Alien Origins of our DNA and the Creation of Man (a must read!!!)

Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by PerfectPerception
While researching cultures (i.e..-Sumerian,Hopi,Inca,Mayan,Egypt,Native Americans,Aborigines among other cultures & indigenous peoples) it becomes irrefutably evident of some kind of human/"alien" interaction that has been ignored,hidden and suppressed by mainstream anthropology,archeology,educators and the msm in general from the populace!

Irrefutably? Such as?

It is rather curious that you say it is ignored, hidden and suppressed by mainstream researchers, while you manage to post pictures of these supposedly suppressed items.

As for the pictures you posts, what is their context within the cultures that produced them? Have you bothered researching their context, what the cultures themselves had to say about them, or are you simply parroting what a UFO research claims they are?

For instance, what do the Hopi themselves say about the Ant Peoples and Snake Peoples?

Ant People

Snake People

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I believe you misunderstand what I was trying to convey when I posted
"While researching cultures(i.e..-Sumerian,Hopi,Inca,Mayan,Egypt,Native Americans,Aborigines among other cultures & indigenous peoples) it becomes irrefutably evident of some kind of human/"alien" interaction that has been ignored,hidden and suppressed by mainstream anthropology,archeology,educators and the msm in general from the populace!"

1.)If such findings truly are depictions of "aliens" the msm would never air the truth.do you not think that to be the probable case?

2.)I believe without a shadow of a doubt,the little we do "know" and the little we have been allowed to see is only the tip of the iceberg of what I believe has been found and known ( I bet it would probably come as a shocking surprise to many if they were to know about scholars being paid to suppress information & facts of discoveries found? it is possible)
I was purely stating how I see it that if the information is/was available,it would never see the light of day,it would be hidden,suppressed and ignored by the mainstream.

I gave the two pictures of the Hopi as an introduction of "odd" looking petroglyphs because I personally find them of interest and relevance to what I was trying to present [ petroglyphs that resemble star/alien/weird looking humanoids] I was not trying to relate the 2 pictures and the comment that preceded it.sorry for the mix up. ( Irrefutable was expressing my own opinion,bad choice of words )

Maybe "arguably evident",strikingly similar and/or portraying what looks like "star beings/alien humanoids" ( in comparison to what is presently reported etc. ) would of been a better choice of words? with less adjectives added on for emphasis and the attempt to cover every possible avenue of approach... I should of emphasized that it was My belief...My opinion that it is possible some artifacts,discoveries and the true nature or origins may of been suppressed,hidden and/or ignored.

Surely you do not believe we know everything there is to know concerning discoveries that have been made?
I have not seen many mainstream scientists,anthropologists or archeologists come out and admit any sort of inkling that some ancient figurines,petroglyphs etc. seem to resemble "extraterrestrials" or even allude to the fact of anything out of the ordinary .

I have read about the "ant" people and the "snake" people ( I labeled them under as "star beings" as a generalization of i.e. kachinas /otherwordly beings which I have heard Hopi tribesmen speak of coming down from the skies) I even read the links you provided,I still personally come to the conclusion there is more going on here than what appears on the surface with these creation "myths".

The ant people in the depictions do not look like the ants me & you would call ants today,it is only a correlation with names as is "angels" in the bible to me equates to "otherworldly/alien humanoids" that were misunderstood and labeled as such because of the limited experiential knowledge of the time-period & religious belief systems for that culture.

same goes for the snake people,I find it very interesting how they speak of the snake village and the snake "gods" abilities to shift from spirit to human(shape-shifters etc Anazi.)

Excellent work. S&F. Your work compliments my theories on the subject, very nicely.

(Thank you)

reply to post by PerfectPerception


Awesome Thread!

I very much enjoyed the articles about Crick taking small doses of acid--- good for him! (I don’t remember every being taught that little tidbit while in school!)

And from my own readings, I’ve come to a similar conclusion that humanity’s DNA has been manufactured (for lack of a better word) and then modified many times over the years by various groups of ETs.

I think that the manipulation of our DNA was done for benevolent purposes, for the most part anyways. (Ie. To help us evolve into more intelligent and emotionally mature human beings) However, I do think it’s possible that some of the tampering with our DNA hasn’t been for the best. But honestly, I dunno.

For sure though, I think the alien interventionist theory is valid and worthy of further study. Thanks so much for your hard work gathering the information and creating this thread! Posters like you are why I love this site!

Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
What if it was not so much a "creation" as a genetic manipulation. Primitive man evolved naturally to a certain stage before being altered by alien species. After all, the myths of the past tell us that "gods" (or angels,elohim, whatever you want to call them from whatever myth you are reading) mixed with earth women. The Sumerians story seems to lean towards a dna mix.

So, in this case, no one had to have created our "creators". They could have evolved naturally, learned interstellar travel (and genetic manipulation, which as we know is already being done by scientists all over the current world) and come here, boosted humanity, gave us some basic tools to work with, gone home... and then be sorely mistaken by the humans that they left behind as something to be worshiped. ( I would assume that early man really enjoyed the company of these bringers of "life" and where sad to see them go.)

I tend to believe it is along these lines that you have stated. I don't believe aliens or others have created our DNA, however, I think it is highly likely that they had a hand in manipulating it for whatever purpose.

The question one would eventually have to ask is, who created DNA in the first place? When you attempt to answer that, you are back to more conceptual possibilities and explanations. For those of you are interested in the topic, which many of you seem to be, many of the research roads look like humans have devolved down from a higher frequency or more ethereal state. I know that sounds fantastic, but really, much of the stuff in this concept really is.

Awesome post, OP. I think much of the stuff you presented was an attempt by our predecessors to document the role of DNA has had in our history. A common meme that seems to be coming up, is that our DNA operates much like an antenna, and our own electromagnetic field acts as sort of a frequency tuner. They operate together, allowing for a change in the being. This is the concept David Wilcock and others are presenting. As we are witnessing the reduction in the Sun's and Earth's magnetic fields and as we approach the galactic plane, it is theorized that we will be bombarded with a massive amounts of energy, providing for a very rare opportunity for this type of event to occur.

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Not a "who".....:

The question one would eventually have to ask is, who created DNA in the first place...

Perhaps you glossed over a video or two I posted earlier.

The basics of chemistry, molecular bonds and the physics of that are 'responsible'....which I think is very exciting, in more ways than one. Obviously, means WE are here to ponder it, but also?

Would seem to be such a simple "recipe" that there should be little doubt that it would repeat, in various forms, over and over everywhere in the Galaxy or Universe, where conditions are conducive. I presume at least liquid water is a requirement. However, that may not be entirely true....might be alternatives that would suffice.

For me personally it's not so much IF we were created by aliens,

more which aliens created us..

Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
I started reading this and started researching as soon as I read the section about mitochondrial Eve. Although there are more than one "Eve" they say that the oldest one was found in South Africa and is roughly 200,000 years old. Is it a coincidence that they found a very advanced ruins of a civilization in S.A that dates back to 200,000 year old (I believe this "city" was discovered in 2009. Strangely, when viewing the city from above (via Google Earth) many of the buildings form a spiral design and they are apparently not discernible from ground level but only from the sky. Could this have been the first city built by our ancient alien ancestors?

200,000 Year Old Metropolis in S.A

Also, the statue of an angel that was found on the moon was said to be dated at roughly 200,000 years old...

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200, 000 Year old Statue found on the Moon

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That 200,000 year old angel-statue story was from The Onion! I remember it well...
Interesting thread, OP!

Actually, the human genetic code is very simular to almost every species on this planet. Even fruitflies have 60% identical code to that of humans so unless you mean to tell that the primary code was seeded your theory would be incorrect. Fact of the matter; Even if it would be correct the result of such a seeding would be uncertain due to astronomical en geographical events and the unpredictable nature of them.

The code was only slightly 'nudget' with foreign DNA and the only thing that it actually nudget was the amount and speed in which the human brain would expand. outside that nothing was really done to change the human code. It is a mere sequence of 4 genetic markers introduced using a K-class retro-virus on two seperate locations in Africa some 200.000 years ago; One being in upper Africa and one in the southern most tip of the continent.

Well, the researchteams considered redesigning from scratch but those plans were hearled through the toilet after they seemed to miss the point and also became to time consuming and had an inborn high chance of failure. So they fetched some ancestors of the homo sapiens from two seperate and isolated groups at the before mentioned locations and infected all members with the modified K-class retrovirusses and watched. As it seemed that both the main group in the soutern tip and the control group in northen Africa seemed to develop fine they left, leaving not even a trace of them ever being here. Well, nuttin' to worry about it is merely a minor footnote in the long evolution of the primatespecies as a whole.

