UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator

Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator


so 7 miles south, crowne plaza in the left of the picture yes? and the dome which is only 1 and a half miles to the right is not in shot, how narrow is the camaras shooting angle??

Rex, not to put too finer a point on it, but as Deb said, I too think you are flogging a horse that is long dead!

The weather cam may or may not be in the right location to view the Dome, although what the weather cam manager said should indicate whether or not it does.

And even if it can see the Dome, the light that we have been talking about on the weather cam is NOT the UFO light over the Dome.

Are we happy about this yet....because this carcass is starting to smell!

edit on 7-2-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

edit on 7-2-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

edit on 7-2-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

I refer to my post earlier.

If you belive them quite a few saw the UFO light at 0:57.....but noone spotted it at 11:30, or 12, Or 1:30......It waether cam light most likely appeared more times than the 5 stated, but the video being compressed into 1 minute makes it difficult to pick up on the video.
So lets say as a conservative estimate that the light actually appeared 8 times.....and stayed on for at least 1 minute.
It's pretty unlikely that the light would only be spotted on the one occassion by the Dome UFO spotters.

Sorry but I'm not flogging this horse any further....it deserves to rest in peace!

edit on 7-2-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

No, you state that it is not the light over the dome, how do you know this? please explain, retract your claim, post evidence or stop telling me to stop, thank you

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator

No, you state that it is not the light over the dome, how do you know this? please explain, retract your claim, post evidence or stop telling me to stop, thank you

Rex have it your way.....the light spotted on the weathercam is indeed the same light spotted over the dome.
Anyone that applies logic can see that.

There are you satisfied!

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Good job, the lunatics continue to make fools of themselves. This hoax seems to attract the most unstable people screaming real lol.

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by Paradigm2012

 

So you think this dark mirrored image is of that hotel eh?

You are speaking about the Hotel Inbal.

Notice it is lit up every night and bright as any other well-lit landmark in Jerusalem should be.

Why is it so dark in where you say it is in the UFO clip?

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And why does it have two identical glowing mickey mouse ears in the UFO clip? There is plainly no such thing behind the hotel in the day or night pics of said hotel.

Would you also like to see that the hotel is nowhere near where you say it is in the UFO clip?

Or are you gunna come clean?

MM

LOL paradigm2012 what is your major malfunction? You are pwning yourself here it is a hoax get use to it. There will be many more hoaxes in your not so distant future for you to embrace as your holy grail of "real footage " lol. Doomcriers alike will continue to manufacture BS, Hoaxers more CGI videos of UFO's alike. Get real dude.



Good job again MASK

reply to post by Logical one


no I am not satisfied, if the weathercam has a viewing angle of 90% then it is highly unlikley that the dome is NOT in shot, if it happens to be over the dome then yes my attitude towards the whole thing will change, that is why until i am shown why it is not possible i am going to question it, I am still waiting for the evidence that proves this to be a hoax. can you provide it? can you prove all the videos are fake?? i am on the fence but i am waiting for conclusive evidence either way.

Rex, I'm not sure what else to say to you.

The person who placed the webcam / told someone where to put it, says the orientation of the camera. EVEN if you want to say this guy is lying, EVEN if you wanted to go there, just rattle this through your brain

How could the light appear to be relatively the same size, when the camera is 2x as farther away from the dome, than the people who filmed it in video 1 and 2.

A light also appears on december 22 or 23, basically like 1 centimeter lower than the light that we're talking about. OMG IT MUST BE THE SAME?

the webcam does not show the light, get over it please and debate about something else

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy

 

Good job, the lunatics continue to make fools of themselves. This hoax seems to attract the most unstable people screaming real lol.

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by Paradigm2012

 

So you think this dark mirrored image is of that hotel eh?

You are speaking about the Hotel Inbal.

Notice it is lit up every night and bright as any other well-lit landmark in Jerusalem should be.

Why is it so dark in where you say it is in the UFO clip?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/79b8beabb943.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/077ddba6b6a9.jpg[/atsimg]

And why does it have two identical glowing mickey mouse ears in the UFO clip? There is plainly no such thing behind the hotel in the day or night pics of said hotel.

Would you also like to see that the hotel is nowhere near where you say it is in the UFO clip?

Or are you gunna come clean?

MM

LOL paradigm2012 what is your major malfunction? You are pwning yourself here it is a hoax get use to it. There will be many more hoaxes in your not so distant future for you to embrace as your holy grail of "real footage " lol. Doomcriers alike will continue to manufacture BS, Hoaxers more CGI videos of UFO's alike. Get real dude.



Good job again MASK

in the gif the hotel is to the left, you can see it lit up, even the different coloured lights, and the via duct to thelower left of it which is also lit.

ps what is the orb in thesky on the twighlight shot?

reply to post by RexTheNavigator


The mirrored image is not the Inbal Hotel.

The Inbal hotel is not even located in that area AND it is brightly lit at all times of night.

Use googlemap and search "Dome of the rock" and then search "Inbal Hotel"

Or-
Go and search "Virtual Jerusalem" take a walk around the Old City. I know I did and its fun.

Or, you can continue to pretend you believe what you are saying you do for whatever reason you are.

