitchin). It closes the case on "missing link" too. Think about it. All the pieces fit together.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Wolfenz

 

Myths are called myths for a reason. There is no proof of them and they are made up. The fact that we can now trace most any myth from pre-Christian religions from Spain to Pakistan to the their origins in India gives light to the fact that they are just that: stories told by people.

In addition, there seems to be only 2 or so myths that have actually gone throughout history unchanged. The tree of life and the flood. That's about it. Everyone else, like those you think of, have changed every couple hundred of years. They're simply not reliable.

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And my avatar is of man's creations over man's cities on a speculated civilization on terraformed Mars after an apocalypse on Earth. Thanks for proving my point. You see something unexplainable and it's immediately magic, aliens, god, or something else. It couldn't possibly be something made by men in their pursuit of knowledge and power.

What ???? that what im talking about Pal.. We are the Aliens ! ! !
Ahh No... your Avatar proves my point Terra forming Mars and planting civilization humanoids just like Here on Earth and that wee all those World (Earthen) Myths say something similar to one or another pointing up to the Sky! there us were them... not some make belives Octopus tentacle alien ( god created man in his own Image ) Duh..

how GOD and Religion created?

Men do not become gods. We act like the ones we created long ago. We've never changed. And the fact that the gods of old are just as evil as the men of today proves all the more they are fabrications of our own.

What?? ok wait another thousand years ! ! just look how far we have gone in just in a Hundred years time Since the Turn of the 20th Century Industrial Age ... ..You do realize we have gone from a Heavy than Air flying Self propelling machine (Wrightbrothers) to landing on the MOON(Apollo 11) in 66 years !!!!!

ust about the only series of religions that go the opposite way are Abrahamic ones. Whom simply state that God is not of man and cannot be like man. We can act like God, but we cannot become God. And we can only physically and emotionally act like God, we cannot become as he is mentally.

The Legion of Angels Thought of that also.. and had a revolt over the Hebrew God but then again your talking about Hebrew a God ,,, Just as a Slave Can not be a Slave Master as he slightly doesn't look the part in Mid 19th century American South you know & Caucasians & Negroes
a slight different race but were not considered human but livestock....

Everything you states is theory, not provable fact. And what I have stated is faith, not provable fact.

and you think that the Hebrew Religion is fact/faith ??? Every Religion is theory!! how much fact in recorded time do you have to go to make faith as a delusional fact !
Ill bealive in the Sumerian Myths way before any other
its the Oldest known recorded Civilization So far that i know of... Seeing the Man Made Hebrew History/instruction Books (Bible/Torah) was The Oldest known history Book Until a Few Found and Translated the Sumerian literature....

reply to post by Wolfenz


Ah but you see. you used subjective terms. I could just as easily do the same to your beliefs and then we would have no beliefs.

The indo-european pantheon, after all, is a collection of men and women who aren't really men and women but gods who for some reason look just like men and women and for some reason call themselves gods even though for all intensive purposes they are indifferent to men and that they are immortal even though they really aren't immortal but rather the rape and incest retarded offspring of older gods whom, like their retarded offspring of rape and incest, are immortal but not really immortal and gods but not really gods, but rather just normal folks acting like normal folks, only they have nature.

See? If you use subjective terminology, you can pretty much make anything look as retarded as it truly is.

So yea, holod back your ignorance, and don't pull crap like that.



We are clearly not aliens, considering that our evolution comes from earthly creatures.

And no, my avatar is of humans who got left behind on a half terraformed Mars and evolved to live on it. Difference to humans on Earth? They had no evolutionary history on mars. We do here on Earth. So don't try to tell me what I mean by my own artwork when you clearly failed basic biology.

I hope you realize that humanity is only 300 years ahead of where the Minoans were when they collapsed. We have not gotten very far in a few hundred years. We RECOVERED what we lost in the last hundred years. In fact, if you want to go by myth = true, clearly we are a failtacular species that keeps blowing ourselves up and rebuilding, begging to question the necessity to regard these people as better, when in fact their failures lead to our current situation.

What does slaves have to do with anything? Do you realize the total lack of connection of your random spewing of nonsense? Everyone has been a slave to everyone at some point in time. What this proves is furthermore that humanity is a failure.

Yes. Every religion is theory and faith. Not provable fact. So don't come prancing up with a bunch of incoherent statements with unrelated things and videos acting like you know everything. You don't

There is no proof for anything you have stated. There is only theory. And to parade that as fact is nothing short of ignorance.

Stop that at once.

Fantastic thread, thank you for the time you put into the research and then posting it for us.

This will keep me busy for awhile.


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