Aliens exist, it is true. They are not, however, a new form of intelligent life. They are demonic entities that have taken on forms unknown to us and therefore we name them 'aliens' they may very well reside on a different planet than us, but the fact remains that they are fallen angels and they were CREATED BY GOD.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Not a "who".....:

The question one would eventually have to ask is, who created DNA in the first place...

Perhaps you glossed over a video or two I posted earlier.

You glossed over the fact that abiogenesis is merely a working hypothesis which has never been demonstrated.

What I find interesting is that ( primarily atheist) biologists are grasping at straws. An example would be Eugene Koonin, a highly respected biologist, yet who in his 2007 paper "The cosmological model of eternal inflation and the transition from chance to biological evolution in the history of life" suggests that getting to a biological system capable of darwinian evolution is such an improbable event, we need the multiverse - the many worlds hypothesis - to solve the problem! So any chance event, no matter how unlikely, becomes a certainty. And that surely is not much better than the God hypothesis. With such logic, God exists too.

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It took me a while to read all that. Thanks for the link. A very cool story. It's very interesting that the alien DNA is so close to our own. I had a theory that the alien-human hybrids are like the diplomats between our two species. I imagine they are more advanced than us in genetics and space travel obviously and so they come to our planet, they get a sample human, they genetically mix the two races to create a hybrid and they use that hybrid as a bridge between the races. They keep the hybrid with them to learn how to interact with humans. It comes down to the old problem of communication between species, different species have different brains different senses etc so communication becomes challenging but if you could meet half way then the half-breed would have a better understanding of both species and how the two should interact.

As an artist I've been drawing a lot of aliens lately. I watch all those shape-shifter videos where newscasters get forked tongues and double eyelids with cat/snake irises and dark spots under their eyes etc, I try to draw what the underlying reptillian creature might look like. Anyway, now I'm gonna try to draw some of these halfbreed naked females.

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You glossed over the fact that abiogenesis is merely a working hypothesis which has never been demonstrated.

Shame on Weedwhacker.

Maybe you could add some of the details he 'glossed over?'

As it's understood, there's no getting away from the fact that something inanimate became animated. Expecting WW to explain it is as ridiculous as me asking you to demonstrate abiogenesis.

Are you implying that there's an alternative to abiogenesis?

Zorgs and Slayer would usually add a smiley eating popcorn at this point...waiting.

I guess I could imagine a future where interstellar travel would be common and our civilization would travel to different parts of the universe trying to help species improve so we could observe their intelligent behavior, maybe it is fueled by some glimmer of hope that this time, the species will not corrupt.

If we were made by ET's why are they still abducting and so called 'experimenting' on us? I have always believed our bodies are only a container for what we really are, souls. I also dont believe we 'evolved' into walking upright from apes. I strongly believe the ape DNA was slightly altered and made black people. I cannot explain the other races but I question why we dont all look alike on this earth.

Why would human DNA have to planted and transmitted throughout the universe by aliens ? When we imagine the infinite universe as a whole and consider what we know about this planet and the unending diverse life forms that does exist here and continues to evolve into more advanced species if they are smart enough to keep their specie from going extinct, the logical next step would be that other planets exist where other diverse life forms and species have evolved over many eons. I think when we finally are able to travel deep into outer space and explore other distant planets even those in other galaxies we will find not only evidence of these life forms either currently living or through fossilized, anthropological digs to support this theory. Giovanni Bruno of the 16th century was so convinced of the pan universal theory that he began teaching it in part of Europe and of course was arrested when he made the big mistake of returning to Italy where the Vatican Grand Inquisitors were waiting for him. He was of course burned at the stake as a heretic which was the fate of anyone who had a brain and thought independently from the status quo of his time. I consider him a very bright thinker way ahead of his time and was on to something big that was way beyond the boundaries of the Christian doctrine. Who knows what he might have come up with had he been encouraged to continue his brainstorming?
The universe as a whole entity may be the “god” that every civilization has sought since the beginning of human existence. Primitive and simple life forms will begin to form naturally as the conditions become suitable to support life. From there they combine cells and cross breed with other species to create more advanced life forms while millions of species die off and become extinct. This is most likely a similar pattern that has been occurring since time without beginning but each producing it’s own unique evolution of species not necessarily like the ones we see on earth. Some of these planets contain highly evolved intelligent societies that have long past eliminated war and hatred from their civilization and all live lives thousands of years old and in total comfort and contentment. They could also be non-DNA spiritual beings. There would be and infinite number of these worlds of life each at a different level of advancement both spiritually and intellectually. Life I think has a natural universal path to development just as universally natural as dirt blowing in the wind or metal filings on a glass top table following a magnet being moved around on the bottom of the glass top. This medium of thinking would be one possibility for humanity moving beyond the theist ideology to a higher intellectually advanced way of worship and looking at life and the universe. This will give the individual freedom of thought and creating new ways of doing things that make life easier for future generations.