MM

reply to post by DeboWilliams


why earlier on in the thread did I see newcomers being warned for hostility when it seems common prctice amongst its regulars?

no I will not trust the man who tells people what to do, for all i know he has never been to the cam site himself, he may never have even looked at the cam angle, I will however trust my eyes that tell me if that hotel is in shot then the dome must be, look at gilo in relation to the hotel the upt a 90 degree angle on the view (the cam could be 120 degrees idk?) then the dome has to be in shot, if not the cam has a viewing angle of 3 miles of horizon from 7 miles away???

does that make sense to you.

Take a walk in Jerusalem HERE

Tell the UFO I said hi.

MM

reply to post by RexTheNavigator


That looks like a reflection to me or a smudge in the photo, heck could even be a bug out of focus. Im guessing the blind believers will assume bugs are considered evidence? Nothing that hasn't happened before. That motel is NOT what is in the hoax footage, what is in the hoax footage is a mirrored image of a building "mickey ears" in case you might have missed it.

Originally posted by time2fly

Originally posted by soulfox
Has VID4 been debunked yet??

Yes, it has been debunked by multiple posters using scientific analysis. Being the most persuasive one of the 4, I finally believe myself that the case is closed.

The proof of it being a fake was based on the camera movement, the zooming and the double flash of the orb. I compared two before/during flash frames using pixel comparison myself, and noticed that absolutely no new elements (buildings, trees) in the picture are lit up by the flash, but only the brightness is increased in the center of the image, causing bright pixels (i.e. from lanterns) to become even brighter.

Is that really conclusive? I looked at a lot of lightning videos now and got mixed feelings about it. On some one can clearly see more new elements but on others not at all. It really depends where the lightning falls, how dark the background and how strong the lightning is. On some videos with multiple lightnings a very strong lightning shows less details than a less strong one, I think because of the sudden brightness and the camera not properly adjusting to it quickly enough.

reply to post by RexTheNavigator


A light appears to turn on in a city!?

No way.

You think it may be a UFO?

Or do you suppose lights turn on in cities all the time?

MM

reply to post by Mr Mask


its about 1km from old city, where did he claim it to be??

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by RexTheNavigator

 

That looks like a reflection to me or a smudge in the photo, heck could even be a bug out of focus. Im guessing the blind believers will assume bugs are considered evidence? Nothing that hasn't happened before. That motel is NOT what is in the hoax footage, what is in the hoax footage is a mirrored image of a building "mickey ears" in case you might have missed it.

The blue smudge is a reflection. It appears on all the pictures of that particular collection of pics of Jerusalem taken near dusk. I've seen so many pics of Jerusalem in the past week, I think I almost live there.

Good side is, I learned a lot about the culture, history and myths.

Did you know the windmill near that hotel was once lubricated by oil that the jews started enjoying the taste of? So they put a pig's leg in the oil vat to deter them from eating it.

Weird...but hey.

MM

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator
reply to post by DeboWilliams

 

why earlier on in the thread did I see newcomers being warned for hostility when it seems common prctice amongst its regulars?

no I will not trust the man who tells people what to do, for all i know he has never been to the cam site himself, he may never have even looked at the cam angle, I will however trust my eyes that tell me if that hotel is in shot then the dome must be, look at gilo in relation to the hotel the upt a 90 degree angle on the view (the cam could be 120 degrees idk?) then the dome has to be in shot, if not the cam has a viewing angle of 3 miles of horizon from 7 miles away???

does that make sense to you.

Ok so for a moment, lets throw all logic, all sensible reason, and all common sense out the window for a sec. Let's go ahead and assume that the weather man is in on it aswell

Your trying to tell me that the orb, from the webcams point of view, which is 7 miles away, would be the same size, from the video 1 and 2 filmers point of view?

Wait I forgot, we're throwing all logic out. So if I looked down from a airplane, a car would still look 15 feet long, who cares how far away from the object I am. I wonder why the sun doesnt block our entire view of the sky for that matter ................hmmmm

Yea.......ok..............

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

its about 1km from old city, where did he claim it to be??

Its actually a little over 2 kilometers to the Temple Mount itself.

Like I said, take a virtual walk there...its fun.

MM

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by RexTheNavigator

 

The mirrored image is not the Inbal Hotel.

The Inbal hotel is not even located in that area AND it is brightly lit at all times of night.

Use googlemap and search "Dome of the rock" and then search "Inbal Hotel"

Or-
Go and search "Virtual Jerusalem" take a walk around the Old City. I know I did and its fun.

Or, you can continue to pretend you believe what you are saying you do for whatever reason you are.

MM

edit on 7-2-2011 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)

It's not there?

reply to post by Mr Mask


no need for the sarcasm now
of course lights will come on and off but that light is different to the others it and you know it, fair enough it appears a few times that night but people have trailed through a years worth of footage and it has happened a handfull of times, is that not strange in itself if it is a light why would it need to be so powerfull if it is only going to be on for a few random minutes a year?

reply to post by DeboWilliams


are you telling me you see the orb the same size on the weather cam as you do on the videos

Originally posted by RexTheNavigator
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

no need for the sarcasm now

Frankly Rex, I think you well and truely deserved it tonight!

How do we know that light only comes on randomly a few times a year.

For all you know, it might be a newly installed light or even temporary light that has been put there at the end of January........keep watching that same weather cam for the next twelve months then you might get a better idea about how regular that light actually appears during the year.

For all we know the UFO dome guys looked throrugh the weathercam and purposely picked a day and time that coincided with the weathercam light to dupe peole like good self into believing that this was a genuine UFO.