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Sorry, but I thought I mentioned clearly in the post regarding the "abiogenesis" video that it was a solid theory, based on observable and verifiable facts of biochemistry....(well, I didn't say ALL of that, but if you look to the video itself, you will see that author says as much).

Now.....the OP's point obviously wasn't to assert that any extraterrestrial influences occurred, here on this planet, ~4 billion years ago, at the dawn of life. So, the "abiogenesis" discussion in and of itself is moot.

Why I thought it needed to be included was to show that ALL the lifeforms on this planet share a commonality...regardless of outward external appearance, and body arrangement. The enzymes, and amino acids of the biochemistry is comparable for all. We have (as far as we've discovered) no lifeforms that use, say....silicon instead of carbon as a building block...but, I digress.

Getting back to the notion of "ET manipulation" or altering ... or even (dare I say it?) creation of our Human DNA and thus, genome? Altering/manipulation would be at least a possibility to consider...but, not the actual 'creation', as evidenced by the close resemblance to many other primates' DNA. The evidence of our chromosome #2 showing signs of being fused ---(what reason there? Ah, that's the rub!!)--- is compelling, as well....when compared to the Chimpanzee's #13. (If I recall, from the other video posted). Of course, the fusion of chromosomes might have been the (naturally occurring defect/mutation??) that set our branch of ancestors apart, and on our path to sentience. Archaeologists have found many examples, though, of hominids that pre-date us, yet exhibit a transition of sorts between Great Apes to us....in terms of style of locomotion.....bipedalism. More and more upright posture, freeing the hands over many generations, and various species....species that died out, in favor of others.

There is a LONG fossil record, with gaps, as would be expected. But, much can be inferred nevertheless.

SO....we are left with (possibly) a combination, as postulated by a few posts above. A species (homo-something...erectus?) or a precursor that was given a "nudge" of some sort....but, again a sticking point I find in that hypothesis is the timeline. Lineage of "modern" humans --- ones that, except for their lack of technology, would be otherwise indistinguishable from today's people --- are suggested to go back several hundreds of thousands of years. SO, any "ETs" didn't just 'snap' us into our present form in recent history.

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EDIT TO ADD - nothing. Actually, edited to remove a comment because I just can't be bothered with some of these conversations at the moment.

Enjoy the debate folks, I see you're in esteemed company.

reply to post by The GUT


Thank you for the kind words.
As far as my own experience involving any kind of "alien" connection,I will most likely try to address that in a separate thread down the road sometime.
For now as I have stated in this thread earlier,if you are interested in my personal thoughts relating to this subject check out the thread I authored a couple weeks ago,linked at the very bottom of this Op.
to get a better understanding for now,where I stand in my beliefs & theories.


I will try to respond and address to as many replies within this thread when I get the chance.I appreciate everyone's interest,thoughts and contribution so far.

Let us keep the vibe of constructive criticism and debate going,if nothing else,I believe there is something to be gained & learned through such communications with everyone involved.

Anything & everything is truly a possibility within this wonderful,strange world we find ourselves learning,experiencing and inhabiting presently.

Let us not forget the numerous once thought certainties through out our history & science that were turned upside down on their heads,latter proven to not be true.
It goes both ways,
Something seemingly impossible could very well end up being the actual truth that at one time was accepted without contention.
You just never know.

Nice thread op. Well put together. I just wanted to add a little about the '___'. I have "in my younger years" done my fair share of this substance. Believe me, if you were to dabble in small doses of lsd, then you would also have some very very life changing outlooks on life. It makes you come to your own conclusions on life. I just wanted to add that you cannot believe everything somebody says that was under the influence of '___'. I have talked to the crickets, if you know what I mean.

S&F for the time consuming effort of a thread.

Human science has advanced so much in DNA sourcing and manipulation, including breakthroughs of adding a third helix. It all feels so deja vu to me. Years of studying ancient summrian creation history has led me to conclude that all that is happening is a repeat of what transpired in the distant past. It has been proven that DNA has a kind of memory like a complex computer code and this explains why the human race continues to repeat the same mistakes ad infinitum.